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Nov 3, 2016 at 5:57pm Topper Gas said: Nov 3, 2016 at 5:07pm gasincider said: Quite simple. Until they sell us the land it's on, they hold all the aces. If they insist on it being called any particular name, they can use it as a sword over us. If they sell us the freehold, usually it means we can sell the naming rights to anyone's else, unless of course it is a caveat to the overall sale, though that would be unusual. At the start of all this, the UWE had agreed to let us have the land for £8m and we would sell the naming rights for 5 years for the same amount. Subsequently, the UWE put the price up to £11m for the land, and then came the fiasco with Sainsbury's. As for the feasibility study, why would UWE insist on it? The people who will insist on it are the people putting up the money as is usual in these cases. They will want to know the whole thing is viable to ensure they get their money back with interest on the capital employed. As a matter of courtesy i would imagine that Rovers will let them see the conclusions drawn on the study, but what UWE will want is guarantees that the funding is in place to complete the build once it begins. But that was then not now, if there was no contract in place then surely any previous agreements no longer apply, or at least they aren't binding, and it's now down to what agreement the the UWE and Wael can now come to over the price of the land/the stadium naming rights, as surely if we buy the land the UWE can't dictate what we call the new stadium. No doubt the UWE will also want some guarantee that the stadium is feasible, as I doubt they'll want a Darlington type situation, with a white elephant stuck on their land should Rovers ever hit financial problems. Plus when Wael first mentioned the study he suggested once it was available he would sit down with all the interested parties, having already suggested finance was in place, I assume interested parties must include the UWE. Wasn't one of the key conditions for Rovers taking on the leasehold of the land, and starting construction, that the stadium itself should be debt-free i.e. fully funded from the sale of the Mem?From what we hear about outside investors funding the stadium under the new regime, that wouldn't be the case. I don't know if this has anything to do with any lack of news. Just wondering if it is one of many new factors to be considered before UWE are happy. Uwe not able to sale the land as the was given it by HP and not allowed to sale to a third party

I totally accept what is indicated there but it cannot be totally correct. Had a word with TW before the game and he confirmed that the time period starts from the moment the Section 106 is signed and not the date that the planning permission is granted. That was some months after the planning permission was granted. He also thought that the period had been extended. He did make a comment that some work had started at the UWE site but that it might not be sufficient to satisfy the planners that work had started. Perhaps someone, with more spare time on their hands than me, can find out the date the Section 106 was finally signed. Also, if the period has been extended at any time. They need to have all the footings in place or the pp will run out uwe not going to happen

Please accept my sincere condolences hope we win tonight thinking of you and your family God bless

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Nearby so went to have a look. More and more lorries moving on and off site and earth moving gear.So as you do, wondered over and asked a couple of drivers what they were up to. One straight away said this is where the new Rovers ground is going isn't it? I said yeah. Is that why you guys are here? No, we are here to start clearing the site for the car park.Make of that what you will.

Still waiting for henbury gas big announcement about uwe tick tock phil

12 hours ago chippenhamgas said: 14 hours ago Henbury "Scab" Gas said: plan B is about to be put into action.... More investment needed Bring back Nick Higgs Maybe we should have gone with the other consortium who apparently had the finance in place to start uwe immediately. Wael clearly isn't willing to finance this himself which means every detail in negotiations has to go our way to make outside investment add up. Uwe aren't going to concede everything. Is this a joke?? Everyone needs to chill out, if UWE isn't right long term we don't want it, so we have a delay short term.... big deal!

The penny will drop soon

No money to spend

Wally don't have the money to pay for uwe site yes his family has some money but all invested in there four persent shares he has been trying to get backing from investors with no luck on paper he's has money he was banking on Sainsbury losing in court and now finding he stuck with little chance of getting his return this is why there now news on uwe also no players pay for and why he is tarting up there ground on the cheep

The council have asked the travellers to move from the downs to the rovers ground said they be more at home there

Will they now say that they will be building a new ground by junction 13 ? buys them them more time and saves face about the uwe

Think the next 3 or so months are crucial, as if there's no agreement during that time with the UWE then you have to fear yet another new stadium has fallen by the wayside. If it does it could be years before land is found, plans approved and finance put in place for another staduim.

Philgas wish he was one of us

mate of mine is a frequenter at the new sh8te refurb, very impressed with "the fans aspect" of it all, ie: pre - match day facilities.. looks like they have done some homework on it and put it inplace, as in the American idea of making it an all day experience as opposed to a two and half hour thing, which is what most, not all, tend to do Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/5382/wael-steve-groundhopping#ixzz4E8OuTiCc.

If Wael can't come to an agreement with the UWE over the freehold of the land there's not a lot he can do? All we can hope is some progress is still being made but, if it's not, we may well have to walk away from a deal if it doesn't appear to have the club's best interests at heart. Another factor is Brexit seems to be having a major effect on commercial property funds, not sure how that effects direct investment in commercial property but like the financial crisis & supermarkets profits collapsing in the past its not something anybody could forecast.

Still waiting for your answers phil you letting your side down

Come on Phil you know I am right

Come on phil I am going to have to put the clock on tick tock

Uwe will not happen as they want to own the right to profits made also they are unable to attract any investors with all his so say billions why the need to get a third party to invest he will start to asset strip in order to get his money back They thought that they was on for 30 million off Sainsbury and would have been a quick profit please answer phil ✔

They can not get the funding from any third party uwe will not happen

How will we all feel if/when Matty Taylor signs for Bristol C*ty?!Ooooooohhhh..... Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/5359/taylor-saga#ixzz4DZ0bItod

Feb 19, 2016 at 11:07pm via mobile Jon the Stripe likes this Quote Post by astafjevs on Feb 19, 2016 at 11:07pm I can't help it, I'm trying to be positive and I totally want the club to succeed, but I can't shake the feeling this is to be good to be true. Reading between the lines it seems UWE is not a formality for the new owners, and I worry we've swapped a bunch of incompetents whose heart was in the club for a bunch we know nothing about. What's to stop them selling the ground and buggering off? I know I'm a miserable sod, but I am desperate to see something impressive from our new owners other than just some well chosen words. An unsuccessful Swansea chairman, Coventry City's accountant, and Watola as CEO isn't quite the stuff I was dreaming of before today's events. There, I've said it. I'm as worried about the future of the club tonight as I was last night. Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/4606/good-true#ixzz4BxP2zmVB

Feb 19, 2016 at 11:07pm via mobile Jon the Stripe likes this Quote Post by astafjevs on Feb 19, 2016 at 11:07pm I can't help it, I'm trying to be positive and I totally want the club to succeed, but I can't shake the feeling this is to be good to be true. Reading between the lines it seems UWE is not a formality for the new owners, and I worry we've swapped a bunch of incompetents whose heart was in the club for a bunch we know nothing about. What's to stop them selling the ground and buggering off? I know I'm a miserable sod, but I am desperate to see something impressive from our new owners other than just some well chosen words. An unsuccessful Swansea chairman, Coventry City's accountant, and Watola as CEO isn't quite the stuff I was dreaming of before today's events. There, I've said it. I'm as worried about the future of the club tonight as I was last night. Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/4606/good-true#ixzz4BxP2zmVB