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16 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:
The banner said 'wasted potential on and off the pitch'
What a load of nonsense. If you compiled a list of overachieving clubs (both now and historically) compared to fanbase, stadium, etc etc then Palace would be right near the very top of the list.
Because they have potential to be so much more.
By wasted potential, they mean they've stopped. Blinded by money of survival. They've settled. This is their peak, the end of the story
One day, city will get there. Year 1, survival, year 2 survival. But at some point fans ask, and now? What now?
Palace are meh! Don't entertain, don't threaten europe. exist to survive. I mean even Bournemouth want more.
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2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:
Thats my observations too.
Manning is also getting less out of a squad which has a greater availability than it did under Nige.
Which is exactly what everyone and anyone could have said, well everyone bar those who made the decision
it's normal for most Managers.
Yesterday at HT, I felt responded well to going behind. But at half time. If a tad lucky to be level thanks to max
in the 2nd half, our best stuff came from corners, set pieces, deliveries into the box. Asking questions of their defence. (What i want to see)
But i also don't remember any clear cut chances created from build up football.
I didn't feel is was a particularly great game with attacking incisive football, but at the same time it was well above poor. And importantly city were trying to win, as were Watford at the end.
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3 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:
Of course not everything but Palace's attendances in the Champ are poor. Their display yesterday seemed very Charlton esq.
Football is about dreaming. Palace have stopped doing so, operation survival mode. It also doesn't help their main rivals lead around 1000000 categories in how to run a football club. They are who everyone wants to be
Brighton fans go to a game knowing; we probably aren't going to keep a clean sheet today, but our team will go for it. They are in the euro hunt.
Palace fans are being clear! Simply survival, it's not enough, this is not the dream. Could it bite them? Absolutely! But that's the deal with dreams. But is it really asking so much to go to. Stadium and enjoy the football your team wants to play.
I mean fans aren't stupid. They know backs to the will be needed in a season. They know teams have off days! And in terms of palace fans they've done their bit making an atmosphere. How their fans feel, to me it's on the board.
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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:
I’m sure he has been a breath of fresh air. He’s gonna coach differently to the previous set up. It’s the insinuation of “no coaching” that I don’t buy.
I don't think anything counts on robins TV.
What's he going to say?
Bif of a damp squid to be honest, expected better, bang average??
You don't realize how much neutral commentators or JP matter until your subjected to robins TV week in week out, and how amazing everything is all day everyday under every manager for 4 years
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34 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:
Crikey, I think you could start an argument in an empty lift
That's my territory
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7 hours ago, 2015 said:
@Curr Avon Thanks for your work on these pods. I'm sorry you are constantly interrupted by Ian, especially around the 1 hour mark where he obnoxiously interrupts you for discussing City things of the past.
In podcast terms, that was pretty shocking. Just no reason for it either.
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17 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:
Couldn’t see it earlier in the thread, this is the incident:
For me, that’s a VAR red but not a red if you get my drift. He gets the ball and the ball influences his follow through onto Ings. Slowed down, it looks worse - but I think it’s one that isn’t given as a foul without VAR (as it correctly wasn’t).
Id say we got away with one but more about the moronic way VAR is utilised as opposed to getting away with a bad challenge.
The ball influences because he catches the top of the ball. It's a very very poor challenge in the modern game.
It should have been a red in game. We are fortunate the ref missed it
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10 hours ago, old_eastender said:
He could easily have collected a yellow for the challenge on Ings in the 1st half. Great to see the crunching tackles, but he needs to keep them clean. Thought Matty James played well too, calm and assured.
A yellow? He's lucky it wasn't a red (it reminded me of wolves 2017 red card)
You just can't follow through studs up like that any more. He may take the ball first but it was so reckless.
He's lucky the referee appears to have missed it, and there was no VAR. In a VAR world that's a red 9.5/10.
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One of my favourite commentaries ever tbh. It's epic.
As someone said on match day thread. It's an epic version of robins tv (because when city are bad/or west ham good he says so- like the red- and Williams part in it even if was a red)
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1 minute ago, Andy082005 said:
Deserved red under the rules of the game but pure shithousery from Williams
Absolutely for both parts
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39 minutes ago, One Team said:
It’s like a good RobinsTV!
Exactly exactly exactly exactly this
My god this
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10 minutes ago, One Team said:
It’s like a good RobinsTV!
Exactly exactly exactly exactly this
My god this
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16 minutes ago, italian dave said:
And….??
We can do 100 pages on someone who never arrives here at all! Twice!
Edit: sorry @bcfc01 - just seen your post as I was composing!!
Fair point. But at least most of that was about the actual player.
This thread is a whole different thing.
But hey, maybe i should stop reading, not comment, and leave everyone else to it. So yeah fair point.
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48 pages and counting on a loan signing.
Ok then.
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12 minutes ago, Sturgess said:
Therein lies my point, sometimes you have to force the oppo to react, rather than waiting for something to happen - force them to respond. Granted, you may concede a possession or a chance, but it works both ways right?!
I once read - many moons ago.
When wenger was at arsenal, he mainly focused on defensive set-up, and the transition phases.
But when on the ball he had very little input as to what players should do, simply that players should both enjoy and express themselves.
His arsenal sides often bad faults, but on the ball they were always so expressive as a result.
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His teaching of henry for example on making different runs depending on who had the ball was so simple yet fantastic, because henry always made the some runs regardless who was in possession then get annoyed they couldn't play that pass. That one piece of advice changed his career
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5 minutes ago, Sturgess said:
Therein lies my point, sometimes you have to force the oppo to react, rather than waiting for something to happen - force them to respond. Granted, you may concede a possession or a chance, but it works both ways right?!
Henry explains it very well.
He wasn't in the game, following management tactics, but he was out of the game
He went being proactive, even scored ..... Result= he was subbed
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I think it happens in so many games in all football teams. We get frustrated at players for not doing certain things, but if they did; even if they worked in that moment, they would find themselves out of the side.
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21 minutes ago, Sturgess said:
Too much positional discipline and responsibility, maybe players need to have or show a little more freedom or a preparedness to gamble by making a run even though it may leave ‘their’ man free?
You can only show freedom if you are given it.
Often, when a lot of coaching is involved, it's about waiting for someone else's trigger movement
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At Half time, i felt we were almost playing well.
Half time they made changes; and they were a totally different side. We failed to adjust. Top job to their management for identifying our weakness. We had no answer.
The adjustments we seemed to make, made us worse.
After 3 in a row, there were a number of posts on how effective the new management has been. How everything is so much better now etc etc. almost i told you so's
Well as always, sport is humbling.
3 league games later- 0 goals in the process. With a strong argument during the game, their management out-thought ours.
What now? We are back to square 1 = 4 points off the playoffs
Ah the joys of supporting city.
3 wins in a row, followed by 0 goals in 3 league games
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Sprinklings of almost playing well, like it's a couple of not quite decisions on the ball. 3 points there for the taking, they are just about better than Birmingham.
- I'm having to do my taxes at the same time today, only a few times has the games seriously demanded my attention.
It's not a great game. But you can see we are looking to create.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C12tra2LqqC/?igsh=azVlbWh1MnB4a2U=
And the name spreads just a little more
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2 hours ago, Port Said Red said:
Oooh an emoji war......
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On 03/01/2024 at 11:58, And Its Smith said:
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Cicar; when i booked all insurance is included in the price- no hidden prices)
I used them in the Canary Islands, had an accident; no questions, no issues
They are in canaries, and balearics
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2 hours ago, elhombrecito said:
Playoffs made 70% of the time over the past ten years... Must be tough...
All about standards...
0 championships is much worse.
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5 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:
You should try supporting the Jets...
Longest playoff drought of any team in any of the big four sports
It's all about expectations.
Jets have always been bad, just which version of bad. As for the yankees, truly a barren spell. Worse than the 80s=
FBC POD - Watford [H] the verdict ...... it was OK, no more than that
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Exactly, exactly, exactly!
But it even started v west ham. Half the world now thinks we are a battle hardened dirty team, beating up a southern softie - so much so we moved north geographically. Was that the plan?
V Watford , to watch most of our danger coming from set pieces and crosses. My first feeling was ok so manning is adding another method in how we attack teams. Good.
But then it's like wait, player pathway? All teams playing a certain way? All future coaches at all levels will be hired playing a certain way?
Without being in the room during certain conversations! I'm pretty sure it didn't go..... Right guys, so we're all happy with looking most dangerous from set pieces and crosses each game? Excellent.
Could it be they think they've hired an ideology, presented an ideology and tried to convince us they are getting an ideology, based on who he was.
Whereas actually, they've got someone still learning, who wants his teams to play a certain way but will mix it up if needed (lessons learnt from previous clubs)??? All of a sudden, i can see a world where control is no longer a buzz word for a positive after a lost game.