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Shocking first 20 minutes Miah, could've been more than 3, but thought we did build into the game a lot and had good chances. Doncaster deserve the significant lead though. 81-1 for 3-4 26-1 for 3-3

It's pretty obvious they're joking

I did say that he was too good for Rovers weeks ago and Championship clubs would come calling and have been proven right. But I'm a bit shocked considering it's only been 2 months and it's his first goalscoring spree of his career.

There's an argument to be made for the rehabilitation of people into society as he's served his time, and he may have served less had he not been a professional footballer. So I can kind of understand the argument for why to. But there's many more reasons for why not. Football players are supposed to be role models, he's not one. The negative traction he would bring to the club would divide a club that has become together (so far) under Coughlan. And even from a footballing standpoint, he's been in prison for years, it'll take months for him to get back to full fitness, by which time it won't even be worth it. And frankly, wouldn't want someone who said whilst in prison he wished he'd have raped the girl ever to be a player I cheered on.

There's an argument to be made for the rehabilitation of people into society as he's served his time, and he may have served less had he not been a professional footballer. So I can kind of understand the argument for why to. But there's many more reasons for why not. Football players are supposed to be role models, he's not one. The negative traction he would bring to the club would divide a club that has become together (so far) under Coughlan. And even from a footballing standpoint, he's been in prison for years, it'll take months for him to get back to full fitness, by which time it won't even be worth it.

"Sky did say in one of their reports that things had got interesting `on and off the pitch`. I think it was after Argyle went 2-1 up. I presume social media will advise us what happened in the fullness of time." If the person who said this didn't care, they wouldn't be checking social media for it correct? Just wanted to inform them so they didn't have to look. I'm sure this thread would've been all over it if Clarke or Coughlan were even remotely in the wrong, I mean it was after Taylor's celebration against Oxford. Where the thread deemed him as a "scummy player who was perfect for a scummy club." If only they could have known then they'd sign that scummy player. I'm just surprised your fans haven't been all over the strong possibility that Adam Johnson could join Rovers. Was all over Gaschat. Rovers have one natural winger and have loaned out their second choice Sam Matthews as soon as Johnson is released, seems a bit too coincidental.

If that was true then maybe you'd have seen more than one comment about it than only one from "PAFC_James." And I wouldn't trust his opinion to be honest, openly admits in his tweets he follows 3 clubs, one of which is Bristol City, so of course he'd say that. If you can find a couple more comments all saying the same thing, whether on their forum or twitter or whatever, then I'll believe you.

There's 1736 in the English football system from the Premier League to level 11. I meant top club. No matter if you're Manchester United in the Premier League, or James King Blisworth in the Northamptonshire Combination Football League. You're all technically clubs. Although the difference in infrastructure, fanbase and every aspect of the club is about the same as me with a pair of boxing gloves and Muhammad Ali

I meant the dream of being a professional footballer. Anyone but Rovers fans would never dream of playing for Rovers obviously.

Knew this was going to be misunderstood. In the English football league system, from my counting. There are 1736 clubs (Had to use a calculator) (there's potentially hundreds more as the football league system is only defined to the 11th level of the pyramid). Therefore, I would deem the top 92 of those clubs as "top clubs." Clubs that are able to provide full-time careers for players. Maybe you thought I was calling Rovers a big club? They're not. I would also call the likes of Yeovil, Plymouth, Macclesfield, Lincoln, Morecambe etc. "top clubs." And no I didn't go to Home Park today.

Stuart Sinclair is everything I love about football to be honest. Didn't even play in the Conference until he was 26 and now he's a regular at a top club (might be misunderstood, as in he's come a long way. Now a full-time footballer). Great mentality, absolute workhorse, gives his all every game. He's fulfilled his dream. That being said wouldn't be too shocked if I saw a Stuart Sinclair doppelganger near Anchor Road.

Near FT some Plymouth fans refused to give the ball back to Rovers player James Clarke. After Rovers' equalised, at FT, he went over and cupped his ears with his hands to the supporters. Derek Adams went mental at him and was trying to get the ref to take action, Coughlan got involved and the argument continued down the tunnel. What's rather interesting is despite Plymouth's second-half of the season resurgence, Adams is hated by a lot of Plymouth fans, the majority of which (as seen on their forum), believed that Clarke and Coughlan were in the right. Coughlan is regarded as one of their best ever players though, so it's hard to tell whether it was just because they were against Coughlan. I just think the situation was hypocritical, Adams did the exact same thing when Plymouth beat Rovers last season. He went 6 at the back and threw his toys out of the pram when the manager who changed things up to get a point got it.

Personally I would say after the whole Taylor fiasco I would assume the club wouldn't be that stupid. Especially since Taylor's circumstances were he refused to commit unless there was a release clause as he'd wanted to join Oxford. And Coughlan being a massive fan of his I can't see him having been okay with a release clause either, calling him one of the best strikers in the league when he signed (although both City and Rovers fans alike laughed he doesn't look wrong right now), and Clarke-Harris wouldn't have much need to demand one imo. BUT. It's Rovers so you never know, and Lee Johnson was a massive fan of his when he was at Oldham.

The figure that was banded around a lot during the takeover was The Arab Jordan Investment Bank, which the Al Qadi family founded had £1.7 billion in total assets.Which created a HUGE misconception. They also have liabilities of £1.5 billion. So their business has approximately £200m in net assets with £197m being attributable to the bank's shareholders. Now take into consideration that the Al Qadi family only own around a 30% share in the business. Meaning we have the Al Qadi family at around £60m net wealth. They have investments in other businesses but the bank is their main source of wealth.

My opinion on it was they thought they could get UWE and that Rovers would shoot up in value, and as soon as they realised they couldn't they lost interest. But the issue, and the reason I was never too hopeful of "evolution not revolution" is because this very rarely happens. The whole billionaire invests in a small club bucket-loads of money has sold many teams the false dream of foreign owners. Has only happened to Wolves, Chelsea and Man City in this country. And even then all 3 were miles higher on the football pyramid than Rovers. The best comparison I can think of is the takeover of fifth-tier German side SSV Markranstädt, who were refounded as Redbull Leipzig with a change in colours and club name. They shot up the football pyramid and are now 3rd in the Bundesliga. But the question begs, would you want that to happen to your club? I wouldn't want Rovers to be rebranded as "Redbull Bristol." But even with that comparison there was huge potential as there were no big clubs from Leipzig and of course Redbull is miles richer than the Al Qadis could ever be. Wael's support of Prince Ali bin Hussein for FIFA president also showed to me that he wasn't going to be this owner we could only dream of, he was going to be someone who followed the rules at all cost.

Only Rovers could get the only Middle Eastern owners who won't spend money.

To be honest I'd have even preferred the Creek to the Mem for that photo.

And i've already claimed they're idiots so what point are you trying to prove about a selected few of a fanbase (a mentality that exists for any fanbase). Ah yes, I'll go back 20 hours to when I was on a coach just so I could take a picture to prove to the "Bristol Rovers dustin thread," on "One team in Bristol" to prove I was at a game that I was at. I've got so many replies of "you should be celebrating your win rather than be on our forum" when I debate City fans at half-time and on the coach home, but there's been very little said on the loyal City fans who were replying to me when their match was actually on. Because you account for your form as a whole, I can understand excluding the honeymoon period of the team in December (even though it's very unusual for a team to have such a drastic change in form because of the appointment of a new manager with 0 managerial experience). And anyway, a honeymoon period is when a new manager is hired and the players perform better for a very short amount of time before the normality of the pre-appointment form returns. You're essentially going "ignoring your good results, your team has been on bad form." And to answer your question, he was signed on January 31st. He had his first start against Portsmouth on the 19th of February, where he scored. He played against Sunderland and didn't score, and that takes us now to March, where he's scored 5 goals in 4 games.

Fair enough, can never really know. But I personally think Ipswich were high enough up in the table to expect not be relegated, although that has been the contrary, but who knows? And even if we did get the extra £250k, not like we'd spend it on anything worthwhile. And yes I did, ahem, thank you.

"Our lot's mantra." Your whole argument is "a couple Rovers fans think this so you must think it!!!" I got the train down to London in the morning and spent the day in London and then caught the train to Gillingham and then caught the coach back. I went on this forum at halftime and then left at the final whistle, took a couple of minutes to walk to the coach and went on it again. I went down to London in the day beforehand and then caught the coach back. It's a game of football mate, chill out mr "17st of rage." Nope. A city smaller than Bristol then, where there's a larger proportion of fansize to the population. It's on the coach mate I didn't have much else to do. My guess is now you will criticise all of Gert Mare steviestevieneville wood_red Vincent Vega h hills left shoe who all posted during the City game? Wouldn't want to be inconsistent would you? Or is it only okay if City fans post during games? Smaller than Bristol with a larger proportion of fanbase added into the mix then. Don't have a picture because why would I take one? None, the odds on the winning teams are low, and there's still millions of people who bet a lot of money and lose it on high-risk but high-reward bets That's fair enough, I wish Rovers had more fans to be honest, we should. Guess it just feels a bit different at games to be honest, you're so focused on the team you don't really notice if 500 more people go or leave, especially since it's a standing area. I think we have good fans though, of course there's always some who are complete idiots but that's the same for every fanbase. I don't check the forum much but an example i'm going to use is Chelsea away from home, now, this may be a really common example given by Rovers fans that your fans have completely debunked, I don't know. But I thought we gave a really good showing that day, now of course you could make the argument that any club would do that, but that's not really the case. Hell, in the Chelsea fan-cams and twitter accounts after the game they were going on about the Rovers fans, and they get a lot of away fans from lower-league clubs. They don't do that for many fans. I don't think that's an argument specifically for Rovers to be honest, I just think fans from our general area of the country are passionate and give good support, even in low-numbers. Clubs like Rovers, Plymouth, Swindon, City I'd say. Although of the four City of course have the most. Evidence from 3 years ago? When you were doing terribly in the Championship? The City forums were all about Rovers when we went down, lost Taylor, sacked Darrell etc. And no it's not, it's if those two fans went to the pub and talked about Rovers for 5 minutes every day for 3 and a half years. You say this about Rovers fans wanting to get in scraps, but it's clear the 6 foot 2 man mountain who commented earlier would be exactly the same for City. I've never been the fighting type when it comes to football, at the end of the day it's just a sport. Maybe it's because i've had to debate City fans all my life so I'm used to the bantering I get (the whole of my mum's side are City fans, and the majority of my Dad's fans are also City fans, but he supports Rovers because he went to the games with his granddad the same as I do now with him as much as possible). Ah yes, the Taylor debacle did hurt, but in all honesty I can't remember many Championship clubs being interested in him and I personally think the only reason City did it was because they were scared we might go up. I agree with the Bristol United comment and the mutual hatred for each other will always be there. But to be fair Bristol as a city has produced a lot of good young players over the years, in recent memory Joe Bryan, Tom Lockyer, Lloyd Kelly etc. I did see there's been more England internationals born outside of England then there has been from the north-west. Each set of fans seem to think that the Post is biased towards the other. But from my knowledge Rovers or City haven't produced any world-class talent since Bradford and Atyeo. As a fan I almost wish I could've supported Rovers in that era. Although our club is obviously more likely to fold than City's, I really don't think we're anywhere near that bad, and I don't think we're at risk of that. Hell even if our club did shoot down in the leagues I imagine it would be a similar situation than Hartlepool and Leyton Orient, although then again Wael is nowhere near as bad as the owners they had. it took like 5 minutes at halftime pal. I'm near the back, but the photo quality is too poor to effectively point me out.

Average home attendance of Port Vale is 4,271, and they only look to be going down with their owner, have a mate who's a Port Vale fan and their owner's a lot worse than our's. Did I say loyal and true? And probably long-term yes, the Mem is that bad. A shiny new stadium is bound to attract more fans than the tents. I'm actually on the coach home from the match, Clarke-Harris scored a screamer. I went on this at halftime and i'm on it now. The post seems to be light-hearted, although I could be wrong but I think you're taking it too literally. So we never talk about you on our forum, but yet we're obsessed? Just seems ridiculously hypocritical. Give an example of a city the size of Bristol or bigger then, a two-club city, where the club on the lower-end have as big a quality gap as Rovers and City do, and they get a lot more fans than Rovers at games? Excluding London of course. Also couldn't you use the exact same argument for saying your crowds should be bigger than they are? Especially considering your investment and media spotlight? Again, not a dig, a genuine question. And in case you go "yes but our crowds are better than yours," I've never said City aren't miles ahead of Rovers. In fact i've said it repeatedly and yet a lot of the fans in this thread are still trying to paint the picture I think all the things that the most stupid of the Rovers fanbase believe.

Not at all, I even admitted I was wrong but can you not say Johnson's not had sustained periods of horrific form in the seasons 16/17 and 17/18 and it looks like it's happening again atm

I know I'd much rather see a stadium that was near-full than a stadium half empty. Of course the 5k stadium thing is too far but maybe i'd care less about the Mem if 1. it wasn't a shit stadium and 2. we had an owner who backed us.

A nicer stadium for the possibility of attracting more fans, because let's be honest the Mem is a ******* shithole.

February isn't halfway through the season mate, going off of the 2016-17 season, the halfway point is obviously when 23 league matches have been played. February begins on gameweek 29. Yes Clarke was under-performing, he became frustrated that the team he had tried to build kept taking several hits. It seems we're in dispute over the 2016/17 season, as you've agreed the 2017/18 was a downturn in form from the halfway point, and I've agreed that the 2015/16 season is a counterexample to that, albeit the form of a new manager with a lot of underperforming players. From gameweek 24, you played 23 games, a maximum of 69 points. You received 27 from my count. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I counted 7 wins, 6 draws and 10 losses. That's not too poor to be honest, maybe i'll reevaluate my theory, that City always have a long-lasting patch under Johnson of awful form every season.