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2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

What would be good , would be Cardiff pay Nantes what they are due and Nantes donate a proportion to Salas family

If my memory serves me correct, I think this was done in the Dean Horrix case. City paid the full fee of £55,000 and Millwall donated a significant proportion of it to the Horrix family.

I don't know if the £15M fee quoted included add ons which obviously would now mean that the fee Cardiff have to pay is less than that, but still a substantial sum. As others have stated, he is Cardiff's player, if contracts were signed etc then it doesn't matter if he plays for them for 1 match, 100 matches, 20 minutes, 1 minute or no minutes whatsoever. Cardiff bought his contract.

Cardiff are losing face with this 'check the paperwork' stance. There were emotional scenes at their stadium at the last home game. Thus, they have identified Sala as being their player. Had Sala died on his way to signing the contract and was still a Nantes player at the time of passing, Cardiff would have passed on heartfelt condolences but the grief would all have been at Nantes end. 

We paid £55,000 to Millwall for Dean Horrix which was a fair bit for us back in 1990, but at no stage did I hear anything from our end hinting that we would like a chunk of it back due to him only playing 3 games for us. 

3 hours ago, 29AR said:

Feel quite a bit of unease seeing that photograph of the plane underwater and a caption 'body seen in plane'. It feels a bit crass and lacking humility - not digging you out @phantom just the fact it was released. 

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Yeah, glad you can’t see anything (apart from the plane).

The one relatively famous death similar to Sala's in which bodies were located (Glenn Miller's was obviously even more similar as it was in the same stretch of water, but his body/plane was never found) was that of Otis Redding in 1967. As soon as his body was winched to the surface photographs were taken and even a film. These photographs are easily googled. There are even pictures of his body in the morgue still strapped to his seat. 

I'm glad we have greater sensitivity today. It is bad enough the poor lad has died. Images of him in death would compound the shock and make his family feel that his death had become a source of entertainment. 

2 hours ago, Spike said:

This genuinely makes me feel sick, I hate flying, the idea of getting on a plane that looks like it's going to fall apart and then doesn't start, no way I would have got on it.
What I don't understand is why he got on it, surely after making a big money transfer he would have been in a position to say "I don't feel comfortable getting on that plane!". That said, I suppose it's easy to say that with hindsight. I just can't imagine what his father must be thinking right now.

Unfortunately, machismo kicks in. With the Munich Air Crash it was stated afterwards that many on board were apprehensive about boarding the plane a third time after two aborted takeoffs in the snow, yet nobody said that they refuse to get on board. Had someone done so there's a good chance others would've followed the lead. Sometimes the bravest thing of all is to be the first to admit that you are too scared to do something and thus refuse to do it.

Similar machismo kicked in with the deaths in plane crashes of music stars Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper and Richie Valens in 1959 and Otis Redding and the Barkays in 1967. In the latter case, they boarded Redding's private aircraft and, according to the only survivor, were apprehensive when the pilot said that the battery was low but hoped there was enough juice in it (in freezing cold weather) to get them from Cleveland, Ohio to Madison, Wisconsin! Indeed, the heating in the plane couldnt be turned on for this reason. Yet, they all boarded without a whimper.

34 minutes ago, BlueDredd said:

Football is irrelevant on a day like today. A young family man has lost his life after securing himself a new future, and the thought of it makes me sick to my stomach.

Thank you to all the BCFC fans that have sent their thoughts to our club and putting rivalry aside. Despite us not having the chance to see him play, he was a Cardiff City player and a fellow Bluebird nonetheless.

Respect to Bristol City.

 

Our thoughts are with you. When we lost a player in a car crash just three games after we signed him in the 1989-90 season it seemed to galvanize the players who continued with their promotion push and ultimately achieved it. Cardiff can honour what, sadly, seems to be the passing of this player, after a period of reflection, by achieving safety in the Premier League.

Thoughts also go to his family, his football family at Nantes and to the pilot's family.

It isn't looking good for Sala and everyone else on board. In this social media age of swift communication if he was not on board he would have been located and the minds of his friends and family set at ease by now. My thoughts are with everyone on board and their families and friends. 

What a relief. When we signed GON we were told he was brilliant at protecting a scoreline. I can't recall him ever doing that for City. So on he comes for Bolton to protect their lead and fails to do so again. Thank goodness for that. Had it worked I would've been extremely miffed seeing he never achieved that for us.

1 hour ago, Owl Visiting said:

Think it was a stroke of luck that previous opponent falling in the shower, as he'd obviously already fallen out with them before the fight and then missing the weight.

Always think this referee looks like Jim Murphy btw.

49 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

I had to look him up as well,he looks like Gareth Southgate to me

The ref in the Frampton fight looks like Gareth Southgate will in 6 months time.

53 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said:

Went to that game and felt suicidal afterwards. Walking around Ipswich following the game I thought I'd strayed onto the set for "Sean of the Dead" and thought about offering myself as a properly dead crowd extra. You would have thought we had won 5 nil instead of Ipswich. Their fans were zombie fans. What a joyless place

That's because Ipswich had won 6-0 and not 5-0. It would depress me if City beat a team at or near the top of the table 6-0 and the visiting fans thought it was 5-0.

What do the initials DNA stand for?

The National Dyslexic Association.

When I was a school kid I was invited to a mate's house on the river near the tea gardens in Hanham. I was shocked when I got there to find that he was being raised by a pair of swans. He pleaded with me not to say anything as he feared he would be removed from the swans if news of this arrangement got out. Life with them was idyllic.

When it came to the parents evening I wondered how the heck my mate's secret wouldn't get out. I was astounded, therefore, when I suddenly seen the father swan marching into the school on parents evening. He's got some bloody neck, I thought.

Think both sides are trying to say they want the goals increased in size.

I've been an LJ supporter on here, but if we don't pull our fingers out and press for a win in the second half and obtain it, I will be also pressing for a change.

58 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

Combine Harvester...The Wurzels

The first cut is the deepest.

A Roman senator went into a bar and said to the barman, 'I'll have a Martinus, please.'

'Are you sure you don't mean a Martini?' replied the barman.

'Look,' said the senator glaring at the barman, 'If I wanted a double I would bloody well have asked for one!'

I've got a brand new combine harvester.

Hello, I love you.

Papa's got a brand new bag

The Devil went down to Georgia.

2 hours ago, MichaelRobartes said:

The ring walks were nothing compared to Lethal Bizzle. I'll be saying "stay dench" for weeks...

Who is this lethal Bizzle chap? I know I could look it up on Google, but think it will be more fun getting your take on it.

I was really disappointed that the brave tactics of both defeated opponents at the top of the bill didn't garner greater reward. Briggs opponent attempted the mass and sudden exhalation of air from his lungs tactic last employed by James J Corbett v Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897, in which he was deliberately being walloped in the stomach in the hope that the sudden mass evacuation of air would knock Briggs to the canvas. Fair play to the American, he didn't even flinch. Unfortunately, as the Argentinian soon discovered, this tactic cannot be employed for very long before it results in the fighter's own demise.

In the case of Haye, his opponent, unbeaten in 30 fights, relied on the tactic of trying to get Haye to bust his knuckles on his forehead or to damage his toe as his lumbering frame hit the canvas at every given opportunity, each time missing Haye's feet. Apart from this I seen nothing offensively from either opponent. The ringwalks were the only offensive thing on view in my opinion.

When I was really into boxing there were only two world sanctioning bodies the WBC and WBA and fewer weight categories. Thus being a world champ really meant something. Obviously, TF won the version of several sanctioning bodies on Saturday so that counts for something. Like others have commented, I was surprised to see him get the decision effectively in the champ's backyard, but wonder if the English are now getting a reputation for sniffing out anything that isn't above board in the world of sport such as with FIFA. Thus the judges were at pains to score it fairly even accounting for the ref's attempt to put the mockers on it by deducting a point. Had TF been Spanish or something, would probably have been a unanimous pts victory for the champ.

Caption Competition?

 

 

Is there a pole I can run this up?

A lump of black tarmac goes into a pub asks for a pint and then shouts that he's the toughest sonafabitch in the pub. Nobody argues with the statement so he takes his pint and sits down next to his mate.

A stretch of Red tarmac then enters the pub asks for a pint and shouts that he's the toughest sonafabitch in the pub. Nobody argues so he goes and sits down.

The mate of the black tarmac then says to the black tarmac ' here, I reckon you're tougher than him,  so why didn't you say anything?'

'No way,' replies the black tarmac, 'I ain't having nothing to do with him...he's a bloody cycle path!'