BRISTOL86

There is the conundrum.

He really could be the top scorer in the country right now. However to say that to be content with him, because of how the rest of the team is doing, he would have to be the countrys top scorer is setting the bar very high indeed.

It is very frustrating, but if we were tighter, I think we would be celebrating his winners much more than his misses.

I think...

Quite.

Bottom line is if he was scoring that many he wouldn't be playing for us!

Anyone would think we were Man City the way we think so highly of ourselves. We're propping up division 3 people, reality check.

Apart from Jet obviously....

Baldock is now joint scorer with JET. who knows who will finish the season on more.

At least Baldock wanted it today. More than can be said for JET who can seemingly do no wrong.

Much is made of Baldock's chances missed but nothing of JET who today couldn't find a team mate more often than he was dispossessed.

amen to that brother,,,,,,imo we are getting a good return from him .....the real issue is the conceding,,,,, cut that out and draws like today become wins......even if we miss loads of chances ......

and i believe we will get there !

Don't let sense get in the way of a good scapegoat opportunity!

The fact that we've dropped a level and we are still propping up a league due to goals conceded seems to have escaped the attentions of the whingers.

Who scored more goals in a season for City?

Baldock or Pitman

Perhaps you should check that and reconsider your comments

For at least a week your comment will have legs. Enjoy.

Your tongue is still firmly wedged up Baldocks arse......

The comparison your making to Pittman is one of a desperate man.....the fact Pittman made so many appearances off the bench combined in a team that created NOTHING in the division ABOVE just confirms just how clueless you are.

They shouldn't be compared, but personally would much prefer Brett at this level than baldock.

Baldock's goal to appearance ratio is considerably better than Pitmans, and he's the 6th highest scorer in the league. If that's a wasteful striker then I'm glad we have one.

Fact is we don't have Pitman, so move on. There is absolutely no evidence of any kind to suggest he would be on more than 12 goals this season, might as well speculate on how many assists Ozil would have for all the good it will do.

There's a reason Baldock's played basically every game we've played. We don't have anyone who will put the ball in the back of the net as much as he will, so maybe people should try supporting rather than constantly picking fault.

Good to see I still can't make a post without you having a personal dig though. The hallmark of intelligence.

Not if you break it down to minutes on the pitch. Baldock is ever present.

Anyway, I don't wish to slate Baldock. As I have stated in a previous post, his goal to games ratio this season is as much as the most optomistic fan could have asked from him.

I just don't happen to believe that he is a 'natural' finisher. Pitman was one of the most 'natural' finishers I have seen in my time at the gate, along with Bob Taylor and (in his time with us) Leroy Lita.

Oh, and Andy Cole, of course.

 

Maybe so but he scored just 20 times in nearly 80 games. If Baldock isn't driven out by the time he's played 80 games for us he could be on 30-35

 

I don't know how often he starts for Bournemouth but he's on 5 in 24 this season. So still VERY strange for people to be lamenting him as the one who got away when our only out and out striker who starts games is considerably more prolific.

 

Less clinical perhaps, but still by far the more prolific striker.

22 missed 1 on 1s?

What's your thoughts on that?

 

My thoughts are he's one of the highest scorers in League One and the joint highest in our team, and on course for 20-25 league goals.

 

Why does no one talk about the number of missed tackles that Flint makes? Or the number of times JET tries to take on 8 players and loses possession?

 

Ultimately, a striker is measured on goals scored, and for him to be on course for that total when we've been propping up the league all season makes it beyond belief that every game ends in a thread bemoaning a "wasteful" striker.

Quite simply, yes. The amount of chances he has missed for a striker we paid good money for is frankly, embarrassing.

You can't fault his effort but Brett is 10 times the finisher Sam will ever be.

 

But Baldock's twice the goalscorer for us that Brett ever was......?

Apart from all the one on ones he's missed that have been threaded through to him on the ground???

Notts county miss - ball played on the ground.

3x Coventry misses - ball played on the ground.

2x misses today - ball played on the ground

Miss vs Crawley - ball played on the ground.

Miss vs Watford - ball played on the ground.

I could go on and on. Don't get this "long balls pumped to him" bollucks.

 

I'm not saying he hasn't missed chances he should have buried.

 

But there's still only 6 players in the entire division that have scored more than him, so that tells it's own story. People just aren't happy unless they have someone to moan about.

Because Pitman was largely coming off the bench??

 

The stats are still incomparible.

 

Pitman finished better than Baldock in the one on one environment, but Baldock scores more goals.

 

Personally I'd rather have someone who will give you 20 a season than someone that is more "clinical" but doesn't make enough chances. 1 in 2 is better than 1 in 4 whichever way you slice it up.

There is a difference... SERVICE.

 

Because Baldock's been spoiled with excellent service all season?!

 

He's had long balls pumped to him from defence for 80% of the season!

He set up Baldocks chances for **** sake!!!!!

Anyone who would sell JET over Baldock needs their head tested. Running around isn't a skill. JET = most talented player we've had in years and years.

 

That's never been in doubt, it's just a real shame how sporadic that talent is used, and when it's not there, we are effectively a ten man team because he contributes nothing off the ball.

Pitman scored almost 1 in 4 for us, Baldock is close to double that, yet everyone talks about how clinical Pitman is.

 

He wouldn't have had them!!

 

Precisely. Baldock makes a good deal of chances for himself that others wouldn't have even had. Pitman would be lucky to have 5 up to this point if he'd been playing in the team we've been playing for most of the season under SOD, he relies on excellent service. Baldock is so used to getting no service that he has to engineer his own chances.

No he just can't finish, 15 goals this season tells you that

 

Beyond belief isn't it. Just beyond the halfway point and conceivable he could finish the season on 25, yet every week berated for his wastefulness. Only OTIB.

 

Never mind the fact that we concede in EVERY SINGLE GAME, with woefully inadequate defending.

Maybe something to do with the number of points Baldock has cost us and the number JET has got us.

 

Staggering that you can't see beyond missed one on ones.

 

Why was JET taken off today and not Baldock? Because he did **** all for the team, that's why.

Amazing that there's a thread slagging off Baldock, and nothing about how utterly useless JET was. We may as well have played with 10 men until Burns and Barnett came on.

 

Perhaps if every other game SB didn't have to do the work of two people he'd get more. He worked his socks off in the second half, and Barnett did more in 30 seconds than JET did today.

 

Baldock clearly lacks a bit of confidence in the one on one situation, but he still got two goals which salvaged us a point today. I couldn't believe the two chumps behind me who booed him off at half time. Embarassing.

 

Funny how Baldock is lamented for his lack of putting chances away, and what's he on now? 15 or something? Well on course for 20+.

 

If we didn't concede so many, we'd be top half. The goals we conceded today were so soft, and that's why we dropped 2 points today.

Great signing, look forward to seeing him in action. Anyone that adds a bit of experience and grit to our backline is great.

Welcome aboard Tyrone!

Would of thought Osborne had been announced by now at least. Seeing as he tweeted Friday he had signed!

Just announced.

I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers.

A successful 433 though normally depends on two good wingers and one out and out striker, rather than three strikers!

It would certainly make us a threat going forwards! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!

He's a physical presence up front, and can score goals. 28 or even 29 years of age is fine for any striker on a 2 year contract, look how old Stead is even now.

 

I don't know why everyone is suddenly obsessed with player age. As you say, 28 or 29 is not old by any stretch for a good player. It's very admirable bringing through young players, but there has to be a balance of youth and experience, and Tyrone Barnett - although might not be everyone's first name on the list for new recruits - has experience at this level.

 

Prolific goalscorer he isn't, but that's not exactly his role. I do think however that we certainly won't be accommodating SB, JET and TB on the same teamsheet, so it'll be interesting to see what gives....or whether Cotterill knows something we don't about where JET will be by the time the month is out.

taken from twitter:

shit if you want to play good football, perfect for hoofball. Slow and lazy.

On his day he looks a quality player, when its not his day then he can be bloody awful

I can't believe my eyes, people want TYRONE BARNETT at their club, hahaha!

Like how all the Ipswich fans said JET was a lazy so and so whose attitude and work rate would have us tearing our hair out?

If confirmed this has to be the end for Taylor? Loan until the end of the season then released? Could be a good fit for the Blue Few, though if it means they evade slipping through the trap door I would rather we kept him.

We can only hope!