Shtanley Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 A bit of both you'd probably all say, like myself. @petehintonand @Davefevs join me this time around. LISTEN HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 More of the latter imo, but sometimes you have to paper over a crack whilst you figure out a long term fix. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 You often end a run like this, a scrappy result. It does feel like we can’t get excited yet….not a performance to say “we’ve turned the corner”. On the flip a team who say get 5 or 6 clean sheets in succession often concede 3 or 4 when that run breaks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 We shouldn't be as be as bad as we are considering the resources available so there is definite hope. The superb "Alamo" type defending at the end and the crowds involvement in that will help no end I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) It was scrappy. Barnsley had better shape, but we still created chances and could’ve had 3. I don’t know, I understand who we are and hope to finish between 12-15. As long as we stay up this year I would be happy. I didn’t expect us to play great football or dominate teams this year. I expect it will take a couple of transfer windows (assuming we have funds!) to begin to sort this out. I think it’s going to become quite boring listening to the same narrative of whether we win, lose or draw, “but we’re not very good are we?” No shit, I ******* know that. Heres another newsflash, due to the cluster **** created by Steve and Mark, it ain’t going to be very good for a while and I don’t believe another coach somehow polishes the turd. Lets just dig in, support the team and just try to manufacture some points here and there, like we have done to this point. Edited October 31, 2021 by 054123 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I don't think Nige would let anyone get carried away… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 We have 3 points ....monkey or cracks are irrelevant now that the game has passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I've come to the conclusion that we're good enough not to go down and this season that's all I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, MelksRed said: We have 3 points ....monkey or cracks are irrelevant now that the game has passed. A monkey’s crack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Our team is surely talented enough for mid table, so I would suggest that much of our current problems are lack of confidence and fear. Consequently, I’m voting more for monkey off our backs, although it all rather depends on whatever happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 If we had played well and won then not many would be praising the performance. Might listen to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Monkeys on crack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: You often end a run like this, a scrappy result. It does feel like we can’t get excited yet….not a performance to say “we’ve turned the corner”. On the flip a team who say get 5 or 6 clean sheets in succession often concede 3 or 4 when that run breaks. I've taken some time to let the win settle in, and have reflected on it today. Honestly it just reminds me ever so much of the Huddersfield home game towards the end of Holden's time, in January 2021. We'd lost 5 of the previous 7, including losses to Rotherham, Luton, and the limp 2-0 away loss to Norwich. Huddersfield laid siege to our goal, 27 shots to our 4. xG of 2.6 to our 0.5. It was a brutal watch and we won thanks to a quickfire first half brace from our striker (Diedhiou in that case). Huddersfield hit the woodwork several times, and we rode our luck, just as we did yesterday. At the time there was jubilation from some, and claims of a dramatic corner being turned. I counseled caution and restraint, as the win had been very poor. We then lost our next 5 games, and Holden went. I get that I'm being a slight party-pooper in this post, and I am not saying that I think or hope we will repeat that 5 game streak. I'm not even saying the games themselves were similar. However the context, the reactions, and the general themes are similar. Hence I feel there are more cracks being papered than corners turned. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Let's see what happens at Brum......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 9 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: I don't think Nige would let anyone get carried away… So the monkey stays ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: So the monkey stays ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 7 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: I've taken some time to let the win settle in, and have reflected on it today. Honestly it just reminds me ever so much of the Huddersfield home game towards the end of Holden's time, in January 2021. We'd lost 5 of the previous 7, including losses to Rotherham, Luton, and the limp 2-0 away loss to Norwich. Huddersfield laid siege to our goal, 27 shots to our 4. xG of 2.6 to our 0.5. It was a brutal watch and we won thanks to a quickfire first half brace from our striker (Diedhiou in that case). Huddersfield hit the woodwork several times, and we rode our luck, just as we did yesterday. At the time there was jubilation from some, and claims of a dramatic corner being turned. I counseled caution and restraint, as the win had been very poor. We then lost our next 5 games, and Holden went. I get that I'm being a slight party-pooper in this post, and I am not saying that I think or hope we will repeat that 5 game streak. I'm not even saying the games themselves were similar. However the context, the reactions, and the general themes are similar. Hence I feel there are more cracks being papered than corners turned. It’s not the same situation, we’d lost two games against two of the three best teams in the league and should have beaten Forest had we not suffered from our psychological issues at home. I don’t expect another losing run for a while now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Shtanley said: A bit of both you'd probably all say, like myself. @petehintonand @Davefevs join me this time around. LISTEN HERE I would like to think positively and see at it is a massive monkey off of our back.I thought I was a pessimist until I started posting on here Let's enjoy the win at least until tomorrow night. Then a defeat will bring the usual Pearson out brigade back on the forum. They are noticeably absent as we won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Bit of both I reckon. City were pretty average and no better than that. How matey missed at the end I have no idea and that would be yet more points dropped late on. However, the support / noise was brilliant on Saturday and that has to be a massive positive and must've helped the team dig out a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 It's good that for now the option of sack is off the table, and we are just left with back or crack. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 9 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: At the time there was jubilation from some, and claims of a dramatic corner being turned. I counseled caution and restraint, as the win had been very poor. Kalas was furious and said something like we can't go on playing like this. The kind of thing the manager should have been saying. At least Nige was honest about our performance. You can't fix a problem if you don't admit you have one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Are We papering over the monkey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 9 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: I've taken some time to let the win settle in, and have reflected on it today. Honestly it just reminds me ever so much of the Huddersfield home game towards the end of Holden's time, in January 2021. We'd lost 5 of the previous 7, including losses to Rotherham, Luton, and the limp 2-0 away loss to Norwich. Huddersfield laid siege to our goal, 27 shots to our 4. xG of 2.6 to our 0.5. It was a brutal watch and we won thanks to a quickfire first half brace from our striker (Diedhiou in that case). Huddersfield hit the woodwork several times, and we rode our luck, just as we did yesterday. At the time there was jubilation from some, and claims of a dramatic corner being turned. I counseled caution and restraint, as the win had been very poor. We then lost our next 5 games, and Holden went. I get that I'm being a slight party-pooper in this post, and I am not saying that I think or hope we will repeat that 5 game streak. I'm not even saying the games themselves were similar. However the context, the reactions, and the general themes are similar. Hence I feel there are more cracks being papered than corners turned. That win against Huddersfield was our last home win before the Barnsley game. Let's hope for a convincing home win soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 12 hours ago, 054123 said: It was scrappy. Barnsley had better shape, but we still created chances and could’ve had 3. I don’t know, I understand who we are and hope to finish between 12-15. As long as we stay up this year I would be happy. I didn’t expect us to play great football or dominate teams this year. I expect it will take a couple of transfer windows (assuming we have funds!) to begin to sort this out. I think it’s going to become quite boring listening to the same narrative of whether we win, lose or draw, “but we’re not very good are we?” No shit, I ******* know that. Heres another newsflash, due to the cluster **** created by Steve and Mark, it ain’t going to be very good for a while and I don’t believe another coach somehow polishes the turd. Lets just dig in, support the team and just try to manufacture some points here and there, like we have done to this point. So we won, it was a great feeling but the performance was one of the worst against a very poor team. We simply cannot keep the ball for more than 4 or 5 passes and we go long at every opportunity. If you have a Warnock team of giants with a couple of greyhounds this might work but with what we have the ball just comes back. How could a very average Barnsley team also low on confidence play virtually all of the second half in our half. To me our team organisation and plan is going backwards. I would love to know what the game plan of NP is. Perhaps it is lump it forward or perhaps it is different and the players can't/won't carry it out. Either way you cannot criticise the teams effort and commitment on Saturday but the organisation was awful. As to our salvation being based on youth, I thought Benarous looks way off the pace. On a few occasions Barnsley players simply took the ball off him and ran away, he could not keep up. It seems that our youth policy has been to create a set of LJ clones. I truly hope that we can find a couple of loans in Jan who can bring some calm and organisation to our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I truly hope that we can find a couple of loans in Jan who can bring some calm and organisation to our midfield. Like King or Williams for example ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: Like King or Williams for example ? Williams I agree with King for me is too light weight plays too many square balls. If we are relying on Williams this season I think we are in trouble, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 45 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Are We papering over the monkey? That has GOT to be a euphemism Major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: I've taken some time to let the win settle in, and have reflected on it today. Honestly it just reminds me ever so much of the Huddersfield home game towards the end of Holden's time, in January 2021. We'd lost 5 of the previous 7, including losses to Rotherham, Luton, and the limp 2-0 away loss to Norwich. Huddersfield laid siege to our goal, 27 shots to our 4. xG of 2.6 to our 0.5. It was a brutal watch and we won thanks to a quickfire first half brace from our striker (Diedhiou in that case). Huddersfield hit the woodwork several times, and we rode our luck, just as we did yesterday. At the time there was jubilation from some, and claims of a dramatic corner being turned. I counseled caution and restraint, as the win had been very poor. We then lost our next 5 games, and Holden went. I get that I'm being a slight party-pooper in this post, and I am not saying that I think or hope we will repeat that 5 game streak. I'm not even saying the games themselves were similar. However the context, the reactions, and the general themes are similar. Hence I feel there are more cracks being papered than corners turned. The three of us agreed on the pod. We ended a run of defeats, we ended a run of games without a win at home. We have not turned the corner of performances. Two very different things. 4 hours ago, pl00peh91 said: It’s not the same situation, we’d lost two games against two of the three best teams in the league and should have beaten Forest had we not suffered from our psychological issues at home. I don’t expect another losing run for a while now. The next thing is to keep us solid / make us more solid, whilst we re-develop a way of playing with the ball. Lack of confidence is a bastard to shake off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolsch Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Papering over the cracks. We definitely need more in midfield and upfront otherwise it could be a long season. And by that I mean positional and style of play improvements via coaching. Recruitment would be an added bonus. We are just too “huff n puff” and industrial. We have some technically good players and also sparks with the likes of Massengo so the tools are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 It was very important (and exhilarating!) to finally end that winless run of home games. But the performance was dreadful and we need to start being much better both with and without the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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