The Wild Bunch

Well done FBC for arranging this but listening to what GM had to say didn’t feel me with any enthusiasm for the season ahead!  

Hope I’m proved wrong but feel we are in for more disappointment over the next few years.

1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I have witnessed the good and the bad over the past 40 years, and I think this feels as bad as anything before.

The togetherness under Pearson, coming through a tough few years but feeling like we were building something, to the shambles this club has become over the past few months is incomparable. Lie after lie, and the total disrespect showed by Tinnion to the fans recently has to be the final straw. They have made this an us vs them environment.

Whatever happens over the next 12 months is purely the clubs own doing. I can only see it going one way and those at the top deserve what’s coming to them.

It’s really sad to hear so many loyal fans not planning on renewing next season.  A club like Bristol City who claim to be a community club should be doing everything possible to retain their loyal supporters who are the lifeblood of the club.

We get a few lines from the Bristol Sport not Bristol City CEO to accompany the price increases!  Shocking communication again.

11 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

I am not even sure where you start with an interview like that, but I have a good idea of where you end.

There is a very evident, and growing divide between the club and the fanbase. Any possibility of success will be driven by a unity of purpose and belief. But here we are with a club led by people who continually lie, and also seemingly have confused politics with sport. The lobbying, random posing on forums, offline briefing of local media and interviews like this demonstrate that they think you can detach the evidence and underlying mood with empty words. As if by saying something continually, it will become true, despite all of the evidence pointing in a different direction.

The club has created one of the most astonishing masterclasses in self-destruction. They have indeed lost the fan base, primarily because of the lack of transparency and continued lies. That destroys trust. But worse than that, there is no real anger. It is even more catastrophic, apathy prevails. The reason for that is possibly because people know there is nothing that can be done. The club is priced out of new ownership, and as such, we are currently hostages to the owner's whim. This is a real shame, because the owner most certainly would want what any fan would want, but over 2 decades the continued lack of any semblance of a strategy, changes in direction, and continued reluctance to employ competent people means we are now looking at regression. 

So here we are, we now have to watch the soap opera of Tinnion, Manning and Jon L play out until the cost of relegation becomes a real reality again. But we have been here on so many occasions.

The club is crying out for high quality professional leadership. It is now getting embarrassing for the owner. 

So true.

What a depressing listen. The Lansdown’s are taking us to league 1.  

Just finished the Cardiff pod.  Keep up the good work chaps.  Appreciate the effort in rolling out one of these every game.

1 hour ago, Alan Dicks said:

One of the worst decisions ever made by the Lansdowns, if not the worst.

These clowns now have a large portfolio of desperately poor decsions collected over the last 20 years.

So many poor decisions to choose from over the years.  The Dean Holden appointment is way up there after taking applications from all over the world and we went with LJ’s assistant!

24 minutes ago, BCFC101 said:

This needs more noise, I’m so tired of the Lansdowns ownership at this point, the priorities are all wrong at this football club. For as long as they are in charge we are going nowhere, if anything their delusion is going to take us backwards again. They’ve had two attempts at getting us to the Premier League and failed both times, there’s absolutely no signs that that’s going to change because they don’t learn. 

I’m desperate for new ownership and a proper board focussed solely on Bristol City FC not Bristol Sport.

2 hours ago, M.D said:

Bristol born but have lived in Brighton for a long time, so I know a lot about my club and Brighton.

Tony Bloom took over Brighton at a time you could say City was ahead of them in the football pecking order.

The difference between Tony Bloom and Steve Lansdown is very simple.

Bloom, a rich man and good business man took over his club and knew he was not experienced in running a football club, so what did he do?

He employed the best people he could get to run the football side of Brighton while he took care of the business side of the club.

He got the best people in he could and listened to them in an area he was lacking in to help his club progress.

Look at the stark reality of where City and Brighton are now, both similar sized clubs and history, one a Prem established club in Europe and the other repeating the same mistakes and what I think will end again in relegation to league one.

Manning is not for me but the issues are so much wider, it's breaking my heart, again.

Great post.  That’s the depressing thing we have seen this all before under the Lansdown’s over the last 20 years or so.

5 hours ago, Yozzarian said:

This is spot on.

 

What I will say though - as someone in their late 40s whose first season was the 89/90 promotion - is that in comparison to then, our songs seem few in number, fairly sanitised and stuff that when I can make out the words doesn't get my juices flowing (Forza stuff is lost on me). Times and songs change and better football/consistent team formations like the old days help build songs for each player (things were a lot better under the Double side than now); standing on the terrace helped also as you were energised and primed to sing more. 

Counter to this, is that when I was in the Atyeo stand against Swindon under Cotterill or away recently at West Ham I sung relentlessly any new song that was trawled out, so it's a mixture of things.  Sitting at home and watching the mostly boring football of the present day is key over song choices but I do miss:

Bob Bob Super Bob (change for any new player)

If you see Him on the corner.....

One man went to burn....

Lets go ******* mental...(more thrilling when stood for the first time behind the goal in the East End next to a 20 stone shirtless bloke who would terrify teenage you if you weren't a red)

Pyscho's gonna get you...

You can stick your ******* flag....

So many of these are never getting sung again ha but one can reminisce.  Is there anywhere here that lists the words of the current round? I'd join in more if my rubbish ears could make out more of the lyrics.

 

Ultimately, the Man Utd victory proves that if we are given good football, we can still create an atmosphere.

 

 

The Tom Thumb’s Song is from that era I think.  Always remember that being sung around that time.  People have tried singing it in recent years but the younger fans don’t know it unfortunately.

17 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I get your point. And you’re right, in the context of our history - nine seasons in the Championship is not to be scoffed at.

But there’s a wider context as well. The context that has us as the biggest club in the South West, with no Premier League club within 100 miles. A club in the 10th(ish) biggest city in the country. A club with a top class stadium and training facilities. A club capable of taking 45,000 fans to London for a game against Walsall. A club that has watched Bournemouth, Swansea, Huddersfield, Barnsley, Blackpool, Luton, Cardiff, Burnley, Wigan, Brentford, Stoke and Reading all surpass our own achievements in the modern era by playing in the Premier League.

Looking at our own history as a barometer for our success does nothing but highlight just how pathetically little we have achieved as a club for generations. I don’t want to be told to be grateful for 9 straight seasons in the second tier.

We were writing very similar posts at the exact same time.

20 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Out come the Bristol City are little brigade yet again

I'm not having any of it

Being the biggest historical underachievers in the country is no reason at all to continue to be the biggest underachievers.

We have a modern stadium, a decent upper Champ level training ground, fantastic crowds given our underachievement that are usually top third in this division, play in a great and rich city.

There is NO reason whatsoever to see lower midtable Champ as the best it can get for us. We should never be in danger of relegation from this league. 

Anything other than play off pushes is again, underachievement.

You wouldn't see this nonsense of sub par expectations at other clubs with far less fans.

Totally agree with these posts.  Challenging the Championship Play Offs is a minimum and we have only managed it once in the Lansdown era.

It is unfair, however all of those teams have delivered on the pitch unlike ourselves.

10 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Too be honest Dave loads start leaving from 35 minutes onwards and head to the bars, i'm always amazed how many just stand in the concourse watching the game on the TV's

Yep, people were streaming out after 40 mins last night.

They have written off this season.  I hope I’m wrong but can’t see this latest plan and change of direction working.  Oh well let’s see where we are after the next three transfer windows. 
 

1 hour ago, marmite said:

The Lansdowns would have looked around at the full(?) stadium last night thinking everything was rosey.

I sit not far away from them and I didn't hear our fans at all last night. Leeds fans sang all night and drowned out any noise from our fans. I'm not knocking the singing section because they do their best but it doesn't travel round the ground. That's not their fault, it's a design fault and it needs changing. 

Despite people claiming Jon will listen to alternatives I think  as long as the ground is full then he and dad are happy.

3000 away fans behind the Atyeo goal is worth a goal to away teams.

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Can’t be many grounds in the country where the most vocal fans are stuck in the corner.

Hopefully, the club will see sense and expand the unreserved standing across the rest of the South Stand.  Discussions have started but this needs to happen ASAP so probably looking at start of 25/26 season at best.

There will be some upheaval with fans who currently sit in the middle blocks of the South Stand but we as fans have had this previously with changes to ground etc.

I would like to see the Stand renamed in recognition of one of our former greats like the Atyeo Stand.  We may get back to some sort of traditional home end with fewer empty seats!

Tinnion has written off the season judging by his interview on Radio Bristol.  
 

Lots of talk about the summer transfer window and our targets.  Would like a number 9 and a 10 if Twine returns to Burnley.

 King and James will definitely be released.  

6 hours ago, phantom said:

FAO: @Henry

This has been discussed in the past and has some support.

Although the installation will not be in the short-term, it is under consideration and the practicalities of it will be explored.

Thanks for raising this issue.  Strange response from the club.  

The majority of clubs across the country have their name and crest on the outside of the stadium including us before the redevelopment.

12 minutes ago, The Bard said:

It's a lifestyle choice isn't it?

No one is making you travel to Rotherham on a Wednesday night. 

Fair play if you do btw.

If you look around other 2nd tier leagues, they don't play 46 games. It's ridiculous when you think about it. All the midweek games. Drop a couple of sides from the league and you lose 4 midweek games. That's clearly what is needed.

 

No chance it will happen though. 

Too many matches in the Championship which impacts the quality.  38 games season like the Premier League is about right.

Get rid of the EFL Cup and Trophy also and reduce midweek fixtures.  Easy!

Work in progress after season number 9 in the Championship since Cotts got us promoted!

Can’t see any improvement in merchandise anytime soon.  Doesn’t seem to be on City’s radar unfortunately.  We have been talking about it for years - poor service,  poor designs and no stock!

3 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

People forget Russell Osmans football frequently because so many ceased to attend. 

City's gates dropped to 7000 with Russell Osman in in charge. The away support collapsed to fourth division levels. At Portsmouth for a Saturday 3PM kick off the away support was in the low hundreds, half of who walked out in protest at half time with the score 0-0.

The reason? The stupefyingly boring football. 

We had some shocking crowds during that period.  I remember Scott Davidson coming in as Chairman and setting up a supporters database.  Crowds started to rise again towards the end of the 90’s.

Has anyone heard anything?  I would like us to keep the pinstripes on our home shirt, as different to all of the other red shirts out there. Hopefully the splat Robin experiment is over!

4 hours ago, ColneRed said:

I’m able to access my ticket but not my brother’s. Any suggestions please? We’ve got linked accounts, I usually buy both our season tickets!!

Under personal details go to manage relationships and check that your relationship is customer to customer.

I will always compare us against Brighton.  Brighton CEO on Talksport now and comes across very well.

11 minutes ago, frenchred said:

Could be better, look at forest, Newcastle, Wrexham, Luton, Bournemouth ........

Brentford, Brighton 

33 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

I work all over the country, other fans see us as a bit of a nothing club, I can sort of see there point of view if you try and look at it from the outside, we never really threaten to do anything, we just sort of go round in circles 

Supporting this club is so frustrating, so many lows and so few highs in my 40 years of watching.  Destined to remain a footballing backwater.