Davefevs

It was in one of the interviews, I heard it.

Out of interest, how does the 4th official “tot-up” the time to be added. I’m led to believe it’s 30s for each goal and each batch of subs, e.g. 2 goals and 6 batches of subs equals +4m. But what about injuries, time wasting (even if by crowd not throwing ball back), etc? Does he keep a tally? I appreciate normal ball going out of play and retrieved isn’t added.

I think some love a good whinge! ? I don’t mind having an opposite view to anybody on here. You can still have a good discussion on it Joe and learn from others…sometimes it can be as simple as seeing from a different seat at the ground. On OSIB tonight Stanley thought the sub of Semenyo for Sykes and swapping Weimann was the momentum changer. I agree, more than the Martin for Wells sub. I think the point I’m trying to make is only some of the players fall into that category, the whole squad is not mid-table imho. One of our ever-presents is “league one at best” ? and he isn’t being paid top ten!

Wyscout was BC 1.32 v SU 0.62

But Sharp was involved in play.

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/08/english-championship-stats-2022-23/

There are stats, and you can see basic crossing volumes versus crossing success in the FBRef data. But if you want the level of detail you’re after, then it’s beyond the money you and I can justify spending, ie. You’re in the domain of pro clubs. My personal view is that too often we take the first chance to cross / create, rather than wait for the optimal opportunity. We don’t probe for the right time to play the killer ball, like Man City do for example. We are a bit rushed in our approach when we get into the final third. Did we really need to put in some of those “percentage” crosses last night, or showed a bit of patience to work a better opening. when I say this, I’m talking about when we are in controlled possession, rather than on the counter attack. When on the counter you are trying to use your attack in a different way, and time / speed is of the essence.

Book him for the foul, then book him again. Off you go. That’s the answer.

You’ve just won the whole internet ??????

I said on the CM thread that I’d prefer him to start than be a sub…but that if he did start it would be with Semenyo.

Their issue will be how sustainable is it to rely on several loans (not likely to be cheap in the main) each season to stay in the division. I don’t see either going up, despite Reading’s decent position. So next summer, they’ll be back to trying to loan another 5 players.

I was waiting for a chocolate gag when I saw Turkish and Whispa in the same sentence! ?

I might be depending on who I take / is nearby. Just seems like a bit of lack on decency / selfishness on your part that you want to eff and jeff without taking into account the people around you.

If you’re really interested in stats, there are paid for services like Wyscout (relatively cheap for data, video not so), Statsbomb (extortionate), or free services like FBRef who’ve just swapped from getting a subset of data from Statsbomb to using Opta. But with all data (football data) the art is understanding the context in which the data is collected, and how you can piece bits together to form a hypothesis. One person I know of flits from using possession one week, to shots another, to shots on target another to frame their agenda. Last night shows the problem with doing that. We won the possession, we won the shots, we drew the shots on target, but two of our off target shots crashed against the woodwork. You can’t just use stats in isolation, unless you really want to look at the scoreline! That is of course the one that matters. FBref: https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/Championship-Stats Heres the kind of data you can look at:

Likewise.

I believe we are in the top half of payers…as RG suggested. However, we would probably need to delve deeper into what that really means. Certainly in the published accounts £30.252 (20/21 - BCFC Ltd) on wages is the headline figure, and is / was too high. Add £12.358m amortisation (transfer fee “depreciation”) and you’re talking about £43m of cost, the vast slug of which is on “footballers”. That is too high, way too high, and most definitely puts us in top half / top ten. That will’ve reduced, looking forward to 21/22’s accounts coming out, but I still expect us to be top half. I assume RG means our overall wage bill is in a similar ballpark to teams outside the PP clubs plus the odd one or two, ie. The next bracket down. If you couple that with one stream of our new target market being OOC players, then the fact that there is zero amortisation, means there is some justification to paying a bit more to get an senior pro who’s OOC. Rob Atkinson (almost 23 upon signing) £1.6m plus let’s say £400k p.w = £2.8m (albeit hopefully future value) For that same £2.8m you can get Kal Naismith (30), let’s say on £15k p.w that costs you £2.3m over the same 3 years, but no future value. And I think we start to see the model….young and cheap, coupled with paying a bit more to attract players 27+, but who leave us with no amortisation to sink, like we have with Kalas (total cost £13m over 4 years) or Diedhiou. Massengo should’ve realised some value, but that’s a whole different story! So that leaves us paying good wages for senior players (top 10 money) but watered down by the likes of Semenyo, Scott, Conway, etc….and probably a mid-table budget overall. It puts pressure on Academy () and recruitment () and being able to sell or shift players when the timing is right. We’ve seen with Palmer that shifting a player who signed for a large fee is a financial headache, trying to shift a player you signed OOC is much easier. Not sure if I answered where you were going or not. I’d really like to see where the squad is next September when the summer window has closed, to really confirm whether the strategy is working or not.

we are also past GW19, so next yellow card suspension is 10 yellows. only Scott and Williams totting up the yellows!

I’d rather he started…and for those games I’d pair him with Semenyo.

We weren’t. The sting had gone out of our attack before Martin came on.

My mate text me that night “getting that effing wheelchair off the pitch”!!! ???

It is possible retrospective action could be taken…but I wouldn’t hold your breath!

I hope we get to see it…and at least observe whether it makes a difference. We saw pre-season v Cheltenham (yeah, yeah, only Lg1) how his bustling wing-back play can really work for us against deep-lying teams.

No, I know you’re not….it’s the others in here that do.

Ref made Alex Scott come to him, after Scott ignored him a few times. Egan ignores him several times, he runs towards him. PL v EFL recent history in a nutshell.