Red Skin

I am a reluctant no.  Don't think he's mobile enough to play we want to, and with less game time if he stays he will be coming in with less match sharpness.

My main concern is that with King going, we will lose alot of experience and guidance a for a young team. 

Wouldn't be to put out of he did stay.  

32 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Thanks, I haven't yet watched this but I watched the Gordon one and like you was very impressed.

What you have to say brings me back to the view that the modern game is much less about positions and more about roles. E.g. the right backs available to England all have different profiles.

It's not quite the simple game people claim. If it ever was!

 

Yes, it is a very different game.  Neville basically admits he'd be hard pressed to play the role these days.

I've posted links to these a few times.

Very interesting discussion from about 14 mins on how the full back role has changed between Gary Neville's day and how TAA plays the role now.  

TAA talks about the framework - as opposed to formation - that Liverpool play to that has structure but allows flexibility for him to move into midfield or push up wide dynamically as the game demands. 

What's clear is the team need to work as one, with players reading the game reacting to what's happens in game to maintain some of the principles Klopp want them to play to - in this instance the need to keep 4 players in midfield at all times.  

It highlights some of the decision making and understanding players now need in addition to technical ability and fitness to perform at the highest level.   You need ability, coachability and intelligence. 

Obviously lots to reflect on for us in terms of how Manning is changing the way we play.  I'm not suggesting he attempting to play heavy metal football here, but the work it must take imbedding his principles into the team so it becomes instinctive for everyone on the pitch to act as one.  It also highlights the attributes that we need to look for when recruiting players. 

AA comes across really well.  Very humble and thankful for how Klopp has helped as a player and a person. 

The interview with Anthony Gordon is a great one too.  He is one dedicated individual and went up in my estimation after listening to him talk about his preparation and dedication. 

4 hours ago, David Brent said:

Also, we may not have got him had we waited until the end of the season. 

Oh, I appreciate that. Just must be a weird feeling for the lad. 

I was wondering what yesterday would've been like for him.  Achieved promotion and then out celebrating with your team mates when you know you won't be playing alongside them next year.  Must've been a bit odd.  

I guess it proves the value in the deal Derby struck.  Would they have got promoted had he not stayed there until the end of the season?

2 hours ago, Mad Cyril said:

I have lop sided bollocks.

Can anyone dentist sort those out?

I can give you a number of a woman that can lick them into shape. DM me. 

I love this interview.  I love the interviewer so committed to his club, and with so much knowledge about Sokes time with them. I love the fact when Stokesy was asked about his move, he shifted it back to loving his time at Aldershot.   He seems like a genuine lad and I hope it works out for him with us.  

Don't that stand (yes, stand) look ******* amazing too! 

2 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

To be fair, Gary Johnson made him do it (not the headbutt, the interview).

Didn't know that, but he was very genuine in what he said.  

18 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

It’s a dance. We know he’s fibbing. He knows we know he’s fibbing

This is nearer the mark that calling it lies.

You just can't be totally transparent about everything.  Sometime information can only be shared when it's right to. 

I'm with LM on the emotional control stuff.   Others on here took that to mean emotionless, and I couldn't be arsed to counter, but this is what I took LM to mean. 

It irks me when players get so irate with a perceived error by the ref to, say, 'incorrectly' give a free kick to the opposition, that they lose all control and prefer to continue arguing with referee rather than retreating and getting on with their job marking their man etc.  The opposing team then have a chance or worse score as a result.

Or when a defender gets beaten by a winger their ego is so crushed they feel they have to make a suicidal tackle in the penalty area to try and regain their pride, and give away a needless penalty.

Both cases where unchecked emotions get in the way of doing their job and the whole team - and we as fans - suffer as a consequence.

A City classic was Orr's headbutt.  Obviously Bradley was troubled by his impending court case at the time, so his overreaction was understandable to some degree. (Love the lad for coming on camera and fronting up that he was out of order.  Massive respect for that).

I thought the ref was great.  Her body language exuded confidence, she was decisive and as other have said she got almost everything correct.   

Thought the aggression shown Huddersfield players in response to the penalty decision - particularly the blond lad - was out of order. 

@kiwicolin Thanks for sharing that.  Love a Bovril.  Grealish is a top lad.   

Agree with OP. On the whole he hasn't done as well since coming back from injury, though he is contributing to goals so that's a positive.  I always thought one of the No 10 roles would suit him (certainly more so than Knight) as he can spot a pass and he's one of our better finishers.  Quick too.  

I was at the game. Leroy who?

Hi 

My daughter was down for Easter and I wanted to transfer a ST to her.  (She used to be a season ticket holder before going to uni).

Unfortunately I didn't know about the 3hr cut off before the game and left it too late.

Why do we have this cut off?  It's not uncommon for friends to have things crop up last minute - COVID, childcare issues - so the cutoff can be a pain. 

Surely, the ticketing system is bright enough to figure out a digital ticket has been already used and won't let you forward it after it has?  

15 hours ago, Robbored said:

I assume that a player removing his shirt in celebration of scoring is seen as antagonistic towards opposing fans. it’s also a yellow if a player leaves the pitch and joins/dives in to the teams supporters for the same reason,

Leaving the field of play to dive into the supporters is one thing, and I can see why that may be bookable.  

I never agree with the 'antagonising' opposition fans though.  The poor delicate little flowers that are able to gesture and chant abuse at players all game, that can't take it when they get some abuse back.  Surely, the most antagonist thing is scoring in the first place!

Why exactly is it a booking offence?

Most players wear an undershirt anyway so it not like they are exposing themselves.

If it is to do with not showing the sponsors name when all the cameras are on them in the moments after they score, then surely this should be a financial penalty dished out by their sponsor rather than handled as a booking.

If it's to reveal a political message then perhaps that is one thing, but if it isn't then there shouldn't be any any booking as far as I'm concerned 

Just let the players celebrate the moment.

7 hours ago, Red Skin said:

Should've at least gone with Puma. 

@Lewisdabaron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassler_brothers_feud

Do you know the history behind Puma and Adidas?  

On 30/03/2024 at 10:41, Ronnie Sinclair said:

I read the other day that they are moving to Nike next year - I can’t imagine a German kit that isn’t Adidas it’s just wrong !

Should've at least gone with Puma. 

15 hours ago, glynriley said:

We had a discussion in the pub pre match. Would you rather have Max or Bentley. I was the only one , out of 8 , who said Max. Felt like a dog with 2 dicks after

Decent keeper is Max. 

That's funny. I live next to two dicks with a dog.  Have no idea what they think of Max's goalkeeping performances, though. 

Very good keeper.  Exudes far more calmness than Bents ever did.

I didn't realise I had to forward a season ticket 3hrs before the game. My daughter is home from uni and needs a tickets for her.  Any spares? 

9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Personally I want a DoF and / or CEO to be good at “business”, and in particular good at “football business”…to build and execute a “football strategy”.  That’s very different to a Project Manager imho, so I don’t agree with Tim on that.

I guess it's the 'seeing things through' aspect of what a PM should do is what he feels is a strength.  

Making the strategy becomes embedded in what the club does and reflected in roles and accountabilities of staff that can be actually measured against performance is makes it a reality.  

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

46 mins onward.

For info the guy being interviewed is Tim Keech, one of the founders of MRKT Insights, who started off doing recruitment consultancy for teams like Swansea and Plymouth.

Now, I can see what you're planning!  Data analyst becoming Technical Directors!  

Seriously, though, the idea that project managers make the best directors of football I find incredibly depressing.  

Stick To Football

No, I'm not suggesting him for us, but some interesting stories of his work as DoF at QPR.  I really enjoy the format of these with Neville, Keane, Wright and others.

I always loved Ferdinand as a striker.  

47 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

13 out of 30 have gone down I believe. You said very few exceptions which is what I disagreed with. Over 50% have stayed up which means they have competed 

You and your bloody statistics! Perhaps it's one of those instances where the impression doesn't match the reality.   

1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

I disagree here. Out of the last 10 teams to win the championship, only 3 have gone down the following season. 5 of the last 10 runners up have stayed up.  Only 2 of the last 6 play off winners have been relegated.  

So in the last 10 years out of 30 teams promoted how many have stayed up and cemented a place in the PL?   I really don't think it's many.   Those that do stay up are usually at the bottom of the league. And out of those 30 they'll be a fair few yoyo clubs so featured many times.  Every season the bookies and pundits all have the promoted teams as most likely to go down again.  I haven't looked at the stats, but I think what I've said is generally the case.