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It's all thankfully in the past. But seeing someone say such an unkind thing, especially something I've gone through, not really sure how else to put it but, sucked.

I agree. It's much more magnified than say if the same number of fans did it at Manchester United. But for certain clubs I don't think it's the case, like Chelsea for example. Chelsea have a bigger fanbase than Leicester but the 14-18 racial arrests showed (if I'm right from memory) that Leicester had more. Regarding Rovers though I think you're right, but it is still a very small portion of the overall fanbase.

Every fanbase does unfortunately have fans like that though. On Gaschat the other day there was a fan who I believe mocked the fact that a cricket commentator who criticised Rovers (not sure who precisely, as I hadn't heard of him nor do I watch cricket) had I believe gone through periods of depression and contemplation about suicide. I think it's a perfect example of dubious judgement, because he did seem to sincerely regret his comment. But something like that is not only offensive towards the cricket commentator personally, but also to anyone who has gone through (unfortunately like me) who have gone through similar experiences. I wish we could kick all these fans, not only him and the City fans who mocked Junior's death, but also every fan like that of every fanbase, out of football, but it's an impossible task I believe.

Of course, but I do believe we have a reputation for that kind of thing. I'll just give you two examples. Millwall and Chelsea. Chelsea are renowned as a club with racist supporters, this is largely due to a few very prominent events that have "blown up" in a sense, primarily the incident with PSG fans in Paris in 2015, and the much more recent racial abuse of Raheem Sterling. Both were caught on camera so both are famous. But I don't believe the narrative that Chelsea are the club with the most racist fans in the Premier League, because, say, a player might get racially abused by say, a Leicester fan, it's just as bad as what he did, but if it's not caught on camera, no one will talk about it. And since Chelsea have a reputation, newspaper articles know that a racist Chelsea fan headline will get more clicks than if it was say, Newcastle or Watford. So I do think it's really hard to determine how many incidents there are, especially since I was shocked to learn Chelsea (from 2014-18) had nearly the racial abuse arrests that Manchester United had, who aren't regarded as racist a fanbase. The exact same's true for Millwall, I've gone to the Mem and seen Millwall get treated unlike any fanbase I'd ever seen in terms of police, stewards etc. because they have a reputation for violence. A millwall fan being violent will get much more coverage than a Brentford fan. Even if the Brentford fan behaves much worse. Rovers do have a, unfortunate but earned reputation, although not as extreme as either Millwall or Chelsea, for being horse punchers and attacking rival players, but I do believe that because of that anything we do in the future will be escalated, I think is the word. You're probably right though, but I don't believe it'd be as many incidents as you think, and I think other clubs, i.e. those without a reputation, might have more incidents than you think. If you understand what I'm saying.

Whilst I do think there is a possibility, I'd say perhaps 45% at the moment that Rovers will, say, get a new stadium in the next 10 years, perhaps at the fruit market, perhaps elsewhere, I think the 2 year target set by Wael is actually quite laughable. It'll take at least 5-7 if it happens, which I'm not too sure it will. I've always been one to be optimistic rather than pessimistic but there's only a certain amount of times you can believe new stadium rumours before severe scepticism sets in.

I was on this forum a few months ago, Aprilish under the name "Bodin." I'm more the debating type if anything, but I was told this forum wasn't the place to rationally debate City fans because it's intended to irrationally take the piss and nit-pick over everything the Gas does so I left. But if by playing nice you mean am I going to go guns blazing like Gas we go in marching or whatever his name is has, then unfortunately I'm not the sort, I know City are a bigger club than us and have a better set up than we'll ever have. I just came here to ask a question that not only undermines Rovers, but the whole football fan experience. I've seen a lot of criticism for the way some of the Rovers fans acted yesterday, I thought a lot of it was disgusting. I made the personal choice to respect what Taylor accomplished for the club and why he left, even if I still don't understand his logic behind the timing of the move, and so I didn't boo and I clapped him when he clapped us whilst going off the pitch. But I see a lot of generalisation of this forum that the actions of a few idiots on Gaschat, twitter, and at the Mem reflect the ideologies of all our fans. And in fact we've been one of the biggest critics of this as a fanbase. A City fan on Facebook posted regarding Junior Agogo's death "What will his funeral song be? Wake me up before Agogo?" The post received 18 likes I believe. Meanwhile, on this forum a lot of you posted praising Agogo and respecting his death, something which was very sincere. In the same way City fans have a few idiots but the large majority are completely different, the same is true for Rovers. Like I said this isn't even a Rovers or a City issue really, the actions of a few idiots give a false impression of what the majority of the fanbase is like. The too long didn't read version is, the actions of a couple Rovers fans don't reflect the actions and ideologies of the Rovers fanbase as a whole.

Me personally I've never understood the "Lady garden" insult. I like ladies and I have a knack for gardening, so if anything for me it's complimenting Taylor

It most certainly does get better! I’ve decided to grace you all with my presence once again! ????

A bit, but then I could've asked you last season whether you were annoyed that Cardiff got promoted, and I could say the same thing to Yeovil fans since it looks like they're going down to the conference. I've accepted the fact you're a bigger and better club than us, I'll be happy if Rovers do well subjectively. Because if I went off of City's standards I'd never be happy, ever. It's a better way to approach it.

I listened to it. A 23 year old footballer who's clearly very drunk phones into Belfield's show, a clearly provocative and argumentative interviewer who can't keep his cool (was sacked not too long after this because he refused to do a fan phone-in). But yes that definitely means that 41 year old Darrell Clarke is a knobhead. I have no doubt you were definitely rational, friendly and polite when pissed at the age of 23. Also show me the how them down the road thing.

Given the squad quality, yes.

We had a Conference level squad with a couple good players. And your squad were significantly underperforming at that time and you had the core of a Championship squad, just needed a couple extra players. Make no mistake, City's 13/14 squad where you finished 13th are leagues ahead of Rovers' 17/18 squad where they finished 13th.

The majority of the "loyal and true" think he's a good manager who was screwed by WAQ by selling all his best players and if he got a job where he was well backed he'd succeed. You think he's a thick and a bellend because he was the Rovers manager, but he's not. Same as I think LJ is a scrawny little rat because he's City manager.

Because with the squad he had he overachieved for two seasons and underachieved for 1 season imo

Probably, Stewart's a fan after all and they're obviously great mates. I won't argue with the failed league one manager bit because bit bored of all this now. Agree to disagree.

Quick question. Why is Taylor regarded as a legend for joining City from Rovers, but your fans all hate the idea of Clarke joining City? Because he was sacked and the easy comeback is we didn't want him anymore? Genuine question.

Don't need to, just look up Lee Johnson manager and Lee Johnson head coach and my point is proved. Almost every player he signed on paper was a good signing. However, Clarke didn't know about the attitude issues of Bennett or Payne, and our lack of goalscoring is the main reason we are where we are. He made a couple bad decisions transfer wise in regard to striker, but it would've been a miracle if otherwise, considering he was only given £500k to replace the £1.5 million in the player sales of our strike force. Massively overrated by who exactly? It's certainly not by the people on here? He had a conference quality squad and won back to back promotions, and when the few stars of his conference quality squad left, he was given significantly less backing to replace those players than what they'd received in fees. I've never said that, but the size of your club doesn't determine the quality of your players which wasn't high when he was manager. I couldn't care less about his off the field antics, I like the manager because having met him and Wael he's appreciative of the fans and if he hadn't rebuilt the club we'd likely be where Chesterfield or Hartlepool are now. No, at the time he was a good player and had a significant drop in form when he joined Rovers. If what you say was true, no player would flop, ever. Because they're such footballing men that they know whether a player's going to be successful or not.

The handful of posts tell us more than a handful of opinions. As the man said himself "everybody on here" wanted to sign Nichols. Even if that wasn't true in regards to every single member of this forum, enough people were going on about City potentially signing Nichols that he generalised and said everybody.

I'm not boring. I'm just not a) an absolute clown who would become a meme on this page, like Henbury Gas is (I think that's his name) b) a City fan or c) a Rovers fan who absolutely hates Rovers and is constantly making fun of them (essentially a City fan). Got to say Stevie, you're doing a pretty shit job at taking the piss, this is a PISSTAKE thread.

"Isn't he the one everybody on here wanted us to sign a year or 2 ago..?" - Bar BS3. It was 2 years ago because that was when Nichols signed for us which is the whole point. City fans can't go "Clarke was a bad judge of character with Nichols." If everybody on here (not my words remember) wanted him and were acting like he was too good for Rovers.

It was simply a possibility, a conjecture if you will. The far more likely situation is he was a bit bored and Stewart's a city fan so went with him to watch city. Okay, I'll sure a far better example. Appleton. When Leicester hired him they wouldn't have cared about his failure at Portsmouth, Blackpool and Blackburn, all they cared about was his success at Oxford (tbh Klopp was just the first manager who springed to mind).

Exactly! So how can City fans criticise Clarke's judge of character, when just a season before your fans were begging Johnson to sign Nichols, because you thought he was a good player.

"You're lying City fans didn't want Nichols!" *Shows proof a lot of City fans wanted Nichols* "Do you think anyone cares? You're a loser. Go to your own forum."

They're used interchangeably, head coaches have less focus on transfers than managers. But would you correct a City fan who said that Johnson was your best manager in years by saying "actually he's a head coach." Or is it just because i'm a Rovers fan that you're trying to correct me? I provided evidence of this in the quotes. The whole point was, failure at a level doesn't determine future success. When Liverpool hired Klopp they did so because of his success at Dortmund, they didn't care about whether he was poor in his last few seasons at Mainz and got them relegated. They focused on the positives and not the negatives. Similarly with Clarke, if they wanted to hire him, they'd focus on the positives. Appleton was hired as Leicester assistant manager from Oxford despite only doing slightly better than Clarke.

That City fans were advocating him to sign for you. Which is what I said. EDIT: Actually, it's not what I said, it's what your fans said.