Silvio Dante

You’re welcome:

And this is why @ExiledAjax titled the thread as he did - great work fella!

That was as good as a CM performance as you’ll see tonight. Clip it. Show it to the academy. Show it to everyone. That is how you play that position.

As someone who has been critical of LMs game management and the inability to complete a 90 minute performance, can I be one of the first to say that from minute 1 to 90 that was superb. The only thing missing half one was cutting edge and that came with aplomb second half. The subs were right, the game was managed excellently and we made a very good side look bloody ordinary. Superb by all concerned tonight. But especially Matty James.

I think so - there’s definitely dancing, behind movie scenes in the ground

I hope I don’t regret this as I posted pretty much exactly the same at Soton away, but that’s the best 45 minutes under Liam for me. Plenty of work rate, good passing, look solid but just lacking in the last third thus far. Making a very good side look ordinary, great stuff thus far

Just on the point of “agreement” to the current approach (because it looks as if it was me who agreed it ). My preference was, and remains, re-merging the forum. I think the fact this thread has come up again demonstrates the depth of feeling and @Red-Robbois right that it won’t go away until that happens. When the decision was made by the mods not to re-merge the forum I didn’t agree with it but acquiesced- they do far more work than I do on this place, and if this change makes it easier for them then I can accept that. I suggested a delay of x hours before threads were moved as previously we had a “LJ” scenario where loads of threads were started and moved in quick succession. The mods have stuck to this, and absent a remerge, it’s the best but a non ideal solution. I don’t think any stock can be necessarily put in saying only x% of people engaged with the poll - as we know, most users don’t engage fullstop! My preferred option would remain a vote of OTIB supporters to determine the “final” decision here. Absent that, then I think the position is that the mods consider this is the way they can best manage the forum, then it is what it is but expect a similar thread to come up on a regular basis. My instinct is the current setup is more work, but I’m prepared to be wrong!

I hate him.

I think Man Utd comes in first for me for family reasons. I may have mentioned before but it was my wife’s 40th and she acquiesced to me going, on the basis that otherwise myself and my daughter would have just been in a piss all night! I will take to the grave with me the look of pure joy and shock on my daughters face when Korey scored - she stood open mouthed and stunned and said “I’ve never felt like this before”. It’ll pretty much always be number one for that reason. Second for me is the Donowa game. Went through so much shit of not beating Rovers so for Holloway to miss a penalty and then a last minute winner was so sweet it was untrue. Hereford in third. Primary school aged me seeing the team I’d not long supported get to Wembley set a dangerous precedent though!

The 5-2 was Crewe in the following season (or the one after?) and was Goodridge and Akinbiyi (the ones where they wore the “so stick with us we need you” t shirts). It was also an afternoon game. The Luton one was a 5-0 - see below:

Think a poll may be skewed by ages but it is worth linking to a few of the games mentioned:

To be fair, the exact quote from the Telegraph at the time was as detailed below. I’m not sure, for once, @Robbored is talking complete nonsense and it’s a bit of semantics to pull him up here. Edit - @The Fat Controller posted at the same time

I’d imagine there will be a lot of votes for Pompey in 1976 but in my time since the early 80s I can think of the following contenders: - Man Utd and the 2-1 win - Rovers and the Donowa goal - Hartlepool playoffs - Palace playoffs - West Brom under Lee Johnson when we went 3-0 up early (special as it was my sons first night game and we were unbelievable early, Webster playing CM IIRC!) - Swindon “no,no,no” - Hereford in Freight Rover Anyone got other contenders?

Priority window now open for Somerset T20 games. Tickets for Hants and Glos secured!

One of my best mates is an Ipswich ST holder. Obviously loves McKenna but the one weak spot he says he has is that he can sometimes be slow to change things when it’s not going to plan. He’s a huge fan of Manning as well and sees him as the next candidate if McKenna goes elsewhere as they’re mates with a similar philosophy - and it seems a similar weak spot

Yep, bang on. In a way, he’s now got a bizarre advantage - nobody seriously expects us to be troubling the scorers. This is the extended “pre season” people say he needs - it’s normal schedule with limited pressure. And it happens early. I’m very much on the sceptical side thus far but these 15 games will shape my view as to what we do have in LM.

A lot depends on the style. I’m personally more comfortable with a lower points return than that if there are consistent signs we’re moving the right way. In effect (and I know things aren’t mathematically decided), Liam has a 15 game pre season to shape what he needs for next year. I’ll take less points with a consistent plan and improvement on the in game management. If we gain 64 points but look sketchy over the next 15 and continue to be inconsistent (particularly in game) I’m less happy. It’s a big 15 games. But I don’t think results are the determining factor. We all saw Holden win games and we knew it couldn’t last for example.

Without resorting to personal abuse, @BS3_RED stated “if watching City pisses you off this much you can go and watch the gas, you won’t be missed” thereby stating that anyone against his/her post was a rovers fan. Life is a bit more nuanced than that! @IdliketoRogerMoore was clearly being sarcastic, but that nuance was lost.So far from me needing to “learn to read” or others being “idiots”, it might be appropriate, y’know, not to be a dick in the opening post?

No shit Sherlock. It doesn’t show.

Mate. This is the most bollocks argument ever. Someone disagrees with you - they must be gas! You clearly care, and that’s laudable. But your methodology of making your point is absolutely ridiculous. Hes not gas. Hes just reacting to a frankly ridiculous post.

They are, and to be brutally honest that’s why I don’t think things are sustainable. I genuinely dont think there is this big group hankering for Pearson back. The decision was made, it is what it is. To go over old ground, the issue is that what was appointed in Liam was a project as opposed to what they said it was. And let’s be clear - that isn’t inherently Liams fault, but he has a degree of blame as he didn’t do the due diligence. The anger stems from being lied to by Tinnion and Lansdown. The only way it abated is if we got an absolute golden bollocks manager who took us on a run which tore up the division. We didn’t - we got a project of a manager who has - as I said - a sketchy record. And the more signs that we have that we move to the failure side of that sketchy record, naturally things get more fraught as it calls the original decision into question. I’m not sure anyone who has seen us under Liam can say that they have consistent confidence he can deliver what Tinnion and Lansdown said the next coach would. It’s a punt. And again, that’s not his fault. But he’s been sub par to date in my book, and I’ll call that out. So, people are angry. Because we appointed a project coach. And to be clear, if we were 20th when he was taken on it wouldn’t be an issue. But we weren’t. And that’s the problem. His “rebuild” wasn’t needed. It was just desired by Brian. And a rebuild won’t get us there next season. So it’s not sustainable and the anger won’t abate. Until a couple of people go.

Just to say a couple of things; - I do, but it doesn’t mean I know better than anyone who doesn’t - By this logic we should just shut the forum down as none of us are as qualified as the management. Its a high bar, but you may have posted your most nonsensical point ever.

Behave. Liams got criticism and it’s been justified. His in game management has been sub par. That’s nothing to do with Pearson, it’s totally on him. It’s also more than reasonable to question if he’s the right man for the job. He hasn’t got a CV that would scream he is, and it’s a step above anything he’s managed before. (Note - taking time to adapt is fine but it’s not a guarantee of success, so this narrative of “he needs time and it’s fine” really needs to stop as if it’s unquestionable truth) We all want him to succeed. I don’t pay £800 on season tickets to want to see someone fail and hurt our club! But asking legitimate questions about how he’s approaching games, particularly with a sketchy record elsewhere and here so far is absolutely legitimate. Posts like this are just nonsensical. If we’re not allowed to critique what we see, then what is the point of the forum?

Having not seen the game, and as someone who has expressed doubts over Liam’s in game management, I’m just posting here to say I’m not hiding - I just don’t think I’m appropriately qualified to comment today so will leave the debate to the rest of you!