Nogbad the Bad Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 53 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Bye bye Webby. You go with our best wishes and I hope you make a real go of it in the Prem. We thought Flinty was irreplaceable, and you showed us that it could be done - and in many ways could be done better! Anyway, kerching! and onwards and upwards. No need to compare with Flint really. Webster cost us 10x more than Flint, and we sold Flint for 20x what we paid for him, 'only' 6x in Webster's case. Flint gave City 5 very solid seasons ( including palpable achievement for the club) Webster just 1 season, albeit a superb one individually. Having said there's no reason to compare them, there I am doing it - but for me it feels like Webster knew he was never going to be here too long if he could prove his fitness over a season, whereas Flint gave his all for 5. It almost seems like we had Webster on loan for a year and he's returned to his parent club, except for the whacking great profit! Anyway, as you say, 'kerching, onwards and upwards', and hopefully another great replacement on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 He has just tweeted An absolute dream come true to sign for @OfficialBHAFC cannot wait to get started was his dream to play for Brighton, hopefully their is at least at acknowledgement later In the day for city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Red Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 It's a pity we could not have sold Webster at the start of the transfer window and then kept Lloyd Kelly to be his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: He has just tweeted An absolute dream come true to sign for @OfficialBHAFC cannot wait to get started was his dream to play for Brighton, hopefully their is at least at acknowledgement later In the day for city He's already said how much he loved coming to City on Brighton's official site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: He has just tweeted An absolute dream come true to sign for @OfficialBHAFC cannot wait to get started was his dream to play for Brighton, hopefully their is at least at acknowledgement later In the day for city You mean like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Players come and players go. Thanks Adam and best wishes. Onwards and upwards so COYREDS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, stephenkibby. said: He's already said how much he loved coming to City on Brighton's official site. Ah didn’t see that fair enough, I’m not that fussed but just thought the tweet would have included an acknowledgment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: He has just tweeted An absolute dream come true to sign for @OfficialBHAFC cannot wait to get started was his dream to play for Brighton, hopefully their is at least at acknowledgement later In the day for city Footballers have some weird dreams. 8 of them dreamed of unemployment and uncertain futures if Section82 are to be believed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Bring on Alexander Milosevic from Forest. As good but would cost a tenth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannybluff Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Those saying we are weaker than we were in May... we now have kalas and dasilva signed up. They weren't ours in May. So we have a stronger squad 5gat is ours... and although not necessarily a stronger team as of yet it shows we are making progress. Think I'd personally rather have kalas and dasilva than Webster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: Imagine smashing your transfer fee record and still feeling disheartened by the summer activity. We are weaker than back in May. Trying to be positive but struggling. Disagree. We had players that were here on loan and they would have been leaving, so in reality at the end of the season we were very weak because those loans were not on our books. We have signed Dasilva, Palmer and Kalas for a record fee (and all for less than Kelly who wasn't even a first team starter). We have got Szmodic in, and a decent keeper who could be a longterm player for us. Yes we have just sold probably our best player but for the fee we got after just one season it really is terrific business. We still have Baker and if he is fit and consistent he is a very, very good Championship defender. We also have Wright, Taylor Moore and Vyner as back up and expect Taylor Moore will soon get given a chance (or what is the point). We have to accept we will sell players at a huge profit if it is available, and there is certainly no guarantee by keeping them we would make the promised land. We have to become a sustainable club and doing business as we currently are is the only way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: You mean like this? or indeed this: can't beat that really! Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Footballers have some weird dreams. 8 of them dreamed of unemployment and uncertain futures if Section82 are to be believed! He was brought up on the South Coast so maybe was his boyhood team. Better that than Manure for a Hampshire/West Sussex boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Can tell it much it means for him to go back to living the area, judging by his and his fiancées social media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Red Exile said: or indeed this: can't beat that really! Good luck to him. Top top guy, he goes with my best wishes and I look forward to seeing him on the box and hopefully one day playing for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 I really don't get the point others make about being 'stronger' because transfers become permanent cf temporary. They're yours to use for the period of contract. Most clubs who've successfully breached the gap to the top have done so taking superior players they couldn't afford to buy, but for whom they splashed cash on wages. I'd argue that at the top end of the Championship that's probably the only way non-parachute clubs can conpete, though interesting to see how the loan change rules will impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, BTRFTG said: I really don't get the point others make about being 'stronger' because transfers become permanent cf temporary. They're yours to use for the period of contract. Most clubs who've successfully breached the gap to the top have done so taking superior players they couldn't afford to buy, but for whom they splashed cash on wages. I'd argue that at the top end of the Championship that's probably the only way non-parachute clubs can conpete, though interesting to see how the loan change rules will impact? We are weaker. People can try and dress it up as they like. We've lost our best player and taken a gamble on a lower league player( I actually think it will pay off). Fingers crossed I won't be saying the same thing next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 It's a pity to lose such a strong defender,especially considering the connection he found with Kalas: let's hope in another clever move by the club,like it happened with Flint-Webster. Good luck to Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Good luck Webo. Disappointed of course but he was a stalwart for us last season. I think he’ll do great next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: I really don't get the point others make about being 'stronger' because transfers become permanent cf temporary. They're yours to use for the period of contract. Most clubs who've successfully breached the gap to the top have done so taking superior players they couldn't afford to buy, but for whom they splashed cash on wages. I'd argue that at the top end of the Championship that's probably the only way non-parachute clubs can conpete, though interesting to see how the loan change rules will impact? If you’re a consultant working for a company, you never truly ‘belong’, you don’t put down roots - you’re a specialist brought in to do a job for a limited period. It can make a consultant a bit of a mercenary. It’s akin to a footballer being on loan. Becoming a permanent employee makes you far more integral - changing your attitude towards the company and the company’s towards you. Signing our former loanees will, I believe, help them feel part of the long term strategy of the club. It’ll also help in making us far more attractive to other prospective Prem loanees whether from Chelsea eg Hector, or other clubs eg Nketiah. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Absolutely sensational transfer for City, Ipswich and of course Adam Webster; not so sure it's a sensational transfer for Brighton, he may well flop in the Prem League - doubtful, but you never know. I salute all parties involved in the sale of Webster and think the money we have received is awesome. Just think how well we will now invest that money. I may be thinking rather simplistically, but this should mean the star striker we need can now be financed. I would do whatever it takes now to sign Dwight Gayle, a guarantee of at least 20 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Becoming a permanent employee Save none are 'permanent employees' - BCFC are not John Lewis Partnership. Players remain akin consultants for as long as their contracts last, rarely greater than 4 seasons. How then do you explain players like 'the mock mick' who's still under contract yet doesn't believe himself to be 'valued' as an employee given he's tried every trick in the book to get away, as did Maynard, as did.....(insert name here?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 You have to feel for LJ. Last season he lost 3 of his best players. Did a brilliant job signing Webster and loses him a day before the season starts. It's all very well having money to spend. We got it right with Webster but there are no guarantees that we can keep doing so. Puts a lot of pressure on LJ to roll the dice again and come up with another hit. We've signed a few duds and some gems. Just hope we get it right this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, harvey54 said: Man City lose the charity shield and sack Guardiola. Approach made to City for Little Lee and £100 million compensation package negotiated I’d be happy with a straight swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BTRFTG said: We're a selling club and until such time as we conceivably might compete to reach the top flight (not anytime soon IMHO) that's what we'll remain. Webster and Kelly deals too good to turn down for a club shipping £20m and upwards a year. My gripe is yet again under WeeLee this happens the day the season starts. Where's the longer term succession planning? Another close season where fans know we need a minimum two strikers, plus holding and creative midfielder yet the management focus on keepers and development opportunities that rarely materialize. Spent big money on decent players for our level, but only to retain what we had last year where we didn't exactly set the league alight. I really hope we start like a house on fire such we might attract some decent loanees as should the wheels come off first two games i dread to think how this season might go? I know little of Sammy S but who else is going to 'step-up'? Ah, the “selling club” accusation. Please tell me who isn’t a “selling club” when a huge offer for a player comes in from a team in a higher division capable of paying higher wages and the player wants to leave? We’re a club that’s just made a £15m-odd profit on a player in 12 months, having sold our better players the previous season and yet still continued our upward trajectory with a fifth season of consecutive improvement. That proves we are currently making shrewd business decisions. The timing isn’t ideal, but we don’t have complete control over that, and with the transfer window still open and money in our pocket, I’m willing to give Johnson and Ashton the benefit of the doubt right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: When will we see a footballer with a working brain thinking long term underatanding he is on astronomic money as it is The minute they don't have agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BCFC Grim said: We are weaker. People can try and dress it up as they like. We've lost our best player and taken a gamble on a lower league player( I actually think it will pay off). Fingers crossed I won't be saying the same thing next week. How about we wait and see if we are weaker once we have spent the money yea? I didn't know that the transfer window closed straight after Webster signed for Brighton. Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: Save none are 'permanent employees' - BCFC are not John Lewis Partnership. Players remain akin consultants for as long as their contracts last, rarely greater than 4 seasons. How then do you explain players like 'the mock mick' who's still under contract yet doesn't believe himself to be 'valued' as an employee given he's tried every trick in the book to get away, as did Maynard, as did.....(insert name here?) It’s not a perfect analogy. As you well know, football doesn’t conform with the conventions of any other business but you’ll no doubt understand the comparison I made. Palmer, for instance now knows where he and is family are likely to live for more than nine months. He’ll be able to come home from work every night to see his little boy which will settle them all. They can plan schools and become part of their community. That’s got to be good and help him play better on the field? Regarding O’Dowda he’s effectively handed in his notice but until he leaves he’s our asset and we have to sweat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Regarding O’Dowda he’s effectively handed in his notice but until he leaves he’s our asset and we have to sweat it. What, he'll be flipping burgers in the fan zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Up The City! said: How about we wait and see if we are weaker once we have spent the money yea? I didn't know that the transfer window closed straight after Webster signed for Brighton. Geez. How about you read my post properly? I said fingers crossed we arnt weaker in a weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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