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1 hour ago, Jacki said:

I don't disagree with the logic here but I can't see them sacking Manning even if we lose to Swansea. We tend to support managers through poor runs of form (LJ and Nige both benefitted from that), and there is no way that Tinnion and JL are going to want to admit they've got it so horribly wrong this quickly. IMO anyway - I just can't see it. 

I think Manning will stay until after the international break, and they'd only get rid if we really did look like we were going down. Which is entirely possible the way things are going at present. 

 

 

Let's be real - NP inherited one of worst squad culture situations including the Wilson Drinking culture I've seen since I supported City and anybody could see it - 12 players were out of contract that summer and only 1 iirc signed a deal.

Non-starter of a comparison regrading the context of the situation - has been pointed out time and again.

24 minutes ago, TheReds said:

Any reason why the OP never chose 15 games? 

What were the 3 games before those 12, I just had a look.....  Watford - won, Hull - won, Sunderland - won, so add those 9 points and where would we be?

As much as I am certainly not convinced by what has happened, and probably agree that it actually seems we have regressed, it does show that plenty on here will choose what to present to suit their own stance (both sides too).

12 games is 12 games, I could easily look at the last seven.

With all respect - it matters sweet **** all when the momentum on paper the smaller the sample to present gets, it gets worse not better.

12 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Imagine.

Imagine we’d not lost the last three and we’d gone to second in the league and matched them for most of the game. There wouldn’t be any real negativity. The negativity, quite understandably, is driven by wider factors. But tonight, in isolation, wasn’t horrific.

I think until we went ahead Manning got it spot on. The first half was boring as hell, but contained them. This led to frustration from Ipswich and we reacted well - we could have been two up easily. What was totally noticeable though is how much better we were when attacking at pace. Real lesson there.

I do go with that after we went ahead that McKenna managed the game better than Manning. Our second was great but a bit against the run, and not even making a disruptive sub when things were drifting last ten is a big no no.

I said pre match that what happened changed nothing. It really doesn’t. It was better, but similar concerns remain. If Liam was a 4 last three games he’s a 7 tonight. But the aspects that drive that grade down are still there.

Not hanging him in isolation and 2/3 good tonight. But it’s still not enough.

I mean. If it wasn't for Max, it finishes 4-2.

That comes from not taking Pring off or adjusting shape by Manning due to Ipswich's changes. 

11 hours ago, petehinton said:

Sounds like it’s ANOTHER bad hamstring injury picked up, this time for Cornick. 
 

Good thing Tinnion & JL didn’t publicly blame the previous medical team for our injury problems (when 90% were in-game injuries), they’d really be looking very ******* stupid if they did. 
 

Oh….

*pretends to be shocked*

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

That nails it I think. Big gap between perception and reality. He has the image of a dinosaur which is nonsense.

We saw 3 or 4 tactical phases, iterations in his time here. We were continuing to develop until the failure to replace Scott.

Second Tier are perhaps somewhat biased as there is at least one Derby fan in there, Dilks iirc and they (Derby fans) really don't rate him. His short stint there probably the reason why.

Which never made sense to me when you have Mental Mel flying drones over training sessions, but sure the manager is to blame.

14 hours ago, Robbored said:

I don’t think that BT should get all the blame when, as suggested sacking Nige was a combined decision in which JL and his dad would have had the final word.

Hence the word “scapegoated’ - certainly by many posters on here

He's the only one of the three ultimately sackeable.

That's the difference.

7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Interesting with Manning tbh. Coventry fans I saw on my feed on Twitter a week or 2 ago seemed to intimate that we had made a shrewd move replacing NP with Manning.

Bizarre take for sure?? Maybe I'll go back and ask, seems a strange take to say the least and looks stranger by the week. I completely disagree with their analysis of course.

Think many fans outside of clubs he's managed have this idea that he's some kind of dinosaur - Second Tier being an epitomy of it.

When in truth he's just a basic, but good, man manager. Playing to the strength of his available squad.

39 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

It feels likely some of the mid 40s could be surpassed this year, the runs of QPR and Sheffield Wednesday have been outstanding.

Perhaps the 2 outstanding post sacking appointments in Cifuentes and Rohl albeit their bases were so low that the only way was up in a sense.

Rohl inspired by Chansiri, was a cracking appointment.

The fact even that nutjob can look abroad and get it right while we have birdbrained Tinnion and crayon-eater in charge just... hurts.

2 hours ago, IAmNick said:

PPG is 1.095 which should be rounded up to 1.1

I'd make the point that a draw is more likely to be the case than a win in those margins ergo rounding down is probably more accurate.

For PPG in general, I should clarify. In the same manner 1.095 gives 50.37 points, ergo rounds down to 50.

1 hour ago, BCFCGav said:

No harm in giving him a proper go next season after a pre-season/some of his own signings. Until the Lansdown’s go the prem is a pipe dream anyway.

If relegation starts to look very on, then we’ll have to change sooner, but shouldn’t come to that.

Manning doesn't statistically have an issue with Teams in the top six though. His record around and under us is morbid.

Swansea is the final acid test for me. Lose that, and no way should he get the summer.

1 hour ago, CiderHider said:

Stats suggest he is a below average keeper in this division, nothing special at all, can't kick, does not communicate with his defenders, he's a sap and needs to find another club, i'm sick of him.

 

 

I mean, that's just factually incorrect.

2 hours ago, PFree said:

Okay, beaten in the end by a side who were better than us, but fair play, we gave it a real go. Along with most others, I’ve been really disappointed after the last three games but tonight felt different.

Finally, well done to our fans who made the journey, horrible place to get to and it takes flipping ages.

 

Means nothing, unless we see a similar performance (and more importantly, three points) on Sunday.

3 minutes ago, petehinton said:

When you look at what was said when Pearson was sacked, along with the medical dept, compared to these stats, our league position, and our list of injured players….

 

It’s actually hilarious.  

Experts knew better than JL and Tinnion.

Who could have guessed.

Anyhow - off to bed.

11 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

They all play tomorrow.

True - just gives me the heebie-jeebies looking at the table in its current format.

My take on it - for those that care.

Manning's problem is that he can nail the setup like he did today - and its great.

•  Played Knight alongside Wells for the front-two press (this needed to have been done much earlier as a general change of his setup and not just tonight).

• Against an open team, who we always do favourably against, but especially when using more of a press.

• Triggered the press weel in correct transition phases when they played into their pockets (Davis, Taunzebe, Luongo, Morsy).

• Pushed McCrorie and Pring high to pin them back when in possession, and forced them to start transitions from deeper meaning easier to close in the space in behind with their players pinned (see point three).

Credit for all of that. But he struggles when opposition adapt - Cardiff did it Saturday after 25 minutes, Sheffield Wednesday did it after half time not that we were in that game at all, Ipswich did it using subs on the 61st (Hamadi, Burns, inparticular). Its the fact that Manning doesnt adjust quick enough, hes looking for evidence of problems before correcting them instead of anticipating said problems (Pring's fitness, TGH struggling second half defensively) which then lead directly to the goals we concede. Its happened in almost every game that we get worse after half time. The in-game management just isnt there, and nor is the motivation and previous character we had, like after that second equaliser - heads drop; add on he's already blamed players directly at least three times individually or generally in press conferences and being younger players they're goign to be more prone to drips in form, they need encouragement, not just critique granted that we can't speak for what goes on in training but performances of said younger players have not been good for a while (Conway, Bell, TGH, etc).

Its not a sustainable situation, and ultimately the performance matters little if we don't get at least a point out of games like that.

3 minutes ago, Super said:

Sunday really feels like a massive game.

...Because it is?

Five games in hand within the teams below us. Yuck.

6 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said:

This is nothing to do with Manning tonight, sorry. You can say that about the last 2 results, but this one’s on the players. Gutless and weak. 

Disagree -

 - He's aware that Pring may not be fully fit, the second they bought on Burns, he should have at least bought Roberts on for fresh legs.
 - Vyner has struggled the entire half against Hamadi - should have switched him and Dickie around at worst.
 - TGH has struggled defensively the entire game - has the option to bring King on for experience that was lost with Wells going off to go sit back into a low block again and preserve, playing on the break.

He simply doesnt stay adaptable. He's too rigid in his thinking.

TGH not concentrating - again. Thats all three set pieces on review now.

*Sigh*

What a ball on the stretch by Sykes - glad hes back.

And.. there it is.

Ipswich have gotten 25 points from having been in losing positions - long way to go yet.

... And hit the bar, dammit.

TGH fell asleep back post - need to focus more on the ball instead of dragging back Moore.

1 minute ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Tinnion resigned- it's all well documented .

His resignation did , however, bring in a period of great fun (mainly) and an 'almost' moment.

If you think LM will resign or be fired in the next 24-48 hours then you may well be disappointed.

He got to resign simply due to the fact of being SLs friend.

Manning won't get that allowance.