italian dave

52 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Didn’t against Fulham.

However we weren’t allowed to watch football in person for about 16 months after that game..

That shirt was so horrible that I think I’ll rest my case on the shirt alone in that instance. 

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

One game nearer Manning’s exit

I never understand why any City fan would want a City manager sacked.

30 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

Wouldn't have made a difference with the way we were playing second half.

Better corners (we had a few). And we had a couple of free kicks that might have benefitted from a better ball in.

Clutching at straws….

21 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

I liked the new kit and badge. 

I didn’t.

Hope we never do these silly ‘one off’ kits again.

We always lose.

23 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Manning - the lads maybe struggled with the pressure and expectation on them today…

Mmmmm……if anything, I felt that the problem today was that we started off with the attitude that this was going to be a different type of game and one we were going to have to be much more patient in.

Which, to be fair, is what most of us were saying. And I suspect  what what was part of the pre match team discussion.

But it felt almost like we translated that into an ‘all we need to do is be patient’ approach. We were notably more patient than many other games recently when we’ve gone for it from the off. 

I’m not saying we should have gone gung ho - but we could have done with an early goal to spoil the QPR game plan, and we just never looked like wanting that, 

5 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

Progress????? Where? 

We stole a win at Boro yes, without that we were bottom of the 6 game form table. We played supremely against Southampton, but throw that away when we play like today. I am not sure what progress you have seen in 4 or 5 games, we played well once. I see a very confused team, made worse by not having injury issues and no need to use academy players on the bench. Why are we so poor in so many games? Today required a much better performance with the resources available. The players and coach were collectively sub standard today. We have to hope a week on the training pitch serve up a Southampton type  performance next time out. 

We didn’t “steal” a win at Boro. We deserved it. And before that we more than held outright own at PL Forest. We lost to a Leeds side who are ripping everyone apart at the moment, and before that we got a point - which could easily have been three - at Coventry.

A lot more than one good performance in 6.

We were shit today mind! 

4 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Out of the mouths of babes.  My 6 year old grandson summed it by saying ‘they tried their best’.  I think that is called damning with faint praise

I’d call it generous!!

4 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

Sorry "Top Robin".... "We are undoubtedly progressing"

I think you need to read their post a bit more carefully. 

I thought we struggled wide on both sides today. Injury to Bell not helping. 

Positive: we’ve got that one out of our system. Can’t think of much else!

25 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

They've gone all in on this 1974 thing haven't they.

Gillies to score the winner today then.

And a power cut at half time!!

37 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Always want TGH to play against the teams that need breaking down

My guess is that he will. 

1 hour ago, pillred said:

What happened to their new all-wood stadium I remember seeing pictures of a few years ago? has that been quietly dropped?

Last time I read (which was a while back) they still intended to go ahead, but they were having planning problems with the other things that were proposed for the site (and presumably helped to support it financially). Bit like us and the Sporting Quarter I guess. 

15 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

@italian dave 1960? You've lost me.

I know we got relegated and Del Shannon had a massive hit with Runaway after BBC Hit or Miss programme voted it a total failure. I left school and got my first job at £3, 3 shillngs and 8 pence but what else happened?

1969maaan (whose post you replied to). Sorry!

You Remember it better than me

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Some people like to impose their views about veganism though, I think that is what they are talking about. Does DV impose his views on the people employed at his club?

Not as far as I’m aware. 

4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I thought DV

I think you’re probably right! Although the fact that “in a free country” someone can be criticised for choosing to be a vegan gets a bit confusing! 

36 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

I do wonder if some people are so fixed in their ideas and way of life, imposing them on others, that it works against the benefits.

In a free country, it should be left to every individual to have their own beliefs, diets, religion and every other facet of their life.

 

I’m still trying to figure out whether that barb is directed at 1960 or at Dale Vince…..

32 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

 also owners never sack themselves, do they?

One of the immutable facts of football……….which literally thousands of posts on here the past few months have failed to recognise

30 minutes ago, The Saturday Boy said:

Sandwiches - Detroit Grand Pubahs

Don't listen to it, it's a goddam awful earworm. Stuck in my head since 2011.........

Biscuit…….Portishead

1 hour ago, headhunter said:

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/who-is-shilen-patel-and-what-does-his-60m-takeover-mean-for-west-brom-2911045

New owner has 88% of the shares which means he can take all decisions [as an aside, can't see what Ratcliffe gets by way of control for just 25% of Man Utd.]

Article says current owner has invested £200M so is "losing" £140M by selling.

I'm sure the Baggies own their ground and have a training centre - I'd say ours is better than both but that's not the point.

What are we worth given these numbers? Certainly not 3x that sum if you believe the figures quoted by some as Lansdown's expectation.

An aside, as you say, but what Ratcliffe gets is far more complex than “just 25%” suggests.

The terms of the deal give him control of footballing matters at the club. That includes player transfers and managerial appointments.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/13037428/manchester-united-sir-jim-ratcliffes-deal-with-the-glazers-explained-and-what-it-means-for-the-premier-league-club

31 minutes ago, Midred said:

Just a shame that we're not playing Leeds tomorrow . They would enjoy the commemoration! 

Mmmmm…..not sure that’s a good enough reason to want to play Leeds at the moment

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Thankfully the foundations of a team that can run and run was put in place over the past couple of years!

Yes, that’s a slightly facetious comment, but a relevant one, LM referenced that in his first press-interview.  Couple that with LM’s better (imho) rotation and having a fuller squad to change pre-game and in-game, means we have coped pretty well in the main.  We were outrunning teams earlier this season, and Tuesday night we out ran Saints.

Hope we reap the benefits over the rest of the season.

Being the saddo I am, of the teams who have games in hand or are still in the cup, we don’t benefit from being the preceding game or the game after, unfortunately.

Definitely. Both things.

We’ve got great fitness levels.

And we’ve managed that rotation brilliantly imho.

I’ll certainly not be criticising selections or substitutions for a while: we may not always agree with or understand them but LM and his team know and see a whole lot more than we do and have managed it well.

The stand out for me was the game at Forest. Despite having a smaller squad and the more gruelling schedule, we were easily the stronger side in extra time, and if anyone was going to win it in that last 15 minutes it was (should have been) us. 

12 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

I’m amazed you’d judge a manager on their first game in charge.  

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

It is a useful reference point…something to gauge things on, e.g. never pressed as badly as we did (at times) that day!

Can’t we just all agree that - just like NP, just like most managers - we’ve come a long way since the first match and the first month of his tenure.

Personally, I think tomorrow will be a more interesting comparison with the last two games than it will with the away game at QPR.

Both Boro and Solon wanted to go for it and to win the game. They gave us space to play in. I’m not sure QPR will do that. I think they’ll play a lot deeper, be happy to just make things difficult for us. The things that are hard for us (and most teams tbf) to break down. It will be interesting to see how we manage against that.

I think set pieces can be an important factor in that scenario, so hoping Twine will be starting, if only for that reason. 

8 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

There were 3 or 4 occasions in the second half, when the ball went out of play on the Dolman side of the ground, where  the Ref looked at the linesman, and the linesman looked at the Ref,they didn’t have a clue and the Ref just seemed to guess who’s throw in it was,and gave every one of them to them.

Two of those the ref did that little signal to the linesman, pointing the way he felt it should go, and the linesman promptly flagged the other way!

It’s fair enough if neither know for sure, but I always thought that if that was the case then they should give the benefit to the defending team. That didn’t happen either. 

5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Something else I had not appreciated was that he's managed 21 games for us already. It's roughly one game every 4.5 days (tomorrow will be game 22 on day 102 of his tenure).

I don't know exactly how it compares to other "autumn managers" like Ruhl, Cifuentes etc, but that feels like a high frequency of games.

I haven’t got stats to directly answer that, but I did get some together to make a point a couple of weeks ago, when one particular poster was claiming that “it’s the same for everyone”.

And, taking Cifuentes, when we play QPR tomorrow it will be their 8th game since the Xmas/New Year schedule. We’ll have played 11, plus an extra time.

We’d played 2 (and an extra time) more than Southampton on Tuesday night. And we’ve played more games than almost everyone else we’ve played in that time.

So, yes, it’s been a gruelling schedule. If there’s a consolation to the fact that we’re not playing Man U next week, it’s got to be that free week. 

53 minutes ago, Red Shadow said:

Just A Little Bit - Etta James

Itsy Bitsy Tweeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini…….Brian Hyland

1 minute ago, spudski said:

I'm glad you put eagles...otherwise I would have thought you were talking about the missus

I'm hoping we don't get hammered. 

Ha ha!!

I was hoping we didn’t get hammered last night too….so seeing that as an omen! I might change my mind in a couple of hours!!