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7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

It’s the ‘we don’t know the circumstances’ and ‘it’s a complex issue’ comments that I have a problem with. People are quick to say things like this in cases of men beating up women but won’t excuse other crimes.  It gives the indication that it’s not that serious a crime 

100%. Plus, he did get convicted. Others do know the circumstances, and looked into the complex issues. And concluded that he was guilty.

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9 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

He was found guilty of assault so we can judge.  And the circumstances are his then partner didn’t deserve to be assaulted. 

If his partner has made piece with it, and they appear to be together again does it change your opinion at all?

Especially if he’s done some Form of counselling, anger management or other corrective process?

The “NP knows all the facts” comment makes me think there’s more here than the papers told us - and the papers will Happily tear someone down but not necessarily report on their rehabilitation.

I don’t condone what he did, and given the questionable necessity of this signing it’s probably a controversy I’d have preferred we’d stayed away from but people do change. Theirs arguably worse people who have been accepted back into football

 

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Women’s Aid have removed the club from the Football against domestic violence campaign, which we originally signed up to with a great fanfare.

Really poor decision by the club.

I would like to know if the Board even discussed this issue.  If they didn’t this is very remiss of them; if they did it is a reprehensible decision.

The club is losing bit by bit its historical identity.

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10 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Women’s Aid have removed the club from the Football against domestic violence campaign, which we originally signed up to with a great fanfare.

Really poor decision by the club.

I would like to know if the Board even discussed this issue.  If they didn’t this is very remiss of them; if they did it is a reprehensible decision.

The club is losing bit by bit its historical identity.

It’s extremely poor PR for the club to have Women’s Aid remove the club from their fanfare. Would like the club to use this signing as a positive, maybe Simpson could do some form of publicity to condemn domestic violence. I would imagine Simpson will be here next season.

Seems strange that part of our recruitment process for a manager was based on him being a good human and less than 12 months later we sign a player whose been convicted of domestic abuse. 

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

Those that say he has served his time so it’s fine, I assume would think the same if we signed a convicted rapist or peadophile who had served their time

Domestic abuse is not a complex issue as some have said. It’s a straightforward one. Don’t beat up your wife/husband/partner 

Your ignorance on the subject is astounding.

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16 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

If his partner has made piece with it, and they appear to be together again does it change your opinion at all?

Especially if he’s done some Form of counselling, anger management or other corrective process?

The “NP knows all the facts” comment makes me think there’s more here than the papers told us - and the papers will Happily tear someone down but not necessarily report on their rehabilitation.

I don’t condone what he did, and given the questionable necessity of this signing it’s probably a controversy I’d have preferred we’d stayed away from but people do change. Theirs arguably worse people who have been accepted back into football

 

No. To me, it makes no difference if his partner is at peace with it.

What it teaches is that you can commit DV, try to evade your punishment, show no remorse and then still remain with your partner and get a high-profile job.

Doesn’t seem right to me and sends the wrong message out.

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16 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

If his partner has made piece with it, and they appear to be together again does it change your opinion at all?

Especially if he’s done some Form of counselling, anger management or other corrective process?

The “NP knows all the facts” comment makes me think there’s more here than the papers told us - and the papers will Happily tear someone down but not necessarily report on their rehabilitation.

I don’t condone what he did, and given the questionable necessity of this signing it’s probably a controversy I’d have preferred we’d stayed away from but people do change. Theirs arguably worse people who have been accepted back into football

 

Whether other clubs have signed other convicted players isn’t relevant to me. It’s a simple one in my opinion. I don’t want my club signing players who have been convicted of domestic abuse, rape or murder.  I wouldn’t employ such a person or have such a person as a friend either. 

There are no caveats for me. 

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I really don't want to trivialise a very serious issue which I do happen to have a decent knowledge of tbf but so many MEN talking so much shit right now it’s embarrassing. “The club losing it’s historical identity” what the absolute **** is that steaming hot pile of shit statement all about?

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2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I really don't want to trivialise a very serious issue which I do happen to have a decent knowledge of tbf but so many MEN talking so much shit right now it’s embarrassing. “The club losing it’s historical identity” what the absolute **** is that steaming hot pile of shit statement all about?

Even as a fan I don't know what our historical identity is! 😂

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4 minutes ago, Rich_s said:

Bloke sounds like a complete bellend. Part of me says everyone should have a second chance and the other part of me thinks his second chance should be elsewhere.

Sort of where I am also.

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11 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Whether other clubs have signed other convicted players isn’t relevant to me. It’s a simple one in my opinion. I don’t want my club signing players who have been convicted of domestic abuse, rape or murder.  I wouldn’t employ such a person or have such a person as a friend either. 

There are no caveats for me. 

I noticed you reacted to my reply. To claim that domestic abuse is not complex shows a significant lack of knowledge around the subject. I won’t bore you with paragraphs of the stuff but for starters knocking your other half around is only one of MANY methods of control used by perpetrators.

It’s very simple to say don’t knock your missus black and blue, simples. Of course very correct but if only it was that simple. Another comment you hear is “the Partner should leave, simples”. You could write dozens of books on:

1) Why leaving is not as simple as it sounds

2) Why abused people have a hugely higher probability of stumbling into further abusive relationships

Simple it certainly isn’t. Btw, out of interest, woman on woman abuse in Lesbian relationships either is or certainly was the relationship type with statistically the highest levels of abuse.......

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41 minutes ago, italian dave said:

I’m really uncomfortable about this for all the reasons others have said.

As well as being an abuser he also just seems like a bit of a knob. Turns up at a charity shop to do his community service in a Lamborghini, and then moans about people taking pictures. Gets into very public social media spats with other mouthy footballers.

And slightly worrying that he was part of a Leicester side that made headlines for their off field activities generally, including allegations of racist abuse of sex workers on trip to Thailand. (He wasn’t part of that trip, but only because of his DA case going on at the time)

Which brings me to my other concern that hasn’t really been mentioned; we are very clear as a club that it’s our academy players, our young players, that are our future. I’m not sure that I want them coming through their introduction to first team squads and football being influenced by the idea that successful footballers are like this guy seems to be. We might joke about the whole DNA thing, but it’s not without merit.

Yes, he might be a reformed character. Regretful of what he’s done. But there’s not much evidence of it out there, and would it be hard for him to say?

Is he supposed to go out and buy another car to do community service in ?

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19 minutes ago, italian dave said:

And slightly worrying that he was part of a Leicester side that made headlines for their off field activities generally, including allegations of racist abuse of sex workers on trip to Thailand. (He wasn’t part of that trip, but only because of his DA case going on at the time)

 

Wow....and here’s my problem and the danger with some people/comments on here. 

You have dragged up and included an ‘alleged’ incident that he was absolutely not part of yet have associated him, some might say smeared, just because he was playing for Leicester at the time. 

The bloke was a knob for what he DID do but should not be further chastised for association in an event he clearly was not.

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15 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Even as a fan I don't know what our historical identity is! 😂

I’m more interested in our playing identity, no idea what that is / was 🤣🤣🤣

12 minutes ago, Rich_s said:

Bloke sounds like a complete bellend. Part of me says everyone should have a second chance and the other part of me thinks his second chance should be elsewhere.

Imho, bloke sounded like a complete bellend over this at the time / afterwards.  Whether he’s learned from his mistake and no longer acts like a bellend I don’t know.

I kinda like your second sentence.

3 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said:

Is he supposed to go out and buy another car to do community service in ?

Imagine he’d turned up in a Lada (sorry OTIB Lada drivers), they’d all accuse him of taking the piss wouldn’t they.

 

Overall, really delicate subject.

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6 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

Wow....and here’s my problem and the danger with some people/comments on here. 

You have dragged up and included an ‘alleged’ incident that he was absolutely not part of yet have associated him, some might say smeared, just because he was playing for Leicester at the time. 

The bloke was a knob for what he DID do but should not be further chastised for association in an event he clearly was not.

I very explicitly acknowledged that he was not on that trip. Deliberately.

But the point I was trying to make in my post was about a club’s ‘DNA’, for want of a better word. And it is relevant to that.

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24 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Even as a fan I don't know what our historical identity is! 😂

I'm sick of reading all the identity, DNA , not at my club rubbish! You'd think we were Barcelona or Manchester United.. 

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3 hours ago, Prinny said:

When the fun stops, stop. Supporting Danny Simpson, isn't fun for me. I won't get entertainment from cheering on a convicted abuser.

Therefore there's no point in me investing time and money and emotional capital into an entertainment company that no longer entertains.

I will not be following City anymore.

@Davefevs, @Septic Peg, @havanatopia, over to you on match days again.....

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16 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I noticed you reacted to my reply. To claim that domestic abuse is not complex shows a significant lack of knowledge around the subject. I won’t bore you with paragraphs of the stuff but for starters knocking your other half around is only one of MANY methods of control used by perpetrators.

It’s very simple to say don’t knock your missus black and blue, simples. Of course very correct but if only it was that simple. Another comment you hear is “the Partner should leave, simples”. You could write dozens of books on:

1) Why leaving is not as simple as it sounds

2) Why abused people have a hugely higher probability of stumbling into further abusive relationships

Simple it certainly isn’t. Btw, out of interest, woman on woman abuse in Lesbian relationships either is or certainly was the relationship type with statistically the highest levels of abuse.......

Think we are talking at crossed purposes. I agree with everything you say on this reply.  

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28 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I’m more interested in our playing identity, no idea what that is / was 🤣🤣🤣

Imho, bloke sounded like a complete bellend over this at the time / afterwards.  Whether he’s learned from his mistake and no longer acts like a bellend I don’t know.

I kinda like your second sentence.

Imagine he’d turned up in a Lada (sorry OTIB Lada drivers), they’d all accuse him of taking the piss wouldn’t they.

 

Overall, really delicate subject.

Very delicate subject but as the women involved has come out and said he should be judged as a person he is now and not 6 years ago he deserves a chance 

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13 hours ago, Bobbie said:

I wonder if you’d be saying that if he slapped up your daughter 

Typical of someone posting without the facts. I’m certainly not condoning domestic abuse but now the woman involved has come out to support DS on social media & say the press lied about the incident , are you going to change your opinion ? 

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3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Typical of someone posting without the facts. I’m certainly not condoning domestic abuse but now the woman involved has come out to support DS on social media & say the press lied about the incident , are you going to change your opinion ? 

Tbf the prosecution was brought by the police who witnessed it happening. 

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6 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Typical of someone posting without the facts. I’m certainly not condoning domestic abuse but now the woman involved has come out to support DS on social media & say the press lied about the incident , are you going to change your opinion ? 

She says the press lies but then also posted stuff like the below. Something doesn’t quite add up

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