Boring Sag

1 minute ago, Slacker said:

Marcus Trescothick I believe.Keynsham born England international who gave up international cricket due to mental health issues.An awful thing,Good luck with your fight with it.

It's all thankfully in the past. But seeing someone say such an unkind thing, especially something I've gone through, not really sure how else to put it but, sucked. 

6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think part of the problem, is that there are so few* of you. Therefore, every incident in magnified.

*That is me both praising your recognition, whilst simultaneously mocking you.

I agree. It's much more magnified than say if the same number of fans did it at Manchester United. But for certain clubs I don't think it's the case, like Chelsea for example. Chelsea have a bigger fanbase than Leicester but the 14-18 racial arrests showed (if I'm right from memory) that Leicester had more. Regarding Rovers though I think you're right, but it is still a very small portion of the overall fanbase. 

2 minutes ago, Slacker said:

I think a bit of leg pulling either way is fair game,but disappointed to think any City fans would mock Junior's death.All clubs of course have fans with "dubious judgement",not that I am defending them with regard to Junior.Lots of fans on here enjoy the input of fans from other clubs.I think OTIB is all the better for having objective opinion from fans of rival clubs.

Every fanbase does unfortunately have fans like that though. On Gaschat the other day there was a fan who I believe mocked the fact that a cricket commentator who criticised Rovers (not sure who precisely, as I hadn't heard of him nor do I watch cricket) had I believe gone through periods of depression and contemplation about suicide. I think it's a perfect example of dubious judgement, because he did seem to sincerely regret his comment. But something like that is not only offensive towards the cricket commentator personally, but also to anyone who has gone through (unfortunately like me) who have gone through similar experiences. I wish we could kick all these fans, not only him and the City fans who mocked Junior's death, but also every fan like that of every fanbase, out of football, but it's an impossible task I believe. 

2 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

You hit the nail on the head when you said it’s a football thing, it’s just the way it is. Those mentioning whatever it may be, know it’s not the majority.

In all seriousness though, you lot despite what you claim to be, seem to have more incidents than most clubs.

Of course, but I do believe we have a reputation for that kind of thing. I'll just give you two examples. Millwall and Chelsea. Chelsea are renowned as a club with racist supporters, this is largely due to a few very prominent events that have "blown up" in a sense, primarily the incident with PSG fans in Paris in 2015, and the much more recent racial abuse of Raheem Sterling. Both were caught on camera so both are famous. But I don't believe the narrative that Chelsea are the club with the most racist fans in the Premier League, because, say, a player might get racially abused by say, a Leicester fan, it's just as bad as what he did, but if it's not caught on camera, no one will talk about it. And since Chelsea have a reputation, newspaper articles know that a racist Chelsea fan headline will get more clicks than if it was say, Newcastle or Watford. So I do think it's really hard to determine how many incidents there are, especially since I was shocked to learn Chelsea (from 2014-18) had nearly the racial abuse arrests that Manchester United had, who aren't regarded as racist a fanbase. The exact same's true for Millwall, I've gone to the Mem and seen Millwall get treated unlike any fanbase I'd ever seen in terms of police, stewards etc. because they have a reputation for violence. A millwall fan being violent will get much more coverage than a Brentford fan. Even if the Brentford fan behaves much worse. Rovers do have a, unfortunate but earned reputation, although not as extreme as either Millwall or Chelsea, for being horse punchers and attacking rival players, but I do believe that because of that anything we do in the future will be escalated, I think is the word. You're probably right though, but I don't believe it'd be as many incidents as you think, and I think other clubs, i.e. those without a reputation, might have more incidents than you think. If you understand what I'm saying. 

1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said:

Welcome.

In keeping with the spirit of your post, do you think Rovers will be playing football in a new stadium at the fruit market 2 years from now?

Whilst I do think there is a possibility, I'd say perhaps 45% at the moment that Rovers will, say, get a new stadium in the next 10 years, perhaps at the fruit market, perhaps elsewhere, I think the 2 year target set by Wael is actually quite laughable. It'll take at least 5-7 if it happens, which I'm not too sure it will. I've always been one to be optimistic rather than pessimistic but there's only a certain amount of times you can believe new stadium rumours before severe scepticism sets in. 

7 minutes ago, Unan said:

Man they're still hurting 

 

Yeah, we believe you Snake.

It looked to me that you were totally taken aback at the strength of feeling against you.

You really are some sort of special **** if you thought we would have forgotten your act of treachery you little Lady Garden.

We all saw the look of fear on your sh1tty little face with your sex doll mouth, no doubt useful for when you had to suck Lansdowns dick, and if you ever return to the Mem in the future in a coaching role, and I doubt you're clever enough for such a job, you'll get the same after 20 years.

So post your bullshit Instagram posts for the shitheads benefit, but don't think they ever cared about you, and in 6 months it will be Matty who?

I reckon you've lost it now, you're nearly 30 and injury prone. I reckon that next summer Oxford will show you the door just like they did before, and the sh** will wash their hands of you, you've served their purpose. Enjoy working in a supermarket stacking shelves, you little Lady Garden.

Me personally I've never understood the "Lady garden" insult. I like ladies and I have a knack for gardening, so if anything for me it's complimenting Taylor

2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

A City 3-1 away win , Stokes performs super human with a bat .... and

Gas Go Marching In has a dabble in OTIB 

Does it get better .....

If Carling did Bank Holiday weekends .....

It most certainly does get better! I’ve decided to grace you all with my presence once again!

9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

@bodin just out of interest, does it irk you that our current league position, as of tonight, having dropped down a place, courtesy of Aston Villa’s win, is the same as the highest position that you have EVER finished a league season..? 

A bit, but then I could've asked you last season whether you were annoyed that Cardiff got promoted, and I could say the same thing to Yeovil fans since it looks like they're going down to the conference. I've accepted the fact you're a bigger and better club than us, I'll be happy if Rovers do well subjectively. Because if I went off of City's standards I'd never be happy, ever. It's a better way to approach it. 

7 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Not at all, listening to him asking how them down the road got on, live on Radio tells you the sort of bloke he is, I’d have a listen to this and then you come back and tell me the blokes not as thick as two short planks......

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9nMvOUngsbQ

I listened to it. A 23 year old footballer who's clearly very drunk phones into Belfield's show, a clearly provocative and argumentative interviewer who can't keep his cool (was sacked not too long after this because he refused to do a fan phone-in). But yes that definitely means that 41 year old Darrell Clarke is a knobhead. I have no doubt you were definitely rational, friendly and polite when pissed at the age of 23. 

Also show me the how them down the road thing. 

1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

So our woefully bad management at a time a few years before, makes DC’s management good, because he achieved what we managed at pretty much our lowest eb since the mid 1980’s..?! 

#mindthegap

Given the squad quality, yes. 

1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

His squad, no..? 

I think you are deluded about the level of league one. A league that we walked at a canter with 99 points only fairly recently. 

10th place in League one is no level of over achievement. 

We had a Conference level squad with a couple good players. And your squad were significantly underperforming at that time and you had the core of a Championship squad, just needed a couple extra players. Make no mistake, City's 13/14 squad where you finished 13th are leagues ahead of Rovers' 17/18 squad where they finished 13th. 

3 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

By the majority of the loyal and true that’s who, even a couple on here think he’s good. 

Ah yes that good old ‘he’s a lovely bloke’ line again. Clarke is a proved that on  many occasion, thick as shit too.

The majority of the "loyal and true" think he's a good manager who was screwed by WAQ by selling all his best players and if he got a job where he was well backed he'd succeed. 

You think he's a thick and a bellend because he was the Rovers manager, but he's not. Same as I think LJ is a scrawny little rat because he's City manager. 

1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

If you’re bored, then feel free to leave. 

How would you regard him as anything other than a failed league one manager..? Seeing as he failed at league one level..?! 

Because with the squad he had he overachieved for two seasons and underachieved for 1 season imo

1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

I don’t think anybody wants Clarke at City, on the face of it. He’s a failed league one manager. 

Maybe he had strong coaching credentials, which LJ admires and what’s to make use of..? Who knows. 

I don’t think that’s the case, but if LJ sees fit to give Clarke a job, then I’ll trust his judgement. 

Chsnces are he was just watching a game of football though, seeing as he’s not sat with any BCFC officials. 

Probably, Stewart's a fan after all and they're obviously great mates. I won't argue with the failed league one manager bit because bit bored of all this now. Agree to disagree. 

5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

But “everyone” used to think that Matty Taylor was a scummy gashead **** aswell. 

We were wrong then too..! 

Quick question. Why is Taylor regarded as a legend for joining City from Rovers, but your fans all hate the idea of Clarke joining City? Because he was sacked and the easy comeback is we didn't want him anymore? Genuine question. 

28 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

To echo the recent posts of fellow posters, you need to know where to stop because you're boring now. You're a guest on this forum but are beginning to out stay your welcome, imho.

I have no need to challenge fellow, City supporting posters because we are all very used to the organizational roles of our coaching team. I can't remember LJ  being referred to as our manager in recent time although no doubt you'll correct me by trawling through OTIB history.

You have posted comments attributed to other posters; I'll leave them - especially @Monkeh - to put their comments into context but I see nothing to suggest any interest in the £500k+ ex-goalscoring striker you signed.

Don't need to, just look up Lee Johnson manager and Lee Johnson head coach and my point is proved. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

I’m sure they were. Looking at the dog botherers record when Wally actually got his wallet out (when a blue moon appeared) his signings have been absolute shite. So in your opinion because a handful of City fans said he was half decent that means Clarke’s judgement is fine? If his judgement was even the slightest bit any good then surely you wouldn’t be struggling at the bottom of a piss poor L1?

DC imo is massively overrated, ‘but he got 2 promotions blah blah blah’ yes from NON LEAGUE and L2  all I hear from your lot is how big a club and how great you are etc so surely it was the least you lot should of been expecting? The only reason you lot think is the messiah is because of his off the field antics, that embarrassing video of him down the pub slating Grimsby, and then ‘how did them lot get on down the road’

Blokes a complete fvcking tool mate

Almost every player he signed on paper was a good signing. However, Clarke didn't know about the attitude issues of Bennett or Payne, and our lack of goalscoring is the main reason we are where we are. He made a couple bad decisions transfer wise in regard to striker, but it would've been a miracle if otherwise, considering he was only given £500k to replace the £1.5 million in the player sales of our strike force. 

Massively overrated by who exactly? It's certainly not by the people on here? He had a conference quality squad and won back to back promotions, and when the few stars of his conference quality squad left, he was given significantly less backing to replace those players than what they'd received in fees. I've never said that, but the size of your club doesn't determine the quality of your players which wasn't high when he was manager. I couldn't care less about his off the field antics, I like the manager because having met him and Wael he's appreciative of the fans and if he hadn't rebuilt the club we'd likely be where Chesterfield or Hartlepool are now.

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

And they were ******* WRONG. The difference being they are just normal football fans who have passing opinions on players. The *** you are talking about is supposed to be a professional within the game and yet, apparently came to same conclusion after presumably scouting and analysing the player. The evidence is that he is no better at his job than a couple of average football fans.  Thank you proving that for us.

No, at the time he was a good player and had a significant drop in form when he joined Rovers. If what you say was true, no player would flop, ever. Because they're such footballing men that they know whether a player's going to be successful or not. 

1 minute ago, JBFC II said:

You literally quoted a handful of posts and have now claimed them to be the views of everyone on here. 

as good a poster as @Bar BS3 is, his views aren’t always shared by the other 20000 plus people to descend on Ashton gate every week...

The handful of posts tell us more than a handful of opinions. As the man said himself "everybody on here" wanted to sign Nichols. Even if that wasn't true in regards to every single member of this forum, enough people were going on about City potentially signing Nichols that he generalised and said everybody. 

1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

@bodin 

the reason for the is because you’re boring , honestly . I don’t care about your points , good , bad or indifferent. It’s boring. No ones interested. 

Please do not reply to me , I’m losing the will to live . 

I'm not boring. I'm just not a) an absolute clown who would become a meme on this page, like Henbury Gas is (I think that's his name) b) a City fan or c) a Rovers fan who absolutely hates Rovers and is constantly making fun of them (essentially a City fan). 

Got to say Stevie, you're doing a pretty shit job at taking the piss, this is a PISSTAKE thread. 

3 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

People telling you that you shouldn’t bother to post on here because we really couldn’t care that a few fans said we should look at Tom nicholls 2 years ago...

About 7 of our fans said we should look at him...

Hardly begging or is it any percentage of our fan base...

"Isn't he the one everybody on here wanted us to sign a year or 2 ago..?" - Bar BS3. It was 2 years ago because that was when Nichols signed for us which is the whole point. City fans can't go "Clarke was a bad judge of character with Nichols." If everybody on here (not my words remember) wanted him and were acting like he was too good for Rovers. 

1 minute ago, BanburyRed said:

Where is any evidence that DC is being tipped for a job at the Gate? Non existent. We're doing v nicely with our current management/coaching set up at present. The only job for DC is sweeping the stadium clean.

As for putting DC in same sentence as Klopp, delusion. Whether you're making a point or not.

It was simply a possibility, a conjecture if you will. The far more likely situation is he was a bit bored and Stewart's a city fan so went with him to watch city. 

Okay, I'll sure a far better example. Appleton. When Leicester hired him they wouldn't have cared about his failure at Portsmouth, Blackpool and Blackburn, all they cared about was his success at Oxford (tbh Klopp was just the first manager who springed to mind). 

9 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Glad we didn’t what a stinking pile of he’s turning out to be.

Exactly! So how can City fans criticise Clarke's judge of character, when just a season before your fans were begging Johnson to sign Nichols, because you thought he was a good player. 

7 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

And do you actually think anyone cares?

Like really?

"You're lying City fans didn't want Nichols!"

*Shows proof a lot of City fans wanted Nichols*

"Do you think anyone cares? You're a loser. Go to your own forum."

4 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

As is becoming all too often on this City forum, you draw out discussion to the point where most of us lose the will to read any more. However you do sometimes talk such bollocks that you can't be allowed to be unchallenged.

Head coach and manager are not interchangeable terms, except to the unenlightened. The focus of a head coach is the fitness, training, tactics and selection of the first team; he doesn't get involved in the transfer or contracts processes; he's not responsible for scouting. A head scout often works in conjunction with a DoF; we don't have a DoF. We do have Mark Ashton who performs or oversees many of the functions of that position. A head coach should be capable of replacement without change being necessary to all of the backroom staff; when Sam Allardyce takes up a new role, he brings with him an entourage encompassing most of the backroom roles. He's a manager NOT a coach. The terms are NOT interchangeable.

I have NEVER, EVER  heard of any City supporter who suggested we go for the highly prolific Nichols. You'll need to show proof of this or withdraw the assertion. It's far to easy to make a sweeping statement which has absolutely no substance in fact ( you're in good company because this is the preferred style or Donald Trump).

I'm certainly not playing devils advocate. Rather than answer the point I raised, you choose to conflate Darrell Clarke with Jürgen Klopp! That's rather a step change isn't it? The question was obviously too difficult. I asked how the Assistant Manager of a 'relegated out of the League' team - with zero experience of the Championship and a flaky record in League One - can be a suitable Assistant Manager for a top six Championship club? The question is moot and doesn't require a response, thanks. The answer is, he can't.

They're used interchangeably, head coaches have less focus on transfers than managers. But would you correct a City fan who said that Johnson was your best manager in years by saying "actually he's a head coach." Or is it just because i'm a Rovers fan that you're trying to correct me? 

I provided evidence of this in the quotes.

The whole point was, failure at a level doesn't determine future success. When Liverpool hired Klopp they did so because of his success at Dortmund, they didn't care about whether he was poor in his last few seasons at Mainz and got them relegated. They focused on the positives and not the negatives. Similarly with Clarke, if they wanted to hire him, they'd focus on the positives. Appleton was hired as Leicester assistant manager from Oxford despite only doing slightly better than Clarke. 

1 minute ago, BCFC11 said:

 

What are you trying to prove here? That some thought Nichols is/was a decent player?

How wrong were they? Cost you more than we paid for the Snake aswell

That City fans were advocating him to sign for you. Which is what I said. 

EDIT: Actually, it's not what I said, it's what your fans said.