I agree with practically everything you say and was clear in my point of view that i felt NP had taken us as far as he could, i wanted a younger and up-coming manager which is why i advocated Cooper and Martin when they were available causing much angst to many on here but my point was that we need to move on without NP's name constantly popping up in practically every other topic from the pro and anti NP camps, just for the record i was delighted when Manning was appointed, time will tell if my enthusiasm for him is justified but the early signs are promising