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43 minutes ago, Red Shadow said:

Before Eight - Kathy Thompson Band

Time……David Bowie

I thought that throughout the game he struggled with the concept that ‘being vaguely near the ball’ and ‘making an attempt to play the ball’ are two different things. I lost count of the number of times he allowed Wednesday players to push, shove, and simply run into our players to knock them off the ball.

And that incident near the end when McCrorie was barged off the ball - that wasn’t a shoulder to shoulder challenge, it was a shoulder barge on a player running with the ball. 

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

You’ll probably be stood next to WSM today without knowing it!

I don’t think so. The bloke next to me stayed astonishingly positive right up to the 94th minute!

However, a couple of rows back there was a very loud cry, on the final whistle, of ‘don’t think I’m staying behind to clap that, Manning’………so, maybe

32 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

My enthusiasm has waned big time since travelling to QPR, Huddersfield and Blackburn before Christmas to witness boring sideways passing football. In fairness I also went to Southampton and that wasn't too bad. 

I can not comment on Watford Away or Southampton at home as I did not see those games.

Sunderland, Millwall, Leeds, QPR at home have been 4 of the worst I have seen for years (ok Lincoln and WBA, last year were terrible too). Watford wasn't great.

I have stopped being excited on a Saturday match day and now dread what is going to happen (a 4 hour round tri doesn't help).

On the current trajectory and looking at the teams likely to come up from League one, together with those being relegated from this league I can only see a long relegation scrap next season.

I would give him until the end of the season, but honestly wouldn't care too much if he was gone tomorrow.

Without wishing to get too personal, could you stay away more often please?

16 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I’ll start by saying I thought todays ref was dreadful even by usual standards. He seemed to give us very little, but equally gave them against us for similar offences.

I’ve seen some say Bernard’s first yellow could have been red but it seemed to me he had cover, I thought it was a standard yellow tbh for a professional foul.

Now the red… this caused a fair amount of confusion amongst some of us today because in part half of us missed the actual card being shown.

I was fairly certain at the time the ref got this wrong - potentially for two reasons.

1. Stopping a promising attack is only a yellow if it actually stops the attack, if advantage is played the ref shouldn’t go back and show a yellow unless the challenge was otherwise worthy of one - eg a bad tackle.

It didn’t stop the play evidently because advantage was played (and I thought it was just another pull not a yellow tackle but I could be wrong!) which leads to the second mistake…

2. Referee shouldn’t play advantage in the event of a second yellow incident, unless there’s a clear goal scoring opportunity - which i don’t think there was really (ie we weren’t through on goal). 

If the ref does play on, and the offending player plays the ball or interferes with an opponent then the ref should stop the game immediately - which he also didn’t do I don’t think? It seemed like a good few minutes later.

Id have to watch the highlights again to see if this is all how I remember it, but a very weird set of events.

Oh, and blowing the full time whistle when we’ve just won a corner too, which seemed to cause it to kick off a bit at the end.

Very minor in the grand scheme of things but thought it was something else to discuss rather than Manning/Lansdown/Tinnian etc

I thought it was a bad tackle.

I’m saying that without the benefit of having seen it again, but at the time I thought so.

My surprise was that, after play had continued for so long, he didn’t bottle it. I said as play went on that I’d wager he wouldn’t bother with a card, especially as I had a feeling it had been the same player booked in the first half.

Fair play, he didn’t, and I thought he got that spot on. Even though it was about the only thing he did get right all game!

1 minute ago, MarcusX said:

Which was that? I must have missed that too

City players were claiming a handball second half. Too far away and the area was too crowded to see really. 

Just now, Big C said:

He played 26 times for Hull this season. So his availability isn't that bad

Used up his ‘fit’ allowance for the season?

5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

Those slo-mo canters up to the ball are a nightmare for keepers. The vast majority commit themselves one way or another before the penalty taker has reached the ball. Surprised we don't see more of them. 

Yep, 100%. I used to say that at the time…it was a genuinely good technique. It still needs the confidence though, and some speed of thought. And the ability to hit the ball exactly where you want to. But do all that and it’s pretty much nailed on to score. 

4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Do you not consider that questioning why all these players keep getting injured again when they are close to coming back is supporting the team? 

Because I want us to have our best players available? 

Not the way you do it, no. I don’t. 

But as I said, not going over all that yet again. 

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Not wrong tho am I? 

Well, it’s your opinion. I disagree.

But I’m not going to go through all that yet again and go on and on and on and on and on and on about it.

I’m just going to get on with supporting the team and the manager

COYR

32 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Apparently we are not allowed to hold them to account for this because we knew they were talking bs and telling lies.

The fact we're supposed to over look the fact they lied to us is bizarre in itself. 

Interesting you say that. I’d never have guessed you felt that way.

2 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Yes, the ruthless discipline of diet and fitness as Ronaldo displays is not for everyone.

If you were good enough to play pro football at a decent level whilst dossing about all week and going to the pub several times a week then that would be a very enjoyable ride.

Whilst pro footballer is most people's dream job it is still a job. Few of us dedicate ourselves wholly to our careers.

My most memorable JET moment was when the ball came to him on the edge of a crowded penalty area and he appeared to slowly walk past two defenders before whacking the ball into the net.

I'm sure there was all manner of technically excellent close control going on to make it appear like that.

I guess that’s the thing. If you’re as talented as he is then you can still get so far without putting in the effort and the discipline. And if he’s happy with that, which he seemed to be, then good luck to him.

9 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

In flashes, yes. However, when he was on the pitch it was like playing with 10 men for 90% of the time. He was as much of the issue as he was the solution. We played much of our better football during the promotion season when Wilbs and Agard were on the pitch. He was a luxury to have waiting to come on.

But if it wasn’t in flashes he’d have been playing at Barcelona, not City.

I’d still rather have that 10% and enjoy the ride than 11 100% but boring and predictable players.

And it doesn’t seem to make a lot of difference in terms of City actually achieving anything !!

27 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

If I hear that Kidderminster have a penalty, I'll jump in the car. By the time I get to the ground JET will be about half way through his "run" up.

The first time he took one, up at Notts County, still ranks right up there in my most memorable moments watching City!

19 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Dumb - Silver Sun

Blue Moon…..Billie Holiday

1 hour ago, Super said:

I always got the impression he wasn't overly bothered. What happened to his Swazzy business he had?

I think there’s a huge difference between not loving the game and not having the level of commitment to put in the hours and the pain to become the best you possibly can at it.

He may not have been overly bothered with the pattern but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he doesn’t love the game and want to carry on playing it. 

34 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

My god i didn't realise you wanted Lampard, everything's becoming clearer 

Not only that; I’ve a feeling he still wants Lampard! 

2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

On paper Pearson inherited more established players. (Baker, Kalas to name 2, a younger Weimann and others).

In reality, the squad was a broken mess, morale was on the floor, many of the players had run their race.. and 18 months of downsizing was about to hit and hit hard.

I think that's exactly the point - and why that particular argument is all a bit pointless!

He inherited what was, on paper, a better group of players. But he inherited them with a brief to get rid, to reduce the size of the squad, to reduce costs massively.

Manning inherits what may, man for man, not be as good on paper, but with the brief to build on what's already there.

3 hours ago, Eddie Notgetinya said:

Surely we could go unique and local with massive attacks unfinished symphony. If they cranked this up and faded it out right on kick off the lyrics would really suit and would sound awesome IMO with everyone signing it.

I know that I've imagined love before
And how it could be with you

Really hurt me, baby, really cut me, baby
How can you have a day without a night?
You're the book that I have opened
And now I've got to know much more

 

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100% get my vote too.

4 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Two Tony's, mentioned one a comedian, the other the biggest clown ever

Three!

Tony Fawthrop too (if my assumptions about your descriptions of the other two are correct!!!)

The book that’s mentioned in that article - Playing the Moldovans at Tennis - is a good read too. Very funny, 

58 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

 

Blackpool away? A really inventive low free kick finished close in?

Could be. There was an og in that game and that’s certainly how I remember one. And as you say, really unusual and low free kick which left the defender with little option. 

1 minute ago, A Horse With No Name said:

on a similar note, did anyone else notice the weird wall set up by QPR, for Nahki's free kick, which is still travelling incidentally. It was so far off center, it literally gave him the whole goal to aim at, although I suppose the keeper wasn't unsighted. Just looked strange.

They also didn’t have the now obligatory player lying horizontally on the ground.

Although perhaps they knew the likely trajectory of their former player’s effort. 

Didn’t we get one or two early in Naismith’s time?

Or am I just dreaming? 

Missed Pereira.

Monza and Bournemouth - Bristol City’s what could have been