KegCity

1 minute ago, italian dave said:

 

The ref gathered together quite a collection of things thrown at their scorer…and very deliberately gave them to the fourth official

And? It’s on the club to punish the individuals, I doubt the club is able to shut a section of the ground and rehouse STHs for a match.

3 minutes ago, italian dave said:

 

Anyone else thinking that we might be seeing a S82 closure for a game or two coming up? 

Why would there be?

Great response, quality play from Weimann to spin flint.

Vyner makes me want to phone Samaritans.

2 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Underwhelming start from us 

Just can’t get a foot on the ball. Cardiff to be fair are pressing well and knocking it about nicely.

Advantage: Cardiff 

Any stream links around? Want to make sure I don’t accidentally click on one

1 hour ago, billywedlock said:

Maybe you underestimate him too, but do agree Eze (more than Zaha) is a lovely exceptional technical player, but far off no, sorry.  Maybe I'm too positive. If he does add those goals to his game and his football intelligence continues to improve he will be gone in 5 minutes. He has everything else they look for at the top. I hope he stays, as it is with him, Scott, Ayman that we have a remote chance of getting to the Prem. 

Semenyo has great feet but he’s streets behind Eze in terms of technical ability. That’s not a slight on Semenyo, just Eze can do far more with the ball and can play at a higher standard than Semenyo. We still need to see Antoine perform consistently in the championship before comparing him to a player that’s performed consistently in the Premier League.

He’s got bags of potential, and could well end up at a similar level to Eze, but he’s not near it yet.

38 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Ago was a good player, but he never had that pace. Antoine could become a player similar to Zaha , and IMHO a better player that Eze. Palace will be all over him. 

Too early to be making those judgements imo. Eze is a top top talent.

18 hours ago, SecretSam said:

The one that mystifies me is Bath, how come they haven't managed to do anything. 

The West Country, however, struggles to support the league clubs it has now, let alone new ones.

It's all about the rugby in Bath. It's also a tough location as they're not a big club so most people in the area either support City/Gas or are closer to Wiltshire and support Swindon. 

I think if they somehow got to league 2 they might be able to build some momentum.

1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I notice mine has recently lapsed, but I don’t think it’s fair for you to try and shame people who aren’t subscribers. You have no idea of their reasons and it’s not your place to try and call them out. 

Yeah, I didn't bother rising to that one.

12 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

@KegCity @spudski

The pub analogy works when it's a pub in a village- the only pub. I guarantee you that "customers" feel like it's their pub . It's not like any other business because it's at the heart of the community.

As for statement that BCFC is broken- what utter nonsense. It's not broken but it is seriously wounded like dozens of other clubs in the EFL ( probably most)and mainly due to the pandemic combined with all the money going to the PL and then PP and each and every club's need to either merely survive or its non stop quest for promotion.

Those who don't want to go to games yet pontificate on a forum about why they don't/won't support the club - well that's their choice but perhaps shouldn't be taken too seriously when they think of themselves as a fan or supporter.

Meanwhile over 20,000 of us think otherwise and cant wait for saturday albeit that we've usually been regretting it by 5.10 p.m..

I just don't think they're comparable in practice, yes they're both "businesses" but there's a lot that makes a football club different to a normal business that isn't tangible. I'm obviously in the minority that think that so I won't try and convince you otherwise. As many village pubs have seen it doesn't matter if you're the only pub in the village as people will still switch allegiances, that isn't really a thing in football.

For the record I'm a STH at City, not sure if that comment about being taken seriously was a dig at me or somebody else.

4 minutes ago, grifty said:

I get what you mean, however I view this as more of a "I've paid for the privilege to own this club and I will run it the way I see fit" rather than paying to own the club and then listening to fans gobbing off outside the stadium or on a forum and doing whatever they say because ultimately, it's his money.

Yeah don’t disagree that it’s his name attached to the club, just at the risk of being too romantic whoever the owner is isn’t actually bigger than the club. To me the fans are part of the club as they’re the ones that make it what it is.

I’d like to see a similar situation to the fan ownership in Germany but that won’t ever happen.

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

So , out of interest- do you feel the same way about your local pub? It may be owned by someone but it belongs to the drinkers? Trouble with this view is about the money- it's always about the money. Colchester , in common with many a business which have a place in a local community, are not exactly flowing with cash or the level of support which makes the business sustainable. Many people want the facility to be there but aren't always willing to support it other than as and when it suits them.

I support BCFC but not from my sofa but with hard cash. I dont go looking for basically illegal free streams which deprive our club of desperately needed money and then go bleating on about no money for transfers.

When City announce losses of over £30 million in a season ( year) I thank the lord that I don't own the club and I have zero liability for the losses. Fans are great when money is being spent on transfers/trying to get a promotion but turn very quickly if it doesn't work out and the club is in serious debt. Just ask any Derby fan.

And whilst I'm on a rant- how difficult is it to pay £5 to OTIB and become a supporter? It's OUR forum after all..... isn't it???

No I don’t because I don’t “support” a pub in the manner someone does a football club because a football club is not simply a business despite the attitudes of many these days. My view is that whilst the owner owns the club, it’s the fan base that make it what it is and it’s their club. I know some people like to act as if Lansdown is Mr Bristol City, for example, but he’s really safeguarding the club and running it. The club was here before he arrived and providing he doesn’t hire another Mark Ashton it will be here when he leaves. It’s part of the community. You can make a strawman comparison to a pub but they’re clearly not the same thing. Both have “customers” and owners but by that logic you can compare pretty much anything with transactions involved, they’re clearly very different organisations.

Don't understand what illegal streams has to do with the club belonging to the fans. I genuinely don’t get what you mean about debts etc, if anything that strengthens my point more? Look at Wimbledon for example, now technically the club is MK Dons as it belongs to the owners who do what they like. The actual club was resurrected by the fans and is now AFC Wimbledon. They’re two different entities, technically the business renamed, rebranded and moved cities, but it’s no longer the same club. 

I might be pedantic or too quaint about it but whilst the fans don’t sit down and do the spreadsheets they make the club what it is. It belongs to them. The contempt of Colchester’s owner to have an attitude of “it’s my club I’ll do what I like” rubs me the wrong way because whilst it’s technically true, in reality it’s not. If every fan abandoned the club the club folds, it’s not like a pub as you alluded to where other customers can be attracted unless you do an MK Dons where it’s no longer the same club.

1 hour ago, TheReds said:

Feel free to make me a cash offer for the bit that belongs to me, you can then double your bit.

I don’t want my bit at the minute let alone yours!

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

This is a fallacy the fans like to believe, we are just followers of a team through choice, it doesn't belong to us.

I would say owners have more choice than fans over which clubs they’re involved in. You’ll have the standard top 6 fan who chops and changes but I’d expect most city STHs feel more of a connection the club than an owner, it’s not a standard choice like in most markets. Who knows though, maybe football is just another day out these days?

47 minutes ago, CHIPLEY RED said:

This wont be a universally agreed view but I think the fan is out of order and the chairman is right. Verbally abusing anyone in that way is out of order and actually it is the chairmans club as he owns it and probably funds it.

He owns the club, but it belongs to the fans, as it is at City. Owners, managers and players come and go but the fans stay.

14 hours ago, chinapig said:

Even at his best Keane was a solid centre half but with few of the qualities of a modern defender. Qualities Webster has in abundance.

Webster was not on Keane's level when he was getting England caps. Webster has since surpassed him comfortably. I'd like to see him go to Arsenal in the summer.

40 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Until Saturday judgement of height has been one of his main weaknesses, though could be he's watched Weimann to closely in training for whom the crossbar could never be high enough.

Very weird stick to beat our top goal scorer with but each to their own. Yep, Semenyo's been guilty of leaning back as he shoots but that certainly wasn't the case on Saturday. Said my piece on his finishes in another post:

1 hour ago, KegCity said:

For want of better phrasing he hit the ball with anger whenever he was in front of goal last Saturday. Instead of rushing the shot or taking too long to pick a spot as he's done previously, when the opportunity for a shot arose he got the ball out of his feet, took a step and just struck the ball cleanly and hard. The way he shrugged off their centre backs and ran half the length of the pitch showed that "**** it, I'll do it myself" mentality that Harry Brooks and other coaches attribute with top players.

Whether that was a flash in the pan or the start of something exciting remains to be seen, but there's promising signs there.

As you've made extremely clear this doesn't necessarily mean he's turned a corner, but from a purely technical POV his performance on Saturday displayed everything you want from a top forward.

21 minutes ago, Yellow&Blue&Red said:

His shots per game looks like it's gone way up (I haven't checked). I think he's been a little overawed by the Championship and Pearson has told him in no uncertain terms that his job is to get through on goal and shoot. And now we're seeing the benefit.

For want of better phrasing he hit the ball with anger whenever he was in front of goal last Saturday. Instead of rushing the shot or taking too long to pick a spot as he's done previously, when the opportunity for a shot arose he got the ball out of his feet, took a step and just struck the ball cleanly and hard. The way he shrugged off their centre backs and ran half the length of the pitch showed that "**** it, I'll do it myself" mentality that Harry Brooks and other coaches attribute with top players.

Whether that was a flash in the pan or the start of something exciting remains to be seen, but there's promising signs there.

5 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Funny that because there are dozens of players younger that in both Championship & Premier & 22 is the age City tend to drop the ones fir the future who never were.

Hopefully Semenyo is a late bloomer but his return to date in respect of both goals and assists is exactly why we are where we are.

Just because he isn't Jude Bellingham doesn't mean he doesn't have a high ceiling.

39 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said:

Woo hoo - we're as bad as Birmingham but not quite as bad as Reading 

Pretty accurate!

20 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Sorry, can you remind me of the last time please

He scored against Norwich. That's about it. The bar for him is so low that the occasional performance where he actually does his job is seen to be much better than it is.

2 minutes ago, BCFC Richard said:

Pearson literally said that in a way games like this are free games. Challenging players to step up and then working with them on what they got right and/or wrong after could massively help development. 

I get what you mean but that's not the right attitude to go into a league match with. We could have competed with Fulham for 90 minutes. We did it in the first two meetings with them this season and we did it for the first 30 minutes of yesterday. It was the complete collapse of Kalas/Vyner that threw the game away. Yes they were against excellent players, but it wasn't any opposition magic that lost us the game.

3 hours ago, TBW said:

When you've got Vyner and Pring at CB to support Kalas up against Mitrovic. You're bound to get ******.

Pring was the only defender to do themselves any justice imo.

14 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Just a thought, but maybe a thread about away games at Fulham isn’t the place to start making the argument that Lee Johnson’s teams never really did anything?

Is winning at Fulham classed as doing something? Meant more actually achieving something aside from beating man united. 

7 hours ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

O’dowda really needs to be moved on. We can do so much better than him. We need players that actually offer end product not just good runners 

He embodies Lee Johnson’s team well. A lot of energy without ever really doing anything