Dastardly and Muttley

8 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Yeah think you've got a bit carried away there.

Hopefully. We’ll see come October

13 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

Why the need to repeat it over and over though? Its like you want Manning to fail so you can be proven correct. Every day, pretty much, its the same posts. Give it a rest 

It’s not about wanting him to fail, it’s just pretty obvious to see what’s about to happen. Manning gets the summer and tries to instil his way of playing.

Worst case scenario, he’s backed in the market and brings in Twine and a few others on big money. Manning then goes full Manningball and starts the season poorly, sacked by December and we’re sat in a relegation battle with the Scott and Semenyo money spent.

Best case scenario, the board still don’t trust him enough to spend so we recruit lightly this summer and can quickly pivot to a new manager when the inevitable happens.

Backs up what I’m worried about re Manning long term. If he’s playing the “board’s way” for these last 8 games, who’s to say he won’t immediately revert to type after a preseason…

3 hours ago, Son of Fred said:

Tommy ain't going to be Premier League bound so maybe the grass won't be greener - or the wages that much higher.

He's no mug so he'll think long & hard about options/overall value of those options & not just monetary.

Well, not the English PL anyway. Maybe the SPL. Can’t help but think the continued Rangers links have substance, and as someone on the fringe of the Scottish team, that may well interest Tommy.

9 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

You surely haven't just worked that out. VAR had done nothing to enhance the game, made worse by the fact it's now being used for incidents beyond its remit. It's purpose was to correct CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERRORS, not to pick up all and sundry. It should be scrapped or at least be limited to clear and obvious errors viewed in real time and decided upon within 2 minutes.  If you can't decide within 2 minutes it ain't clear and obvious. 

The offside rule has to be one of clear air, it shouldn't be determined on the size of someone's footwear. 

However, wherever you draw the line, there will always be situations where a player is an inch over. Every if you added a buffer, decisions could be an inch outside of that. Offside’s a factual thing; you either have VAR to help call it or rely on the eyes of the assistants.

3 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Watching the replay of the offside, the 2 lines drawn were red and blue, if the red was to signify man u and blue Coventry he is onside as the red line was closer to the goal, 

No, red line means offside. If he was on, the line would have been green.

10 minutes ago, pillred said:

And why haven't the results been bad? Have you ever thought that maybe the board knew the players they had and wanted in the future and maybe just maybe the man they chose could bring out the best in them by somehow relating to them and using a different way, how amazing would that be?

Bloody incredible. Because this board have not shown an ounce of ability to forward plan on the pitch since they’ve been in charge of the club. They lurched from pillar to pillar to pillar to pillar to pillar…

2 minutes ago, Ziderarmy said:

If that’s true. Who the hell negotiated that contract. The snake? 

Probably the tecknical director

We seem to be forgetting the Manning factor.

Our board are tied to him and need him to be a success, so will throw money at the problem to get him the people he wants. I fully expect to see Scott as a City player next year, for a big fee and big wages.

That’s what we do. Make stupid decisions based on the heart rather than the head. See David James, Lee Tomlin, Kasey Palmer…

13 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I hope the majority of the recent performances are the “new norm”, guess we’ll know more again after Huddersfield on Saturday.  Sunderland last Saturday was bloody poor, despite the 0-0.

And I think that’s where we’ll be with Manning. Some great performances, some dire, mostly average. Probably good enough to finish midtable, never quite bad enough to be sacked. Perpetual Bristol City.

For me, we’re safe. Preseason begins here. This should be Manning making his mark on how he wants to play going into next season and showing that in performances on the field.

But Manning doesn’t know how he wants to play and is coaching scared, so we’ll see poor performances and a few more draws.

They obviously haven’t seen much of us. We’re only capable of soundly beating the best teams. Against everyone else, we struggle.

Good luck to him. If he’s up to the role and all the travelling that comes with it, then it’s a great move. They’ve always struggled to attract and retain players because of geography, but having Nigel there could help.

Wouldn’t be a typical Argyle appointment, though. They prefer an up and comer.

7 minutes ago, RedM said:

Trouble on the metro too. Apparently a Bristol City fan has pulled the emergency stop on the metro. We have started again and now waiting at a station for 30 mins for the Police

Was it Lansdown? Getting everyone off the Manning metro?

Just now, Super said:

We're a mid table team.

Top six, I thought.

20 minutes ago, Super said:

Standard meltdown on here. No idea why we should be winning these type of games on the road. Yes it wasn't the best but you make sure you get something out of the game which we did.

Take a look at Sunderland’s form and see why we should be winning these games.

14 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

The way I saw it was that Manning could see we were playing badly and were lucky to go in at 0-0 so he hooked AM off and went to a back 5 to shut up shop and play for the point. I don't like that. 

Brought on McCrorie to limit Clarke, tried kicking him all half. Worked, to be fair. But it’s a typical, reactive LM sub to stifle rather than change games.

Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

Thought we were structurally better v Leicester than we were today especially first half today, when weighting for opponents etc.

I’d probably agree, there. Although we still gave up 3 or 4 clear cut opportunities. Better than 5 or 6 vs Leicester I guess

16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

We had our chances v Leicester tbh, perhaps maybe a point there would've been fair.

That’s not what I meant, though. I meant the clean sheet was lucky, rather than through quality defending.

Just now, Jose said:

I’d rather see a performance than a point to be honest. I see no signs that the football will get any better. Grabbing a lucky point against a team on an atrocious run just papers over some major cracks in my opinion. 

That’s all these last three games have done. It’s like throwing Poundland wrapping paper over the Grand Canyon.

Never seen a game where we’ve lost nearly every one on one battle, every second ball and the Sunderland players have outmuscled us in every duel.

There was no fight there at all and we’re lucky to escape with a point.

Some will point to the run of clean sheets, but to me that’s fool’s gold. Vardy would bury his chances 70-80% of the time. Sunderland would have scored those chances more often than not. That’s luck rather than good defending.

2 minutes ago, Street red said:

Max is saving us again in that first half some great saves.

Helps when the strikers hit it straight at him.

We are absolutely clueless again. No shape, no gameplan. And this is against a team that just lost 1-5 at home to a relegation threatened team.

The good work of the last two games is being undone. Absolutely shockingly bad and lucky not to be 3/4-1 down.

Just now, mozo said:

League position or points off playoffs, which is a better standard? Subjective I guess.

Whichever is closest to our stated goal of promotion. Which we’ve failed to achieve, or come close to, again because of a mid-season self-inflicted derailment of a season. 
Fair to say, I don’t see NP as a hero either. The Danny Simpson signing really stung me. But, I’ve argued for years and years that the one thing this team lacked was players, managers and executives with top flight experience. We had it in NP, Alexander, King, Weimann and James, and we now look to be getting rid of all of that within a season.

Hard to get there if you don’t know what “there” is all about.

1 hour ago, mozo said:

I think we should be prepared for a tough game and not expect to run wings round them!

Obvs I disagree with lots of that, but you talk about improvement being the target, well that's still in our gift this season. I don't think we can catch up with 10th but if we did, that's a decent season.

I meant improvement on where we were when NP left us - 4 points off the playoffs.

We won’t end up 4 points away.

I’m 100% with @W-S-M Seagull on this, and am probably Manning’s harshest critic even with Seagull included.

The decision to shift from NP to LM was definitely done with the aim of improving this season.

Also, with the return of players from injury, you’d have expected any half-competent manager and coaching staff to have improved us.

That’s not what we’ve seen, though. We’ve seen inconsistency and the most boring football served up since Pulis. Next season can’t come quick enough, if we could jump to his sacking in October right now, I would. Just hope he’s not given the nest egg to blow in the summer.