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40 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Pompey of course and almost certainly Derby but the play offs are too close to call with four clubs all within two points of each other all looking for three more points to guarantee a pray off place.

Personally I hope  Lincoln City can stay in 6th and are at Sincil Bank today facing already promoted Pompey who hopefully are already ‘on the beach’. If they can win the pray offs then it’ll be a definite away trip for me next season.

Lincoln is a beautiful City having spent lots of time there visiting my paternal g’father as a lad. 

The first thing I noticed is that you didn't call them the prayoffs in the first sentence, and then you went and spoiled it.

4 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Well we haven't won a tournament since 1966 and that's 58 years of winning zilch.  Many of you are too young to ever remember winning or what it feels like to win.

If your only criterion is winning tournaments then I'm afraid like the vast majority of supporters of most clubs then you are going to be sorely disappointed, personally I have been fairly happy with the national side the past few years, there won't be many countries looking forward to playing us this summer.

14 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Hard to get too excited about an end of season game with nothing riding on it, but both sets of players will either be playing for contracts or places in their respective starting 11s next year or even perhaps the prospect of a lucrative transfer deal or contract elsewhere.

But it is our last home game for a few months before we settle down to watch boring England fail to achieve yet again in a major competition and our last chance to see a few players who might not be here next season.

Not sure we will be seeing 2 teams really going for it - more likely a bit of experimentation and perhaps the chance for a few who might be on the fringes from the start or from the bench.

Still, it's what we always enjoy on a Saturday afternoon for whatever masochistic reason or another.

I'm not sure what you mean by achieving, a semi-final in the World Cup and a final in the Euros in the not-too-distant past, if you mean actually winning a tournament well yes we have not achieved, but only one team ever wins and the odds are pretty stacked against any team.

44 minutes ago, Southend Blue said:

Back in the summer of 1992 (we had just won the old second division incidentally to become founder members of the new Premier League) Leeds United were Champions of England but for the next nine months couldn't win a single league game away from Elland Road, which in retrospect, makes tonight's capitulation over in London something small fry.       Back in 1970 for good measure they looked well on course to win the League (old first division), F.A. Cup and European Cup, but finished with nothing.     They're no strangers to missing out or letting their own fans down, strange sequence of results etc.

Like said before all things can happen at a business end of a season where stakes are at the highest and teams have the most to gain, and at the same time, the most to lose.     That score from London a few hours ago was great for us of course but We're not promoted yet by any measure.

I think after 22 years away from the highest level I would have wanted the team to accomplish the promotion objective by their own continued merits and performance rather than be dependant on other teams scores but fans our end are so eager to make it back and after years and years of abject failure and hideous non-progress many if not all would simply take what they can get to aid the team over the finish line.

There is absolutely no guarantee the team will still finish top two, Hull City need points almost as much as ourselves while Coventry have endured such a horrid last week they'll want to give the fans there something back with games remaining.      Huddersfield at home on the final weekend sounds like a party atmosphere and a win for the taking but what with all's at stake for us, it'll be nothing short of nerves and we're going to have to earn it if three points on the day means a way back to the Premier League.      

Leicester now promoted is all very well and good for them at least, but a week or two back thought they'd blown it and could well have ended up in the play-off games.      We can still finish 1st and them 2nd but we were runners-up in League One last season when really deserved to be champions so it's a similar scenario but in a higher league.     First or Second gets a promotion, many fans here won't care too much with runners-up position, they've been (we have) away from the top league for so long we just a return back and the automatic places will provide it.

Back last August if you had offered the position we're in with games remaining, just about everyone at Portman Road would have chomped off an arm to accept it.     But as again there's still work to do and right now, nothing has been decided and it's going to take further hard work, belief and commitment to complete the job or see this dream or objective really set in stone.  

 

Any non-parachute payment club that makes it to the Premier League these days is something to be celebrated so well done if you do it, the playoffs are both thrilling and heartbreaking in well for us at least in equal measure, but if you gave me a chance guaranteed it must be a fantastic way to get a promotion.

1 hour ago, Superjack said:

We were shit and he said so 

 

We've had a few good games and he has said so. 

 

I don't see what is daft about that.

Any praise has been through gritted teeth and always with caveats, he has said he will admit he was wrong if we carry on our form, but again I feel he will be looking for the slightest dip in form or results to revert to type, he has been almost non-stop moaning since manning started, and in my eyes at least has been myopic. 

1 hour ago, 22A said:

Their forum is quite muted on the subject at half time; https://www.motforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=46435&start=280

Not the performance they need tonight. Will have to be a better second half.

We're like an Italian WW2 tank,1 forward gear 4 reverse

Ah! The old Italian jokes, well since you started it, what is the colour of the Italian battle flag? A white cross on a white background :laugh:.

26 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Yes an agenda for the club to be the best it possibly can.

Sorry for wanting that. 

I don't think Manning is the right fit for this club, I may be proved wrong, I may be proved right. Who knows. The day I stop caring about what is best for this club is the day I die. I'm sorry that you can't seem to grasp that very simple concept. 

If it goes wrong with Manning you will have every right to say I told you so, but I would hope that you would be brave enough to admit you were completely wrong if it goes well, my money is on you having to do the latter, I bet with us being the ONLY unbeaten Championship side in the last six games you are already thinking of ways of backing down because if we carry on being successful you will look a bit daft if you don't. 

3 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

Liverpool have completely choked in recent weeks. Fell apart in the FA Cup, then the Europa League and now in the Premier League. They've gone from looking strong treble candidates, to a season which has totally fizzled out!c Klopp probably wishes he said nothing until the end of the season!

Klopp the flop.

11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Windass amazing

Now where have I heard that before?

14 hours ago, Davefevs said:

What I was told:

No compensation, was free…as Brighton didn’t offer him a deal, they weren’t entitled to any.

Why didn’t they offer him a deal?  Madness, surely!

Because he wasn’t gonna sign and they realised that any compo might be entitled to might put clubs off…and they felt it was in the players interest to have as wide a choice as possible.

Fair play to Brighton, he wasn’t gonna make it there, so why make it harder for him.

It's a decision I feel in time they may come to regret.

8 hours ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Bloody incredible. Because this board have not shown an ounce of ability to forward plan on the pitch since they’ve been in charge of the club. They lurched from pillar to pillar to pillar to pillar to pillar…

Well, you never know, this time they may have actually got it right, stranger things have happened.

16 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

We've been battered into submission now by a clearly inept board who are lucky that results haven't been bad 

And why haven't the results been bad? Have you ever thought that maybe the board knew the players they had and wanted in the future and maybe just maybe the man they chose could bring out the best in them by somehow relating to them and using a different way, how amazing would that be?

4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

To people who say results are the be all and end all it's performances like today, however it ends up, that give you hope we might improve a few things next season not scrapping some shite 1-1 draw in the last minute with a dodgy penalty at home to Huddersfield or that awful 1-0 win at home to Swansea..

And considering we have absolutely nothing to play for except pride as well.

1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

How is that not offside 

The home side?

Well that didn't last long 1-1

25 minutes ago, archie andrews said:

Think a few turnstile "operators" did ok on matchdays mind nogs..... 

I remember the infamous City v Chelsea FA Cup game, when they announced the "official" attendance the crowd laughed they actually laughed they later amended it up by quite a few thousand.

1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Quite a few crowds against the likes of Leicester, Sunderland, Coventry, Ipswich, QPR & Middlesbro' were 16-18k.

Not big crowd pullers and at the time not huge away support.

I remember being in a crowd of 12k against Middlesbro' on one occasion.

Don't forget crowds of 27-33k against the big boys, and even more on some occasions, dragged the average up to 22/23k before the relegation season.

I could barely believe that but you were right 22nd April 1980 12,013.

1 hour ago, Bedred31 said:

Brilliant memories. And it’s easy for me to be nostalgic. But, to be honest, it’s pretty good today as well. That Portsmouth game was probably the clubs biggest game in 60+ years, but the attendance was about the same (just a bit more) as the the recent Leicester game. During our 4 year stay in the old Div 1 - and I attended virtually every home game- we sometimes got 30+ k attendances - and once 38k-  but the crowd was often 16-17 k. To be honest, pretty much everything about City is better today, although I’d love another shot at the top flight before I snuff it.

I don't think we had many crowds of 16/17 thousand in the first division, some maybe towards the end of our time there when we were no longer competitive and pretty much nailed on for relegation, that last season, our average was around 23,000 the first 3 years and even 19,000 in our last season.

10 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

A useless bit of trivia. Playing for Portsmouth that night was an 18 year-old Chris Kamara.

Unbelievable Geoff!! (sorry I couldn't resist:laugh:).

2 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

You've got one guess and one guess only....................

Ooh! Let me see, The Land of Donkey Rides, fish and chips, and lots of people from the Midlands on holiday?

4 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

I think Liam was as close as two defeats away from the sack and had the Leicester and Plymouth games been defeats he couldn't have complained about it either (albeit the real problem at the club would remain imo). Since then he hasn't lost a game so it wouldn't make sense for fans to keep calling him out albeit performances are still very mixed from week to week.

I think the majority of (not all) posters on here will change their minds if someone or something gives them reason too. You can call it backtracking as if its some form of weakness (real weakness is refusing to change your opinion/admit you got it wrong in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary) or you can call it being plain reasonable as new/different facts present themselves? Happens all the time at work, you start down one route and end up choosing another as facts change, nothing to be ashamed of.

However, before anyone has to start eating humble pie and other bollocks, he's got pre-season and the first three months of next season to successfully negotiate, no two ways about that. Come through that period unscathed, playing some nice football/looking upwards and people can start talking about pies and how they knew better all along................

I can only think of less than a handful of posters, at most, that simply won't have Manning under any circumstances.

Pray do tell :laugh:.

5 minutes ago, FNQ said:

And my point was that although given their league position we should be beating Huddersfield at home, unlike Leeds we only had 9 shots vs 13.. Leeds have largely been unlucky, I thought Huddersfield were the better side against us. Unfortunately I think that you’re right on Manning, and if you read my post properly where have I said he’s going anywhere fast? Lucky not to have already gone though in my opinion.

And if I do need to eat humble pie, then that’ll be a good thing for all of us, right?

Indeed it will be. and I hope you do need to.

1 hour ago, FNQ said:

Leeds haven’t won in their last three games, losing 2-1 at Coventry they had 19 shots to Coventry 11, in the 0-0 against Sunderland they had 12 shots versus 6.. against Blackburn they lost having 19 shots versus 3. To compare our plight versus that of Leeds is as ridiculous as is your support for Manning and the way that he has us ‘playing’. Be honest with yourself at least, it’s been pretty poor and if it were not for Max we would have been humiliated a good few times and he would have been long gone by now.

I wasn't comparing, just pointing out to the poster expecting us to beat Huddersfield that Leeds had lost at home to Blackburn, so read my post properly before having a go, yes a few of the performances have been a bit underwhelming but it's a results business and he is certainly currently getting them, if you think Manning is going anywhere fast you will be sorely disappointed. I think you will soon be another poster having to eat humble pie, just as a few on this forum have already started to backtrack. 

4 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

So being top over the last five means that one should expect a performance with more confidence against a struggling side like Huddersfield.

So how did we manage to give us supporters, one of the most awful displays that I've seen in a long time?

Backwards and sideways all the time. Boring and not the least bit entertaining.

Ask the Leed fans how they feel playing a side recently they should easily beat, as the cliche goes there are no easy games in the Championship. 

4 hours ago, Natchfever said:

Season isnt over 5 games is it.

And yet when we only pick up a couple of points over 5 games like we have at times we are doomed, going down, Manning is crap etc.