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Think that was verbal diarrhoea; didn’t come out as he meant to. I think he was saying if you aren’t going to score at least keep it tight at the back and walk away with a point. Pretty banal thing to say though isn’t it - probably why Tinnion wanted him, a very basic concept which his limited intellect can understand

So you want us to give him too much time? The writing is on the wall. He’s lost the fans, lost the dressing room, out of ideas, blaming other people and absolving himself of any responsibility, and has not shown in his previous roles an ability to stop the rot. Hes had 20 games, the rest of the season and 10 into next would be a full seasons worth of games - in excess of an average tenure of a championship manager.

There’s really not much to like about him or his personality traits.

He even said in the post match interview the goal came from a set piece tactic they coached them to be ready for. That went …king well didn’t it

Very tongue in cheek mate - reacting to Manning saying 1 poor performance in 20 pre match. i can count the good games on one hand; and my favourite game is pinfinger.

Lose to Swansea and he’ll have to go

Is that 2 poor performances in 21? Absolute clown

Agree

Surely Netflix can find some celeb to front private equity and buy the lot; imagine the documentary

And I don’t think much can be read into how quickly they could appoint his successor. Everyone knew they weren’t renewing his contract, of course they would have already been at quite advanced stages with some candidates.

They sacked Joey unfortunately

I think he gets a very rough ride from fans. He's a lot better than given credit for. All goalkeepers make mistakes and these tend to lead to goals. His tend to come in quick succession but ultimately over the course of the season I don't think he has more than his peers. In terms of his distribution it's clear he is asked to find players in the wider areas and this is always going to have a lower % of success. But he's following the process and I do think his distribution has improved and will continue to improve. He's also soon going to come into his prime. I've seen it said here that he's perfectly good enough for a mid table championship team, I agree with that as a baseline but think he wouldn't look out of place in a promotion chasing side, and I don't think the championship is his ceiling.

I actually like the sound that; penalties probably a bit crap though no offence But some sort of bonus point system favouring attacking play I don’t think would be awful.

You’ve had a gert mare with that joke

I’d take tonight. Lose tonight and the season is over. We aren’t going down as much as we aren’t going up; although agree league form needs addressing

Tinnion shouldn’t be saying a thing about the manager’s selection or who should start.

I remember reading a post on her going through all the comments made and I don’t think he did actually say it verbatim but it was implied. Agree he shouldn’t get a pass, and I don’t think he’s going to get it, but it is very overused.

It 100% is protectionism to protect their currency. Money spent in India stays there

You’ve pretty much summed up why he’s McInnes to me. I think Manning will learn a lot from his time here just as McInnes did, but in both cases I fear these lessons will come as a result of reflection after leaving rather than learning on the job. As a club I simply don’t think we are geared up for a young progressive manager because of the leadership. And the irony is they are desperate to do it with a young progressive manager.

He’d be a very strange Leeds fan as I’ve seen him dozens of times over the past couple of years.

It’s incredible it’s a debate davefevs. It should be a resounding acceptance of a shocker tonight - which can happen, that’s fine - what’s not fine is having no attempt at an answer. If it wasn’t for an excellent performance from Max that was a cricket score tonight. And for all the Max doubters, for him to bounce back from Cov with a game like that… well played that man

Leeds looked very well coached in how to beat us and our system that’s for sure. ‘They aren’t comfortable on the ball so put them under pressure; there are gaps all over the pitch with how they set up so run into space, and when they attack just block off the passing option’.

Yeah sacking any time soon would be baffling. As another poster mentioned as a club we’ve clearly decided we’re safe this season and are eyeing up the next by the way we’ve acted during the window - and I don’t disagree with our approach necessarily. But I need to see him be more proactive and reactionary. It’s going to take some tremendous bad form for us not to start next season with him in charge, and I think he gets the chance to bring in players that suit the budget and improve the squad, but I wouldn’t give him many chances if we start next season badly and he hasn’t shown more ability to impact a game before then.

For me, he’s Derek McInnes

Agree but again I don’t think that needs to flavour the debate about Manning. I don’t and never did expect him to get us top six and I dismiss that as even a possibility. But I absolutely expect him to set us up to be competitive in every game, and at home set us up to have a fighting chance to win. He gets a big fat F tonight regardless of who came before him, what the board said, and the fact he didn’t change it in the first half concerns me. That he didn’t change during the half time break concerns me, that his reaction was to stick with the same approach but to remove wells and bring on / move players to their natural position (arguments on that front because I think his general playing patters and formation aren’t natural to our squad), but keep the same approach that Leeds had completely nullified, concerns me. He has really left himself open to criticism tonight and if I was BT I would want to be with him for his post-game analysis/review for him to explain some of his in game decisions and thoughts. Because that wasn’t good enough and he’s had a really bad night at the office.