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It's currently 56 competitive matches without a penalty. I believe the record is 73 matches held by Port Vale. They got two in the match that broke that run!

Happened to have a look in the shop whilst on a job the other day and I have to say that the Oppo phones look quite decent. Not come across them before and have certainly never used one in anger, but being a less well known brand may well mean that you will get more bang for your buck if you buy one.

I always thought Charlie Harper was the oldest of the punks, turns out I was wrong!

They aren't acronyms

Anything Apple is a computer for people that don't like computers, but you pay double the money for half the power. Samsung and the Pixel are probably the best of the freely available phones out there, but it all depends on what you're looking for really.

Backseat Education - Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction

Pointing out that Indian food is spicier than English food is hardly racist is it?

If you reflect the values of the nazi's then surely you cannot get upset when people call you a nazi? Who your father was is irrelevant to that. How is that tying myself up in knots?

To the best of my knowledge nobody has ever been called a nazi on OTIB so what is there to call out? Yes, what our fathers did is precious, but in what way does it stop somebody becoming a nazi themselves? please explain how?

If they have the attributes of a nazi then of course it is, what their father did is in no way relevant

I'm sorry, do you view those terms as a form of taking the piss? If you don't then you are missing the point entirely. If you do then you do not understand the gravity of having those terms used against you.

And if he was black with ginger hair then it would be equally as bad. Nothing to do with being a straight white male whatsoever.

I'd love to see an example of taking the piss out of a straight white male that couldn't be applied to just about anyone with no extra offense. If it's taking the piss out of a black person that wouldn't work or make sense if applied to a white person, then it's not taking the piss, it's racism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63660032

I know Scotland can be a strange place, and maybe it's common parlance amongst Scottish football fans, but for the life of I can't see who the teams he mentions might be (apart from Livingstone)... "Next 4 games after World Cup are Huns, Livy, Tims and Gunts. How many points do you see this team getting out of those games!"

With your avatar I'm surprised there's no Milo Goes To College?

You bought it? Seeing as it was advertised as the 'Ultimate' Hot Dog, I presume the sold out signs are up now?

It's hordes not hoardes....

I am in my 39th season watching City and cannot think of one - has there ever been a time when we were playing as many youth products in the first team as now?

8-10K would be about par for a game like this I reckon. Going for a trip down memory lane and bought tickets in the Dolman for this one!

I saw the thread title and thought "Christ, not another Ian Gay thread"

So you've gone from blaming Liverpool to agreeing it could have happened to any club? Nice to see you have accepted that and accordingly adjusted your viewpoint.

Apologies, it must be a different ground I am thinking of with similar circumstances, the game I am thinking of was the first day of the season around the mid nineties from memory?

To try and make those fans responsible for the deaths that day is not a good look. They were acting no differently to the way fans of any club would have done that day, what they did was completely in line with the culture of the day. It has been shown time and again that the cause of the tragedy was the incompetence of the police in dealing effectively with the crowd, a crowd that could easily have been predicted and dealt with by authorities that didn't regard football fans as scum. The people at the back of the crowd trying to get in were no less innocent than those at the front having their lives extinguished. This was a failing of the football culture of the time, both amongst fans and police. A culture that existed because of the thuggish behaviour of fans of all clubs for decades previously. Of course, those 'naughty' awayday fans from back then are lauded as 'top lads' amongst a largish, thankfully ageing, minority on this forum and around football in general. Ultimately it is those 'top lads' that are responsible indirectly for the deaths at both Hillsbrough and Heysel.

My point of view is a lot of these problems were indeed the fault of thuggish fans, if not Hillsbrough itself it was their previous behaviour that created the conditions that led to the tragedy, but it was a problem that affected all football at all (professional at least) levels, you cannot point the finger at just Liverpool fans. I was at Roots Hall on that day as well, and it was maybe the scariest situation I've been in at a match. From memory there were steps leading down a grass bank to the turnstiles that exacerbated the situation? I was also at Donnington the day that two people were trampled to death when Guns n Roses came on stage. These situations can happen when large crowds of people are involved, and in a civilised society it is at least partly the responsibilty of the authorities to ensure that conditions are safe for everyone and you certainly cannot go placing the blame on individual members of the crowd.