lenred

Still no one can explain to me what the issue is. If people have paid for a ticket and want to spend 90 mins goading the away fans then who really cares? It’s not affecting anyone. I personally would rather that than what I see more of these days - people just sat there looking at their phones for 90 mins! There is a lot of those people around, that’s for sure and I’m not sure what they are doing to improve any atmosphere.

Are there? Really? If there are I’d imagine it’s a very very very small number. And even if there are why would it bother you? Or anyone else? Pays your money etc etc.

Is it? Well excuse my ignorance then. And as long as they aren’t hurting anyone what does it matter to you or indeed anyone else whether they are ‘eyeballing’ opposition fans (not really sure how they are doing it from 20metres away, especially further up the stand where you can’t even see the away end but there we go) IMO If anyone is ‘weird’ it’s people like you getting completely bent out of shape about our fans trying to produce an atmosphere, coming up with desperate reasons as to why it shouldn’t be allowed.

Can you expand on what you mean?

No one has said that have they?

Yep fair play, agree.

Yep concede thats also possible but Swansea was a really good atmosphere as well - second half at least! Can’t remember if he mentioned it then. He was very enthusiastic about Saturday.

Why would Pearson mention it? He specifically mentioned the atmosphere and how great it was on Saturday amd how it helped the players. Why would Twentyman and Honor mention it as well? Better atmosphere helps everyone. Whether you can hear it or not is not the issue. It filters around. The more noise the better. Or at least that’s what I always thought.

It would help if you would clarify but appreciate you may not want to.

Yeah I may have used a bit of artistic licence there! But I feel the point remains - the atmosphere since the rebuild has just got progressively worse and is at its lowest ebb. And those trying to actively do something about it should be hugely encouraged like you say. And completely agree it should be done with consideration for others but it should be organic - not some forced, club sanctioned ‘singing area’ like we have already. We don’t need any more of those.

What is making you worried? What do you and everyone else that is so against this think that will specifically happen at Bristol City that doesn’t happen at all grounds that have home and away fans in some kind of close proximity? What can possibly happen they can’t feasibly happen already?

Well I presume you do support Bristol City and I’ve not said you don’t? But you also post about your very keen regard for Millwall - hence my point. I like going to Millwall as well. It’s a proper club. Which is what I want our club to be. A club with a heart and not some plastic happy clappy soulless entity. And I have read your posts. They seem very anti those trying to improve the atmosphere hidden under some veil that everyone doing it must be doing something wrong - which imho is completely your prerogative but a big shame.

On Saturday I walked past at about 2.55pm and there was a big queue coming back down the stairs into the concourse. Must’ve been checking surely or else why the big queue. That’s what I presumed anyway.

I’m not going to get into Millwalls reputation. I couldn’t care less about it but to say it’s down to a ‘few’ is pushing it. I got the knife slitting action directed towards me when I was 12 and in the subsequent 30 years I have seen many incidents involving them with a lot more involved than a few - both in person and online or in the media. But I digress. It just strikes me as very odd that someone so supportive about such a club who have plenty of issues would be so very anti their own club showing trying to show a bit more passion. Of course there will be issues but it can get ironed out organically I’m sure and I haven’t seen that Saturday caused anything awful (it may be out there fwiw). Just don’t understand the vehement attitude against it, especially from someone who loves Millwall!

Why does anyone wanting to make an atmosphere have to speak to the club about anything? As long as you pay for your ticket and don’t upset fellow fans? You are well known on here for your love / respect of Millwall - do you think their fans consult with the club every time they want to make a racket - which they do even when there isn’t many of them? Surely you love Millwall because of this atmosphere not in spite of it? So why are you so vocal in being against our own fans making an effort? Genuinely baffled.

Yep. Lansdown wants good little boys who sit on their hands and don’t say boo to anything or anyone. It’s infuriating. We used to be a club that was recognised for its fan base - for being vocal, for being intimidating, for creating an atmosphere. Now we are just a pleasant day out for away fans. I used to laugh at teams like Yeovil, Fulham, Wycombe and Reading and their boring, happy clappy atmospheres but sadly we have become just like them and it seems a fair few people are very happy with that, not just Lansdown. It’s a shame as atmosphere is what got so many of us into football in the first place.

Yep, 100%. Needs to be supported for the greater good of everyone attending who surely must enjoy a better atmosphere, I completely agree and it was great to hear Pearson and others in the media comment about it on Saturday after the game. But the lads going in there must respect those that are in there at the moment, firstly for common decencies sake and secondly to ensure that there are no issues (or as little as possible) whilst any transition happens.

Mentioned it a few times - this happens at a lot of Prem games, including at derbies like this with a lot of needle. We have massive massive overkill at our place - although was very pleased to see it go well yesterday and for it to be widely acknowledged how good the atmosphere was by Nige and Twentyman and Honor on Radio Bristol amongst others. Hopefully the club will start to get it.

I should just trot off back to Sag ville if I were you

My thoughts exactly. A complete and utter piss take!

Where’s the tiny violin emoji when you need it for the vile Scouse ****.

Apparently Ashley Down is their equivalent. Living in the area I really hope it gets built!

It was a poor attempt at humour RR. Agree completely. Although it’s not being organised by anyone on OTIB afaik.

Can’t believe you think there is one as it’s not been on the OS!

Bugger bugger bugger.