Fjmcity

6 minutes ago, Capman said:

I don’t recall him saying he would not accept a new contract? In fact just the opposite. There was no need to change and the consequences for that change rest with those who made it. 
I certainly do not agree that things were ‘going sour’. In fact my view is that without this change we would still be in contention for the playoffs. 

It seemed likely it would come to an end, great job done by NP but there wasn’t much to signal (in my opinion) that he would take us to the next level.. I should also add LM has not provided any indication of that either

we would be fighting for playoffs Based on what? the capitulation based on the same data set from last season seems to suggest we wouldn’t be 

Granted the ppt is worse this season but still, after a positive start (again) things were looking like they were going stale, if we are going to look at the stats you could summarise the board could see a repeat of the previous season and that’s why they rolled the dice? 

He was always going to leave at the end of the season and we needed something more long term. Why not now (October) because things were starting to go sour

Ps. That’s a good tool you found! Even if it does help bring real history into sharper focus which I understand may be painful 

Embarrassing thread, yet again 

Little ipswich. Ipswich tbf have a league pedigree we could only dream of :laugh:

And what they are doing now is exactly what we did in 08. And where have Ipswich been in those 16 years? Oh yeh in the ******* wilderness. 72 other teams trying to hit on the right formula in a similar way to us. You just dont see their failures so you think it’s magic dust when it comes together. Ipswich have mark Ashton, should we be employing people like him?

“We gave it a go” is obviously used because we are bereft of form, it a state of flux (understatement) and Ipswich have been in the top 3 all season.

Wah wah when’s it our turn, I want what the other boys have 

5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

@Fjmcity judging by his last post 

Haha it’s been said before mate.

but look at this little topic - how lovely, a witch-hunt 

28 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Reaction at the end makes me wonder..that was rather hostile.

It should be, I actually couldn’t make it yesterday but heard  it was absolute crap and because of that as hostile reaction is approrpiate - things are not not going well.

People shouldn’t be happy, I’m not happy but it’s the intense anger and hate that is just plain weird. I’d get it if we were owned by the guy who owns reading and the club was being asset stripped but that’s quite obviously not the case, I believe have well intentioned owners who have shoveled 100x million of their hard earned into the club to to get **** all. I am sure that is embarrassing and the way they are acting is probably some result of that. The demonisation of tinnion and the lansdowns is actually an embarrassment to anyone who parrots it. The rule for the forum is attack the post not the poster right? Doesn’t seem that extends to the situation with our club owners.

is them selling the only answer? Could any protest or dissent be organised to encourage the changes we might like to see at the club? I don’t see why this has to be beyond reconciliation as so many say. I wish there could be slightly more nuance on this forum, look at the top topics. Each and everyone of them some level and variations of OTT anger or LOUD NOISES. Each and everyone of them not happy until the lansdowns sell, but what happens when we are 14th with the new owners, do we want them to sell again and become one of those football clubs and lose our soul in a different way to how people believe we are losing our soul now?

god knows what the answer is but this is just insane 

13 hours ago, spudski said:

....from everyone in it together, players and fans under NP, all pulling together, getting it, fighting, respect, understanding...a feeling of we are all pulling in the same direction. A feeling of togetherness. Fighting, supportive, but respectful and knowing our ability and limits. 

To this bullshit within a few months. 

Talk about not understanding football, your fanbase, and totally thinking you and the squad are better than they are. 

Delusional. 

It's a reflection of how many in Government/Politics read and understand the country and what's needed. 

In it for themselves...out of their depth and massively delusional. 

The fact a fan base can see it, call it...but our ' leaders' can't is stunning.

' Tecknically and Proffesionally ' sp inept. 

 

*figuratively

they have figuratively lost the support of a couple hundred angry angry men on an internet forum.

quite a few more outside it, I grant you that I am sure but there’s also quite a lot of people that are aware this is not the end of days 

6 hours ago, Lew-T said:

Luton, Brighton, Brentford, Palace, Sheff Utd, Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea, Cardiff, Hull…

Shall we go on?

No because I actually reckon you have run out. Maybe Huddersfield! 

How can people be this angry 

Out, out or just out?

1 minute ago, Sir Geoff said:

So you honestly think that if Medube wasn't here and Bell now injured that there wouldn't be a place for a pacy 17 Yr old with Championship experience on the bench.

Mebude should be further on in his ability/education then EY but is also young and presumably hungry to prove something and we do need to still sign players for the first team as this is just a fact of football. Early showings suggest he might not be the “the one” but willing to give him more time but that would be the thinking, he really will be further forward on his journey even if first showings haven’t demonstrated that.
 

EY has had that time and that has shown he clearly needs more game time and experience so loan makes perfect sense at another level to acclimatise to men’s football where the pressures might not be so great.

the way I see loan signings like twine and mebude is not a blocking of the pathway but a case of, yes you hope and plan that they will strengthen you in the mean time but it gives you a example of what type of player you might want on a perm and how that fits in the system. So for example with twine - great he works in that system so let’s get twine or similar for next year. Same with mebude. And this covers transfers or picking from the academy, I hope after some more first team football it is EY

Never an exact science though when factors like injury come in to play of course. Mebude can’t be as bad as he was against QPR so let’s see how that improves 

3 hours ago, Gol said:

I am really struggling to understand this viewpoint that Manning is blocking the pathway.  there are plenty of valid concerns about how things are going,  without making ones up.

Seb - can't blame this one on Manning, he was loaned out when Pearson was in charge

Yeboah was in the squad due to injury issues within the squad at the start of the season. He did not look up to the pace  of the Championship at that time. this is not a knock on the lad as he is 17! he needs to experience mans football. Hopefully he does well then and can get a loan into the football league next season IMO, then maybe at the ripe old age of 19 he might be read for the 1st team squad!

Most players go out on loan to experience men's football before making it into our first team, the only exception has been Alex Scott who lets be honest is a generational talent.

Conway went to Bath on loan, Semenyo - Newport & Sunderland, Bell - Grimsby, even Zak, Max and  Cam have all had quite a few  each before establishing themselves in the first team 

Don’t worry, I was very much joking based on other baseless comments about me manning “blocking the pathway”

Should be in the squad right now, another pathway being blocked by manning

1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said:

It might. Did you read the part of the post where I said I didn’t have a problem with the loan in isolation but it added concern to the thematic?

The basic is that Liam has moaned - several times - about not having time on the grass but when he has opportunity to work with the squad he sends the player out. When you add to the lack of bringing players through prior, it doesn’t scream a coach who wants to use or develop the academy except out of necessity.

And to repeat. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LOAN IN ISOLATION!!!

Stop sitting on the fence dammit! Do you have a problem with the loan? Please consider this question especially when viewed in isolation!

Is there really a story here? Yeboah was surely only ever involved due to a pretty serious injury crisis and showed himself to be raw and not ready for championship football. 

i worry he was then used by Pearson to make some point but I won’t dwell on that because I think a lot of things “at the end” were a little unsavoury.

he may offer the same as mehmeti going forward but there is a level of maturity you need to work as a team in the championship which mehmeti will offer over Yeboah in terms of game management - even if that is debatable what that game management is at times at the moment!

just like all our current academy products currently making up a large % of our first team, loans are important and a good opportunity for him to excel at a level that is hopefully a way below his ceiling to improve and have a career at BCFC.

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4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Sorry mate but for a lot of us football is a massive part of our lives. It's not just football, it's way more than that. It's a significant emotional and financial investment. 

For over the past five years it has been total dross by and large. It takes its toll dragging ourselves up to Ashton Gate every other week to watch crap. 

Huge part of mine too, I wouldn’t be sad enough to post on here if it wasn’t would I?

I’m not really sure what the problem is though. It’s really disappointing not to be doing better but it’s a difficult game? Quite hard to get right there is literally no one formula and at the end of the day you’ll always be playing 11 who also want to win. 
 

we are quite clearly trying to play football. We have a young manager,  We are signing young hungry players, we are developing our own players. Actually quite weird that some on here (and it really is just on here  ) don’t seem to want to get behind the a club and team? Weird. 

42 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

 

So in summary

You prefer bulls***s , than those who are straight
 

Not a great shock

 

As for ‘Nigel Pearson did nothing to unite or galvanise city while he was here’ 
 

Ive posted about the blind who didn’t look , didn’t watch , ungrateful , and had no concept of what was actually going on , and actually deserve L1 — Congratulations on your Membership

That last part reads like we are talking of war or famine. Oh wait no it’s just football. Chill, it will be alright in the end mate. Maybe we will get promoted, maybe we won’t. Maybe a hedge fund will buy us maybe they won’t. maybe nige will rise on a Monday, roll across his stone and come to save us.. Truly we are all just shopping bags in the breeze

2 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

The truth is the truth, and it needs to be said.

Regardless of how truth is delivered, it will always have the same impact.

People, such as Pearson, who are straight and honest and courageous enough to say what needs to be said, should be admired.

Courageous, give me a break. the love in is embarrassing, especially without any knowledge truly of what happened or what “truths” nige was spitting. Nigel Pearson did nothing to unite or galvanise city while he was here. Steady manager producing steady results - we were not going anywhere further so you have to roll the dice and sorry to break this to anyone but football has no certainty.
There was no excitement in the stands, no chorus’ of Nigel’s name game after game. Revisionary bullshit history to say he’s a some messiah. For 12 months we couldn’t score goals without forceps and our home form was diabolical.

the big talk from management during the change is of course the problem because the majority of people on here are petulant and pedantic and desperate to sell us into the unknown for a shot at god knows what? W*nking themselves off when MOTD is on because Danny Murphy said something nice about us? what did you expect them to say? “We’ve got an average squad with nothing going for it etc etc” not going to happen, you make a change you big it up and believe it might work. It might still work. Nigel might have got us doing more - I don’t know but he had enough time to prove it if he could. 

“Say it as they see it” types is boomer Facebook rhetoric for someone who likely won’t listen to anyone else and mistakes their personal “honesty” for the unequivocal truth and believes people should be grateful for it

3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Are you suggesting he did something inappropriate? 

Suggesting niges way of getting his point across could have been a little abrasive. I would imagine anyway.. Old school if you like 

21 minutes ago, fisherrich said:

Reliably informed that NP stood up to the “Board” (joke) and hence fired.
This club (Bristol Sport joke) is a complete and utter shambles. Don’t be fooled by all the bull sh#t, Lamsdowns don’t have a scooby doo how to run a football club. 

 

 

I don’t think you need to be reliably informed to know that one, pretty clear that’s what’s happened. What’s weird is apparently st Nigel could do no wrong and we must believe that everything he ever told the board was constant pearls of elite wisdom and the assumption is also made that this was always delivered in a wholly appropriate way.

he ain’t gonna shag any of you.

The board found him difficult, they’ve rolled the dice. It’s abit Meh. world keeps turning 

40 minutes ago, sglosbcfc said:

Dear Nigel

I made the mistake of thinking I knew something about football. I replaced an experienced and successful manager with a guy that had never managed above League One and had led MK Dons to the bottom 4. I then told the fans to expect the top six. 

Two of the worse three teams in the division have just comfortably beaten us and our league record is worse under him than you, despite the fact that you could barely name a team due to injuries.

Please come back and save the season

Love

Jon

P.S thanks for getting us the points early doors which mean we are not in a relegation battle now.

Good one. 

Jailed for breaking a truck drivers skull with a rock, and for breaking OTIB with a goal

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Brian Tinnion is feeding him info either directly or indirectly.  Directly is my guess.  And it’s not unusual for clubs to do this either, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes to try and offset some flak.

If I was the club, getting a bit of stick from fans, who would I choose (against my better judgement) - a Nige-hater with a big opinion.  Ian fits the bill perfectly to be a LM / Club advocate.

Aside from Qatar paying supporting groups to go to their tournament, when does this happen.

sounds like conspiracy bullshite

edited for further bewilderment, are you serious