Robin Wood Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Chris Martin has been a fantastic signing a real upgrade to Fammy has a football brain which Fam lacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Not to mention boots that don't have \trampolines built into them Been absolutely key to our success so far, just hope he can stay fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, Robin Wood said: Chris Martin has been a fantastic signing a real upgrade to Fammy has a football brain which Fam lacks And a few more....a pity Patterson didn't have the same vision that Martin has to slip the ball across to Semenyo for a nailed on 3rd near the end. Some players have it, most don't ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Went off injured yesterday though. Hope he’s fit for Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Went off injured yesterday though. Hope he’s fit for Tuesday It looked like an impact injury so I hope it was just a precaution with a nod to Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Robin Wood said: Chris Martin has been a fantastic signing a real upgrade to Fammy has a football brain which Fam lacks Martin has been a great signing for sure but why is it people always seem to feel the need to criticise one player in order to praise another? Fam's done a good job for us over the last couple of seasons and, with two games a week, is still going to have an important role to play as players fatigue or pick up niggles. And he's fought his way back into the team enough times for it to be daft to write him off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Yep.....Martin has been a good signing but it’s a fact in the world of football that someone skips down the pecking order when a new signing comes in and unfortunately for Fam he’s made way for CM. Up to then Fam had no real competition at CF. It’s now up to Fam to convince Deano that he should be starting games by impressing more in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, bemmyredjeff said: And a few more....a pity Patterson didn't have the same vision that Martin has to slip the ball across to Semenyo for a nailed on 3rd near the end. Some players have it, most don't ! Don't you mean Semmenyo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, JonDolman said: Bloody good player aint he. Wells place under threat by Semenyo and not Martin's at the moment for me. I'm struggling to imagine Semenyo scoring double figures in a month of Sundays, quite frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, JonDolman said: He's looked like scoring every time he's been on the pitch this season. Even against Villa they struggled to cope with him and we were otherwise by far the worse side. Exactly what we’ve been missing up front. Doesn’t need to be quick, has positional intelligence and fantastic awareness of others. The Derby YouTube clips pre-signing of all of his assists showed us that. He will get his Diedhiou-dozen (that’s 13 ) plus already has as many assists (4) as Fam managed in his best season (18/19)....and that’s not counting the one v Forest that he didn’t get the credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted October 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: Martin has been a great signing for sure but why is it people always seem to feel the need to criticise one player in order to praise another? Fam's done a good job for us over the last couple of seasons and, with two games a week, is still going to have an important role to play as players fatigue or pick up niggles. And he's fought his way back into the team enough times for it to be daft to write him off yet. Chris Martin creates so many chances in the opposition box where all I hear about Fam is about how good he is at defending corners he's a bloody striker not a defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, CiderCraig said: Don't you mean Semmenyo? You seem to make a habit of righting a wrong...bit of a wasted exercise on a forum like this. I apologise for not being a perfectionist like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Robin Wood said: Chris Martin creates so many chances in the opposition box where all I hear about Fam is about how good he is at defending corners he's a bloody striker not a defender I don’t give a rat’s arse about what I hear about Fam. I’ve seen him more than enough times in three years to know there is way more to his game than that. Don’t get me wrong - Martin is a superb signing and is central to our play and there is no doubt Fam has started the season slowly but Fam deserved the player of the season award last year and there were several times when he was the one bright spot in sure team performances. We look a very different team this year in both style and quality. Martin currently appears a way better fit for that than Fam does but it doesn’t change the fact it is easy to praise Martin without aiming unnecessary digs at someone who has rarely let us down in three years at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, bemmyredjeff said: You seem to make a habit of righting a wrong...bit of a wasted exercise on a forum like this. I apologise for not being a perfectionist like you. I understand what you're saying but also I can see where the poster who corrected you is coming from. You're both alright by me so let's just let bygones be bygones eh? I respect you for apologising though, it's quite refreshing and shows a certain level of maturity. Just for the record I think it's fairly important to spell players' names correctly as they do read this forum and might get upset or angry if they see their name misspelled. I'm not going to say it would influence their game but it certainly won't boost their morale. Genuinely I'm not picking sides here, just giving some food for thought. Back on topic, big fan of Chris Martin. Fantastic player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Until he played for us, I didn't appreciate how good he is. I never really notice opposition players unless it's someone really well known like Grealish. Derby must have really been cash strapped to only offer him a one year contract. I think the comparison to Sheringham others have made is a good one. His game is about technical ability, vision, strength, and guile rather than pace so injuries permitting I think he has at least a few years at this level in him. Perfect signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 To be fair to Fammy, at least he puts the ball in the net sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 hours ago, CiderCraig said: Don't you mean Semmenyo? No he doesn't it is Semenyo, put his name in your search engine, you owe him an apology as it's you in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, The dastardly red said: I understand what you're saying but also I can see where the poster who corrected you is coming from. You're both alright by me so let's just let bygones be bygones eh? I respect you for apologising though, it's quite refreshing and shows a certain level of maturity. Just for the record I think it's fairly important to spell players' names correctly as they do read this forum and might get upset or angry if they see their name misspelled. I'm not going to say it would influence their game but it certainly won't boost their morale. Genuinely I'm not picking sides here, just giving some food for thought. Back on topic, big fan of Chris Martin. Fantastic player. The poster who corrected him was the one in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 hours ago, The dastardly red said: Just for the record I think it's fairly important to spell players' names correctly as they do read this forum and might get upset or angry if they see their name misspelled. Bloody snowflakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, pillred said: No he doesn't it is Semenyo, put his name in your search engine, you owe him an apology as it's you in the wrong. Think you’ve missed the point...check out how the poster spelt Paterson! Thought it was a pretty funny way to call out a spelling mistake personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, pillred said: No he doesn't it is Semenyo, put his name in your search engine, you owe him an apology as it's you in the wrong. 5 hours ago, pillred said: The poster who corrected him was the one in the wrong. @pillredI'm afraid it's you who's wrong and have had a bit of a 'whoosh' moment. I know how to spell Semenyo, thank you. I also know that there's one T in Patterson, which was the point of the post. As @The dastardly redrealised where I was coming from, I know it's not the end of the world, but it seems strange that our fans don't know our player's names. Indeed, let bygones be bygones. No hard feelings @bemmyredjeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, CiderCraig said: I also know that there's one T in Patterson No, there’s two t’s in Patterson but only one in Paterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: No, there’s two t’s in Patterson but only one in Paterson. Ttitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: No, there’s two t’s in Patterson but only one in Paterson. Can we all at least agree there is only one F in Alfie Mawson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Davefevs said: Exactly what we’ve been missing up front. Doesn’t need to be quick, has positional intelligence and fantastic awareness of others. The Derby YouTube clips pre-signing of all of his assists showed us that. He will get his Diedhiou-dozen (that’s 13 ) plus already has as many assists (4) as Fam managed in his best season (18/19)....and that’s not counting the one v Forest that he didn’t get the credit for. @Son of Fred can I ask why the “confused” emoji? Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Son of Fred can I ask why the “confused” emoji? Ta. Because JonDolman was talking about Semenyo, Dave ("He's looked like scoring every time he's been on the pitch this season. Even against Villa they struggled to cope with him and we were otherwise by far the worse side" - which was a reply to my comment saying I can't imagine Semenyo scoring double figure goals in a month of Sundays) whereas - correct me if I'm wrong - I think in your reply to JonDolman you're talking about Chris Martin ("Exactly what we’ve been missing up front. Doesn’t need to be quick, has positional intelligence and fantastic awareness of others. The Derby YouTube clips pre-signing of all of his assists showed us that. He will get his Diedhiou-dozen (that’s 13 ) plus already has as many assists (4) as Fam managed in his best season (18/19)....and that’s not counting the one v Forest that he didn’t get the credit for") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Because JonDolman was talking about Semenyo, Dave ("He's looked like scoring every time he's been on the pitch this season. Even against Villa they struggled to cope with him and we were otherwise by far the worse side" - which was a reply to my comment saying I can't imagine Semenyo scoring double figure goals in a month of Sundays) whereas - correct me if I'm wrong - I think in your reply to JonDolman you're talking about Chris Martin ("Exactly what we’ve been missing up front. Doesn’t need to be quick, has positional intelligence and fantastic awareness of others. The Derby YouTube clips pre-signing of all of his assists showed us that. He will get his Diedhiou-dozen (that’s 13 ) plus already has as many assists (4) as Fam managed in his best season (18/19)....and that’s not counting the one v Forest that he didn’t get the credit for") @Son of Fred ahhhh, now I see. Thanks MM, makes perfect sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 16 hours ago, JonDolman said: He's looked like scoring every time he's been on the pitch this season. Even against Villa they struggled to cope with him and we were otherwise by far the worse side. He might have "looked like" scoring, Jon, but he hasn't has he? Whereas Wells has looked a threat in every game and has hit the back of the net - decisive goals, in the Championship, away from home compared to Semenyo's admittedly nice finish at home, in the league cup, against a Fourth Division team. Furthermore, in the Villa game, Semenyo did hhave a good chance - and failed to even hit the target with a poor effort reminiscent of a parks player which highlighted just how raw he still is. At the moment, there's simply no comparison between Wells and Semenyo, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Wells has missed loads of very good chances. Semenyo only really missed one very good chance. I think the main thing is Semenyo offers a lot more in other areas. Wells has to link up better than he is. And also not miss so many chances. He should not be an automatic choice no matter what. No doubt Semenyo will get more starts and I think he could give Holden something to think about when he does. I certainly agree Wells' hold up play can be inconsistent - perhaps one of the reasons he hasn't made it in the Premier League. But he's still a proven Championship striker who we can be reasonably confident will get us 15 goals this season. Personally, I wouldn't be confident, at all, about Semenyo getting near that figure at this stage of his career, if he was given the same amount of game time. For that reason, and because we appear to have serious top 6 aspirations, there's no competition for me between Wells and Semenyo. If anything, Weimann is the competition for Wells with Semenyo left to do his own thing without too much pressure, grow his game, make the most of the sub appearances he's given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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