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And three more defeats will mean that on January first, we're looking up from the bottom six.

Lost on pens v Reading.

I keep referring back to 1979-80 in Div One. Remember 2pts a win and 1 a draw. End of November we had 16 PTS from 17 games. Seventeen games later at end March we had 23 PTS. We never recovered and we all know what followed. So while I'm trying not to believe it can't happen again, we have to start collecting winning points. Draws aren't good enough now as 3 PTS a win can work wonders for those at the bottom now.

You will be worried if this continues into January. A novice manager at this level!

Sorry Harry, while I recognise that your knowledge of the game is excellent. I don't have that experience on the pitch but as one who has seen 8 promotions and 7 relegations, I can smell the latter from a long way off. The air is not quite that bad yet but continuing this to the end of December will bring a real stink to the New Year.

I have no idea whether his way of informing us is too technical or not for those outside of the dressing room. What I think is much more relevant to whether Manning will be a successful Head Coach or not as his previous very limited experience as HC or Manager. The nearest other City manager to him and his experience of being the boss, was Alan Dicks. Young, picked up much of his experience from Jimmy Hill and he struggled to keep us up for four to five seasons with a pittance spent on incoming transfers, before coming good with the team he had built. Can we wait for Manning that long? An owner who is clearly no longer willing to spend his billions on anything but promising Third and Fourth Division younger players.

Sorry for misprint in last sentence. 100 years only. Glos Cup are in that book.

Considering that Liverpool totally outplayed us while winning promotion in season before last, and with Liverpool having tons more money to spend, an away draw is an excellent result. Well done City Women.

Bristol City a complete record 1894-1987 is a start. Author David M Woods Friendlies also recorded in David Woods book The Bristol Babe - The first 200 years in 1994.

1950's Atyeo 1960's Atyeo 1970's Gerry Gow 1980's Rob Newman 1990's Andy Cole 2000's Marvin Elliott 2010's Joe Bryan

No Tanner at lb? Or 3-5-2?

Minute possibly for Terry Venables as their first home game since he died.

I did spot it after I posted. The David Smith was a left footed left winger, who was also a very good left arm fast bowler for Glos CCC in 1950/60's and who played in five Test matches for England. @richwwtk

Where is Atyeo's signature? I have an autograph book with the 1955 promotion team with one exception - Arthur Milton.

It will be even angrier IF the slow drop from higher up the table becomes a slide downwards. What will we all think when QPR or Wednesday overtake us?

He didn't play square but ran around in circles every time he had the ball. Trouble with that is that he quickly became very giddy and lost the ball a lot.

I am wondering about the changes to our tactics and their implementation. With LJ and I also think Manning will be the same, the players have to follow the plan(s) set by the manager. The big difference with Pearson was that while there were plans, the players were also encouraged to think for themselves. So perhaps in the latter stages v Norwich, instead of all out attack the players might have stayed tighter at the back, by doing so, encouraging Norwich to come at us and hit them on the break for the winner. There are many ways to win a football match but is throwing all ten outfield players up to their penalty area is possibly not one of them. Having said that we've been done at home in the last minute at least twice. Norwich and Stoke while NP was here. We are perhaps, just unable to see games out especially at home.

He has almost everything going for him and his last twenty years must have gleaned and learnt a mass of data and tactics. So his knowledge is not in doubt. But how good a manager of professional footballers is he? That remains to be seen and we all know that hardened pros can be a real handful if they choose to not join in. And unlike many other industries, they will be able to dig in, enjoy the pay and do sod all to comply. How he deals with that, if it happens, will determine his success on the field.

The only thing I buy there is a cup of tea £2.25. The rest is a collection of poor food and expensive drinks. With Sainsbury's and other food retailers just outside, and local pubs at both ends of the ground, I fail to see how anyone would go inside the ground for food or drink.

When did owners and very senior people in business and politics ever worry about lying to employees, customers and the general public?

As one who bought £90 of shares, my total savings then, I just wanted to save the club. A year or two later when Cooper got us back in third tier, I did wonder how long it would take to get back to the First Division. When Jordan got us back to Second, I honestly thought that we'd give it a good go to go back. But he left and it's drifted along for the last thirty years. Now at 80 years, it probably won't happen for me as it is so obvious that the Lansdown reign is more interested in building money making property developments than getting top league football to Bristol.

For every team that goes from the bottom six to the top six during the course of a season, there's one that goes the other way! So we should not be complacent. It happened to us in 1979-80.

Today was a replica of several previous home games this season. Take a lead first half, while the opponents are still having a good look at us and working out how to play the more important second half. They equalise within minutes of the second half starting. About ten minutes from time, City go on all out attack and lose with a sloppy defensive play in the last couple of added time minutes. The comedian on another thread who said the bottom three were already down a couple of weeks ago will still be laughing at the end of April/early May?

Just like LJ?

Nobody is relegated or promoted as early as first of December. Ask Swindle fans!