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This is almost as good as Plymouth at home, Boxing Day '84

7 minutes ago, italian dave said:

He did nothing to counter Stoke’s time wasting….except to waste more time himself. And then added nothing on for it. 

You wanted to see more?

3 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I am always asked to name a new Manager so I'd like you to name a new owner please.

Ben Stokes

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Good player in a very good side, him, the sublime Cormack, industrious Tainton & Sir Gerry in midfield.

Not bad, was it?

Well, er, we were relegated that season?

On 12/12/2022 at 19:26, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Insurance does tend to attract the villains because the sales money comes in before the claims money goes out.

Yeah, insurers and football clubs, selling football season tickets: get the money in first, whilst promising/hinting we'll be buying x, y and Andre Gray, then rock up at Sheffield Wednesday and fall apart. It's a racket ...

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

An attempted tackle isn’t a controlled attempt to play the ball, therefore doesn’t put Ogbene onside.

You just making this up, Dave, or do you actually know the rules (ok, ok: the laws)?

56 minutes ago, Olé said:

Apologies. I took notes as usual but as a match it was a bit "meh" (especially for one we were winning at half time, despite looking shapeless whenever they went at us). By the second half my hands were too cold to type so I had a 25 minute gap in my notes until our third, and as commented the game by then had become very flat apart from the odd Max O'Leary save. Then legged it to Sheffield to watch the Portugal game, which by full time had done for my enthusiasm for football as @Davefevs rightly identified (and I even had a 3 hour train journey back to follow, which is normally a vacuum of time filled by writing the report).

Stiff upper lip a lot easier for England - at least you turned up and against the favourites. 

In the absence of a report looking back at my notes the key themes are covered in this thread I think, the fact Rotherham ran at us effectively throughout the game and we seemed to stand off and stand off (and in the first half anybodies guess who was tracking who). Our best football was from the same place it came earlier in the season, Naismith going direct and picking out the run of Conway off the last man. We were much more effective in the second half at killing the game, but we weren't ever particularly quick to the 50/50s and second balls. Everything was a bit flat, even the crowd, I think everyone was distracted by other things...

Ok mate, but don't let it happen again. Otherwise, we'll have to start going to these bleedin away games miles away up North ourselves, and who wants to do that? what are we, Fewers? else we won't know wtf happened. Or be forced to listen to Radio Local.

15 hours ago, BigTone said:

You are obviously ITK. Some of the regular ITK' ers on here will be feeling a tad uneasy right now at your level of ITK-ness. However, as a means of self preservation they will respond with a conspiracy theory of some kind fuelled by a contact they have who is ITK.

Some of us are visited by angels, some of us just know a bloke that knows a bloke that locks up the HPC at night .... 

44 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Good to hear a logical assessment, instead of pretentious journalistic egotism.  You are spot on.

No, no. France just knew Kane would "Tomlin" it into the stand. It's what comes with being France or whatever the fella wrote

38 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Although Mount earned us the penalty.

He made a run into the box, have another 20 caps. The French lad did the rest. Me and you could (still, just about) do what Mount did there.

When Mount had the ball 25 yards out and needed to hit it, with everything right, his momentum, his central position etc he hit it like a bobbins Championship or L1 player. 

Mount is Southgate on the pitch. No opponent worries about facing Mason bloody Mount.

Not having a pop at you, Fevs, just singling Mount out for some flak!

12 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

They did as much as they could without making it obvious, I am pretty sure it's a Messi V Mbappe final they want for the reasons given by @Mr Popodopolous. Despite being within 5 yards of the Mount penalty, he wasn't going to give it. VAR had to give it, to not give it would have raised suspicion higher. If Kane had scored, I am convinced there would have been a very dubious pro France decision further down the line. 

It's all arranged. At the final, Messi, Modric and a tearful, but wise, Ronaldo, will enter the stadium on camels, bearing gifts of gold, frankincense and Budweiser, following a bright, Iranian drone light way up in the desert sky, France will triumph and the Three Old Gits will crown Mbappe King of Football, as they are showered by a ticer tape shower of a billion dirty dollar bills. Putin will then have every non-Russian boy in the world slaughtered so they have half a chance of qualifying, and 3,000 Gas will be locked out of the final, with Gianni Infantino telling them to **** off back to League One. 

1 minute ago, italian dave said:

I know it won’t be a popular view but I think some of the reaction to the referee on here has been over the top. He wasn’t the reason we lost, and I think talk of plots and deliberate bias is ridiculous.

Let me say at the start that I don’t think he was great: he was inconsistent, never showed any real authority over the game, but in terms of the “big” decisions:

First French goal; the foul on Saka was a long way back and we had plenty of opportunity to stop what happened subsequently. Personally I thought it was a foul, but others (including on here) didn’t - and it was suggested that VAR would have looked at it - and if that’s the case then they decided not too.

First half penalty shout: again, I thought it was a foul, but arguably outside the box. I’d imagine VAR judged that to be the case, and so that decision was theirs, not the referees. He wasn’t given the opportunity to review it.

Second penalty: yes he missed it first time, but we don’t really know what his view/angle was. Today at Rotherham there was an almost identical barge into the back of a City player that went unpunished by the ref - and he didn’t have the benefit of VAR. In this instances the ref did have that benefit, took advantage of it, made the right decision. He didn’t give a red card because the attacking player didn’t have the ball under control so it wasn’t a clear goal scoring opportunity.

Overall, really frustrating because we were good enough to have won tonight, things just didn’t go for us. We matched one of the worlds best sides and on another day could have won. That’s massive strides from where we were  a decade  or less ago. And with young players who’ll only get better. 

But if the ref himself gives the foul on Saka, or the clear foul on Kane, from behind, in the box, it's a different game. England were done by the ref, not by var

9 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Tomorrow mate. Grandkids coming up to help the mrs decorate it. 

Grandad might sneak out for a cheeky pint before lunch…

Exactly as it should be. Enjoy

5 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Who gives a ****. World Cup is over for me.
City home next weekend then It’s chrisssstmaaaaas…

Got yer tree up yet?

Dark n Long from itv, nice

10 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

And We should have had a new penalty taker.

Nor brought Bobby Charlton off, in Guadalajara

Just now, Northern Red said:

Cretin.

Good player, never a penalty taker. For me.

Just now, !james said:

All Croatia for the semis then. 

Nah, Englund fer me, mate

19 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

The Argentina goalkeeper Martínez played against us for Reading on loan from Arsenal.

Did we get a pen in that game? Oh, silly question. ...

6 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

The surrounding and harangueing of the referee by the Argies , coach ,staff and players , at the end was a complete disgrace 

 

Alan Shearer said after full time "the referee's making it difficult for the players," 

1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Break after Jan 1st fixtures.

Of course. Ok, right. Flog 'em over the 12 days of mindless consumerism, then let them fly off to Dubai/Shanghai/Australasia for three weeks of their precious rest/lucrative friendlies.

If they must, but would be loathe to lose the Christmas programme, a big part of our football, and sporting, culture. Let them rest in early December, so we can then have them playing five games in nine days (or whatever it is) over the holiday season. 

It's all up in the air and up for grabs now though, now that the club season has been interrupted by a World Cup. 

17 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

BBC won’t move Strictly ?

4 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

It's on itv

Strictly?

4 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Brazil didn't play against Korea in the 1966 World Cup. 

All look the same, these .....

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

It was the Koreans at Goodison Pk that targeted him. Back then the referees took no action at all and Pele got carried off injured - that was seen as normal back then.

Koreans at Goodison Park?