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5 hours ago, blockbrowt1 said:

Was there before the Lansdowns and will be there when they've gone. God willing of course

I've seen worse teams than this and worse financial times but the reasons were that nobody with real cash was there at the time. If any real City supporter had the £ billions that he has,they wouldn't worry about the spending £10 million per year in a way that he seems to.

As for renewing ST. I'm 81 in July, and have physically supported City since 1950. But the shambles of the last five months of backwards and sideways tactics sending most of us to sleep, tells me it's time to call it a day and that I should find other ways of spending my time while I'm still well and active.

Now able to watch on phone insread of laptop. City are pathetic. Swansea are not much better, but are more likely to find a way to goal.

Please Manning, go now!

I've paid twice for TV tickets and can't get the game. TV as bad as the team.

3 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Other than NW they all looked deeply worried!

https://t.co/mgvLer4zNi

Wow, they don't seem relaxed in the correct way to be an hour or more before a match. I don't like this.

28 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

It’s an interesting topic. I don’t necessarily think it’s new managers per se but the new “breed” of managers (i.e. coaches with limited playing experience) who are having a lot of trouble across the board, even having had some success elsewhere.

If you read the Oxford forum it’s a mirror of ours re Des Buckingham post Liam. I’d also throw in the new Notts County boss who came from Wealdstone and had no real playing background.

The compare/contrast here is Mousinho at Pompey. He’d be seen as included in that new breed, but had a solid if unspectacular playing career and was also the head of the PFA so you’d argue really understood the players mindset.

Rooney proves that being a great player doesn’t make you a great manager. But I think that there has been a trend to employing a certain type of coach. And there will be some that are good, but the law of diminishing returns is what you’re seeing.

And we had a proven quality manager of his staff and players, yet the three clowns got rid of him to take on a total novice.

10 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Weymouth in March !!!!!

It's complicated. We do house swap holidays and it's the return for one in Amsterdam last year. Dutch were at another house in Germany so the return swap is now. So we picked out Weymouth as ok for 10:days now. It's actually Portland and the gales haven't stopped since we arrived last Wednesday. Fxxcking freezing.

No. On holiday in Weymouth so will watch on TV.

And me bumping

8 hours ago, Robbored said:

It’s really disappointing that we’re discussing the points needed to avoid the drop…….where has it gone wrong?………

That's a dumb question to ask. Pretty obvious isn't it? 

Junior Lansdown and Tinman are the reason.

8 minutes ago, ray savino said:

We will win 3-1. Scorers Conway, Vyner, Twine for City. Grimes for Swansea. 

Who is Twine? Or is it Thrice? Can he play football?

I thought he was on a convalescent holiday in the south west as the sun doesn't shine in north east Lancashire until June!

36 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

We're not mentioned in the article. Probably because we're not in a relegation battle.

Not? OR Not yet?

So City will stay out of it until we need to beat Stoke in the last match of the season to stay up?

Bristol City under 18's. Well done to make the semi final. First time in a very long time.

Is semi one or two legs?

Is game over? Still 1-0 to City

On 05/03/2024 at 09:19, ollywhyte said:

Just posting on the off chance someone can help me out here.

Im a Plymouth based City fan (Dad is from Clevedon but moved here with the Royal Navy) - I’m not a season ticket holder this year so ultimately I’m going to have zero chance of any tickets for the Argyle away game.

Is there anyone not planning on going to this one that could help me get 2-4 tickets? I’d love to be able to take my Dad (and hopefully two brothers) as he doesn’t always get chance to watch City much anymore. 

If anyone can help I’m more than happy to pay over the odds, contribute to a a charity of choice etc. Obviously details not released just yet but thought I’d ask early.

Thought it was worth an ask anyway, cheers fellow reds!

 

As you live locally and are hardly likely to be going there to cause trouble, get tickets in the home seats. Perhaps go there on one of their hospitality deals.

You won't have to worry about what to do if we score as that is extremely unlikely.

9 hours ago, reddogkev said:

So, Manning is not a coach I would have hired and its fair to say he's been a mixed bag so far.  Some great wins, good cup performances and already has a string of crap losses to his name.  He seems to have a lack of consistency at the moment.  

But looking at things in a different way, with this being his first stint at Championship football and the fact he's young and inexperienced, he's bound to be developing and should be much better next season.  What are the chances of him being the right man to drive the club on?

I remain confident that If we approach the remaining ten games like last night, we'll still be in the Championship, although we need to beat Swansea on Sunday to ease the concern.

When it comes to Manning, right now, I want him to show more passion and develop some character, and after a defeat, take the loss on the chin, admit his own mistakes, and stand up for the team no matter what.

He's got about eight weeks to make absolutely certain that we are not relegated. Can he manage 7 or 8 points to guarantee?

I'm doubtful!

Who gives a fxxx who is manager at Manure?

23 hours ago, Ziderarmy said:

After todays “performance” the stats now read -

 

Played = 21

Won = 6

Drew = 5

Lost = 10

Points per game = 1.09

Over a 46 game seasons that’s 50 points and relegation. 

Win percentage = 28%

Summary

Top 6 squad (so were told) playing bottom 6 (possible relegation) football 

 For me, we are a certainty for going down, the eighth relegation of my time following City.

Last evening, my wife came into room where I was listening to RB.

What's the score? 2-1 to City.

She replied that they'll probably lose 3-2! And I thought you've got it right!

10 hours ago, RollsRoyce said:

Just put King in temp charge. He knows the players, the set up. The only option if something is needed this season. 

Well said and I agree 100%.

Though maybe not on a long term basis as the Number One. But as a number Two? 

16 hours ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

Stats happened, someone somewhere down the line pointed out the a left footer playing on the right cutting inside creates better chances cutting inside than a traditional winger going on the outside! Can’t remember the article I seen it in though! 

There is nothing new in a left footed winger playing at outside right. The great Tom Finney was the best example.

And at City Jantzen Derrick was a right footer playing on the left wing.

Where the game changed dramatically was when Alf Ramsey changed tactics when he made the touchline huggers do more defensive work. Working with the full backs and wing halves to lessen opponents attempts on their own goal.

The game of football changed forever from one in which the idea was to score goals, goals and more goals to being very happy to win 1-0 every match.

Ideal for those coaches who can't think for themselves. We have the perfect example at Bristol City.

10 hours ago, Harry said:

See I don’t actually think the model whereby a ‘club’ has an ‘identity’ and an ‘alignment’ is actually the best one. 
 

There’s a helluva lot of talk about Brighton, Brentford and Swansea and the models that they put in place to gain promotion. 
 

But let’s not forget the other clubs that got promoted. Very few of them had a long term plan/vision. They just employed a bloody good manager or had a boat load of cash. 

Here’s the list of managers who have been promoted to the premier league since our playoff defeat vs Hull in 2007/8 :

Mick McCarthy, Alex MacLeish, Owen Coyle, Chris Hughton (twice), Roberto Di Matteo, Ian Holloway (twice), Neil Warnock (twice), Paul Lambert, Brendan Rogers, Brian McDermott, Nigel Adkins, Sam Allardyce, Malky Mackay, Steve Bruce (twice), Nigel Pearson, Sean Dyche (twice), Harry Redknapp, Eddie Howe, Slavisa Jokanovic (twice), Alex Neil, Aitor Karanka, Rafa Benitez, David Wagner, Nuno, Daniel Farke (twice), Chris Wilder, Dean Smith, Marcelo Bielsa, Slaven Bilic, Scott Parker (twice), Xisco, Thomas Frank, Marco Silva, Steve Cooper, Vincent Kompany, Paul Heckingbottom, Rob Edwards. 
 

There’s a lot of what you might call ‘old school’ managers in that list. There’s also a lot of guys who were relatively unknown foreigners (but for the most part I understand they either had experience at a good level abroad either as number 1 or number 2). 
Yes, parachute money played a part in a number of these promotions, but for every club with parachute money that did well, there were others who failed (maybe because of poor managerial appointments?). 
 

But aside from Brentford, Brighton and Swansea, I can’t point to any of those teams promoted in the last 15 years as having a standout ‘identity’. 
They mostly employed an experienced manager or a manager with a background which could be respected, allowed that manager to dictate what he wanted, and threw a bit of money at it. 
 

We seem to be the only club who thinks we can get promoted by doing it a completely different way to everyone else. 

I’m sorry - I wanted it work out, but the appointment of Manning is looking increasingly ridiculous given the above list of managers. 
Compared to pretty much every name on that list, Manning is an amateur. 
 

Our model absolutely feckin stinks. 

@Harry

Thanks for your accurate opinion. If Manning, Tinnion and the Lansdowns stay here, I can see Division Four or even lower coming very quickly.

After 74 years being a City supporter, I don't want to see this dross any more. Somebody required to screw the lid down please.

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I can't see the logic.

In the past two decades SL has never been trigger happy and never sacked a full time contracted manager with less than 25 games in charge. As it stands ( and things can change either way) we are not in the relegation zone and unlikely to become so. People wanting us to lose so that LM gets the chop is silly and ,for some, seems to be a matter of proving they were right at any cost to the club. IMO, of course.

I wonder how you can be so sure that we're unlikely to drop into the bottom three.

Continue like we are and it's a cast iron certainty that we'll end up in the relegation dogfight.

And while the Blades are getting hammered this evening, we could be on the end of a very similar situation tomorrow.

I really do hope that doesn't happen. I never want City to lose in any match, whoever the opposition are, football or tiddly winks and however much I believe that we need to change this head coach for a manager with the skill and experience to pick us up.

16 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

 

IF we don't sort our shit out there are enough games to leave us in the shit! Very improbable though. 

Very improbable?

Don't kid yourself, keep losing and we will be well and truly in the scrap to stay up. And those that have been in the bottom four or five all season will be well aware of how to fight for points. Whereas we've been comfortable in mid table all the season.

6 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Think you can add the fans to that, never known such a quiet tame atmosphere for a derby game, or perhaps blame the players performance, where were the blood and thunder tackles, maybe its  a chicken and egg question, do the players need to get the fans going or do the fans help to get the players going, either way its on a downward spiral, but easy to sit back and blame everyone else 

I consider that it's pretty nigh impossible to get excited about City in matches.

Why? Because it's sideways and backwards passing. It is so rare for any City move starting with a forward pass into the middle of midfield and that means no noise from any of our supporters.

58 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

We should be OK. Even our current form should see us through. However if that form gets worse then thats where we have to start worrying. 

 

 

I hope that you are correct. All I hope, I don't pray, not religious, is that it doesn't depend on a win at Stoke to send them down instead of us!  Anyone else realised this possible scenario?