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1 hour ago, brad blit said:

I know this wouldn’t happen, but currently I’m in the ‘won’t renew’ section (I’m not sure either what City/Manning can do to change my mind) and I was wondering if City would contact previous season tickets holders after the deadline date and asked why we didn’t renew?

Maybe not for people who have only been season ticket holders for a short time, but surely for someone like myself who’s been a season ticket for 21 years they would like to hear my opinions on what has changed this year? 

Imagine trying to cancel a Bank or Sky account after 21 years, they would be offering all sorts of things to keep you as a customer, which is essentially what we all are at City now.

 

I really doubt that will happen. Apart from 8 years when I lived in Portugal (but had one for the season after Wembley defeat) I have had a season ticket since 1966/7 season. But I don't think that will register with the club who don't appear to care about us at all. We come for some entertainment, to meet fellow City fans and support the team whether in Top or Bottom league.

Since last October, I have not been entertained in any way and the backwards/sideways tactics just send most of us to sleep.

I feel so sad but it's going to take something extraordinary from the club to persuade me to renew. I'd get more entertainment watching little children playing football on the Burnham beach.

4 hours ago, Red Moseley said:

In tonight's Bristol Post James Piercy says it is the first time that City have reached the FA Youth Cup semi final. This is not true, City lost to Chelsea, the eventual winners, in 1959/60 losing both legs 3 - 0. I attended the home leg as a 12 year old having just moved to Ashton Road by the ground I got 4 autographs of the Chelsea team - Venables, Bonetti, Tambling and Dennis Harkness (I know - who!!!)

I was also at the Chelsea match at Ashton Gate and still have the programme. We got Terry Bush, Jantzen Derrick, Brian Clark and Lou Peters as regular first teams and also Adrian Williams who played only one or two for the first team.

I also was at the Ipswich home game.

Would dearly like to be at Man City. Is it a one or two legs semi final?

2 hours ago, redsquirrel said:

maybe he is working for ipswich town now and not mark ashton.  2 totally different businesses. over there its not all about him,'i did this,i did that'  every week.

I see Ipswich and Norwich as very similar clubs to Bristol City. None of us are in heavy industrial areas like a Blackburn, Sunderland, Sheffield Wed / Utd. But as far as football is concerned that is where the similarities end.

For the last sixty/seventy years, and that while the persons have changed, we have bumbled along in second and third tiers, four years excepted in Div One and two in Div Four. While in that time Ipswich and Norwich have won trophies and played in European Cups, Ipswich even winning First Division. Managers at both clubs who were allowed funds to manage success. Ipswich even helped in the careers of two England managers. They don't spend massive money on transfer fees but always seem to have better quality than City.

So how did it take so long for Lansdown to get us out of Div3 until he got GJ. Because he hasn't got the football brain to pick decent managers. And when by accident he does get a Cottrell and a Pearson, he can't bully them into his non football brain.

That's why we are more likely to end up in League One/Two than Premier.

14 hours ago, AshtonGreat said:

Care to elaborate?

Haha are you serious?

Yes.

3 hours ago, Steve Watts said:

Manning is doing a lot behind closed doors as well....sadly none of it is positive and the only thing this whole failed experiment has succeeded in is creating division between fans and the club and between fans and other fans. 

Supporting this club has never felt so difficult as it does now.  Usually you can find some things to be positive about. Youth coming through, players playing with pride even if they're not getting the rub of the green etc, but right now there's literally nothing.  Zero. Zilch. Nada.  And it's bloody soul destroying it really is. 

I've given over 40 years of my life to supporting this club.  Others have given even more. But I have never in those 40+ years felt as despondent as I do now.

I suppose the worst time was at Newport when we thought it was the last ever match for City. That lasted a few days, I bought £90 of shares, and the draw against Fulham with the nursery boys put us back on line. Even being 92nd in Div Four the next season cannot match what I am seeing with this person who couldn't coach rats to steal from a bird table.

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

You’d think they will be looking at ST holders who usually renew in the opening x days and haven’t this time around, if numbers are out of kilter overall.

If that is their thinking, I got a text as I usually renew before lunch on first day. I think they could be waiting a long time for me to renew. I never conceived that I'd do this. Wait and see what happens.

1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

What when we used the previous managers tactics?

Manning is a fraud, he is not a good coach, he's led the squad into a bigger regression then any other manager in our entire history, 

Very good statement. I go back to 1950 and there's only two that I can think of that were worse for confidence and team spirit.

Peter Doherty in 1958 and Pulis.

Even SO'D and McInnes had some good spells and tried to play football.

13 hours ago, AshtonGreat said:

 

I'm prepared to give him the summer and maybe the first dozen games of next season. If there are no real signs of improvement/progress by then, I'll accept that he isn't right for the job

The biggest problem with that length of time into next season, is that sitting at the bottom of the Championship table with 3 to 6 points out of thirty six (36) means that we will be absolute certainties for relegation!

Do it now gives the next manager time to rebuild and regenerate the playing staff and their confidence. I don't mean getting a lot of new faces in but getting those already here to regain confidence and tactics.

Well done Ivor keep the red, red robin bouncing along.

Thanks to Jerry for looking after him.

1 hour ago, Capman said:

Manning out yes, but it’s not the long term answer. Jon has to step down as Chairman and BT needs to be demoted too. I suspect there is some very difficult musical chairs needed over the next few weeks if we are to have any chance of promotion next season. The current structure and people are absolutely not fit for purpose. 
Personally if I were Steve I would announce King to manage to end of the season, Jon had decided to stand down as chair to pursue his other business interests but would stay on the board and the search was on for a new Chairman who would lead the recruitment of a new manager. 

That is what should occur but we all know it won't happen.

10.05 am and they are already sending reminders for us to renew 9 months of watching a load of garbage.

11 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

Where is Big Joe these days?

Either still about 2 miles from Clifton or perhaps now in Clifton.

55 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

I know it’s already been said, but it really does show what a pickle we’ve put ourselves in when Andy King taking charge seems a relatively exciting option.

My only concern would be that he’d get a bit of a bounce and then be given the job permanently despite not being ready for it. He may absolutely be ready for it, of course, but you wouldn’t want a few decent results to create a false impression.

We all know we’ve been there more than once and you couldn’t trust the board to not make the same mistake a third time.

Yes, he'd be a novice manager.

But he could and probably would, get a senior almost retired manager as his ASSISTANT. Plenty around. One in Looe and another if he's not moved back up north in Nailsea.

Even Big Joe Jordan is a local resident.

12 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

What follows is not about anything other than what I feel is in the best interests of Bristol City Football Club.  Having supported my team for 60+ years I’m not about to waste any energy on blaming, finger-pointing or bad mouthing anybody.

I acknowledge and respect that as the major shareholder and the individual who has invested millions in our club, Mr. Lansdown is the key decision-maker. In reality the views of us fans count for very little, nevertheless this is a fans forum, so here goes.

On the evidence of the last 27 games LM is not the person to take Bristol City forward. Having watched each of these games I have seen a team and individuals regress and observed a very rigid and repetitive approach from the Head Coach, in terms of his in-game management, general demeanor and public statements.

When he was appointed, I was prepared to give him until the end of the season in the hope that he was the man to take us forward. I have now changed my mind.

I see absolutely no benefit in retaining his services. In fact, I would hope the hierarchy are seriously considering relieving him of his duties in this international break.

There would, in my opinion, be a few real positives if they did so.

• they would regain some respect from the fan base, many of whom were disaffected by the sacking of Pearson
• a new manager or Head Coach would have the rest of this season to assess the squad and plan for the future. Although the hierarchy clearly stated that we had a squad capable of competing at the top end of the Championship at the time of Manning’s appointment, that is not what has happened
• With eight games to go, we effectively have nothing to play for this season, however, the next eight games could be vitally important in terms of informing our approach to next season. I would certainly hope that is with somebody new at the helm.

Had we not sneaked a narrow win against Swansea City (with another poor home performance) the pressure on LM would be even greater.

Now is the time to act.

 

I completely agree with all of your comments. If he is still here at New Year 2025, we will be absolute certainties for relegation.

If he is still here on the last day for us to renew our Season Tickets, I will not renew as I feel the current situation could damage us much more than 1982.

@Jerseybean

I was impressed with Coventry because they hardly used the "sideways and backwards" method of play. And it paid off very well.

17 minutes ago, Ben1980 said:

Great post. It’s not rocket science - don’t get why he doesn’t at least try to connect with fans. 

Probably for the same reason as the owners don't contact. We are not professional football coaches so he doesn't know how to keep us informed or involved. We're just the rabble who knows nothing about coaching who turn up, year in year out hoping to be entertained.

9 minutes ago, phantom said:

Problem being a full Atyeo away end is a big money maker for the club

 

SL only interested in money and couldn't care less about the main reason for the club's existence.

35 minutes ago, phantom said:

 

Just to reply to these two comments, for those that didn't see Jon Darch's post on here a few week back, he has met with the club about the possibility of expanding safe standing areas with the ground - for those that don't know Jon he is behind the National safe standing campaign so we are lucky to have him as a supporter of us

In addition to that there is a small subcommittee who meet with senior club officials on a couple of issues, one of them is the possibility to enhance the atmosphere and viewing experience at AG8

At the moment we are in the early stages of this, we are meeting next Wednesday where we will discuss how improvements can be made, Jon and SC&T Chairman Stu Rogers have written a concise document on how the atmosphere can be improved and has already been shared with the club

Following these discussions we hope that the club buy into the fact that something needs to be done to improve our atmosphere

Then, BEFORE anything is done the club WILL liaise with all supporters about any proposed changes.

IF the demand is there for any change the club will then liaise with anyone that could be impacted by any changes, ONLY then will it move forward

IF the demand isn't there, then nothing will happen, if too many people don't agree with any potential changes it will NOT happen

Again this is in the early stages, but the wheels are in motion with the end goal of improving our matchday atmosphere and viewing experience

Sod all will happen while Lansdown Senior owns the club!!!

13 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

It was at last some truth from the top. 
My club you peasants. I’ll do what I like with it , from afar of course. 
 

It's now clearly obvious to me that SL doesn't give a toss about the results of all clubs, City, City Women, Bears and Bears Women. Basketball is totally irrelevant!

All he cares about is profit from construction of buildings! We could end up in National South and he wouldn't bcare.

On 12/03/2024 at 12:41, 22A said:

City travel to The Hawthorns on Saturday 16th March.

For those of us old enough; who will ever forget 17th March 1976?  Not the highest scoring win of the season, but the most important.

Second half siege of the City goal at the Brummie Road end of the Hawthorns. Almost as good a night as a year later at Coventry.

PS. Four of us went by car. Parked and got to the Hawthorn's pub which was absolutely heaving with red and white. One of our four, got down on his hands and knees, disappearing into the bar. Returned three minutes later with four pints, or nearly as some got spilled on the way back.

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

I did live through it, I saw pretty much every home game in the 79/80 season, went home & away in the 80-81 season, saw the vast majority of games in 81/82.

It was shit but “this it could be worse” stuff really winds me up.

This is the equivalent of “we could be Watford & keep changing out manager” or “we could have Vincent Tan”, we’re mediocre, have achieved far less than those 2 clubs & it is simply because of our owner.

A lot of us did. The 1-7 defeat at Northampton was watched on a Sunday afternoon by, I was there, by around 2,500 City fans. When we scored at 0-5, my wife laughed when she told me to sit down and shut up.

The standing City fans gave the boys, and many of them were under 19, a rousing departure from the pitch at the end of the game. Proud of the boys and the old uns like Ritchie.

He will sell sooner or later. My fear is that he will sell City but keep the ownership of the stadium which means that we cannot use the non football income toward FFP.

I used to respect SL but don't trust him one iota any more.

11 hours ago, Harry said:

Tinnion tells us he was the best player in Ireland. 
He also tells us in yesterdays interview that he hasn’t featured yet as he is still in “pre season” as the Irish league only finished in November!! 
 

November mind!! 
 

His last game was 3rd November. So he’s had 4 months and 10 days off so far. 
This would be the equivalent of it now being 18th September if you take the same number of days since we ended our season on 8th May. 

Interestingly, the other “best player in Ireland” (my opinion), Jack Moylan, also finished on 3rd November but has now made 10 appearances for Lincoln. They gradually integrated him and he’s now started the last 2 and scored 4 goals. A couple of ‘wow’ goals too. 
 

Anyway, my point is, 2 players who finished the Irish season on 3rd November. 1 has now made 10 league 1 appearances, the other is so-say still in pre-season and hasn’t even had a single minute for our under 21’s. 

What’s REALLY going on with him?? Is Brian telling us porkies again. There’s no way this kid is still in early pre season mode. Why has he not played a single minute for the 21’s at the very least?? 

I have just had the displeasure of reading the Post, or whatever they are named these days.

I found it rather shallow in all respects. I won't nit pick all the things he trotted out but I seriously cannot give it any credence. Compare it with what is produced by most other clubs and it is so amateurish.

Confirms my belief that at Bristol City we'd like to be successful whereas at many other clubs, they are determined that promotion, trophies and success will be achieved. Those former top tier clubs now in League One and Championship are adamant that their place in the top tier will be recovered soon.

Not like City where we seem very content with mid/lower Championship 44 years since we dropped out of the First Division.

As one City chairman in mid 90's said "We like being the big fish in the Third Division rather than a minnow in the Second tier!

14 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

This Cliff, this.

When my dad was given the news that his cancer was terminal it was in the Covid period. I remember him crying, and one of the things him saying was that he’d never get to Ashton Gate again. And he didn’t - he was gone before the grounds reopened. His name and memory for me is all over the ground though and I feel closer to him there than anywhere else.

It’s what you love. And it’ll be what you love irrespective of what’s served up because it’s a huge part of your life. I’d renew if I were you, come what may.

@Silvio Dante

@CliftonCliff

SD you've just started me crying. It's the same for me because Dad took me there when I was six. He'd seen City a few times before WW1, when visiting relatives in Bristol. When he moved from Rhondda to Filton he was an instant City fan. Took me all over the country to see them.

I don't want to stop going but it really is complete dross and do I want to sit there watching backwards and sideways in Div 3.

14 hours ago, CliftonCliff said:

I know, I know. Lansdown, when it comes right down to it (dare I say, in his DNA), is a money man, not a football man. It’s the only language he really understands and responds to, in the end.
 

But I AM a football man. I’m also getting into my late seventies and can’t know ho many more seasons I will see. So am I to walk away, in order to force SL’s hand in some way? And how, exactly? How many other supporters will be willing to do likewise? How many would it take to have an impact on the owner’s behaviour? Do we actually believe that a drastic fall in the number of people attending will actually bring about change, given that they appear to be incapable of making a sound decision? It’s not as simplistic as your comment implies, though I’m with you in spirit.

I'm the same as you. 81 in July, supporting City has been a very significant part of my life. I'm giving up my ST for Bears as travel to Bristol is more tiring every year.

As for City, I've always jokingly said that when I can't go to games, screw the lid down and light the fire. But I never expected that we'd have such a sad bunch running the club as SL, baby SL Tinman and Manning. I don't want to see my eighth relegation so am seriously thinking of  not renewing.