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Nice gesture - top man. 

Unlucky the ladies - relegated. 
At least they actually managed to GET to the Prem though. 

1 hour ago, spudski said:

It was more the quote about European football that made me cringe. 

….. but …….. LJ actually DID take his squad into Europe ……….

(Summer training in Malaga…..! )

5 minutes ago, spudski said:

This quote made me cringe...

Bristol City, a club that publicly announced their ambitions to bring European football to the recently re-developed Ashton Gate, have only finished in the top half of the Championship once in the last 10 years, while simultaneously rarely coming in any danger of relegation

I may be different to many on here, but having watched City since the 1970s - with most of it taking place in the 3rd tier - mid-table ‘stable’ championship isn’t too bad. 
Of course I want promotion, but mid table Championship comfort is better for me than the ‘excitement’ (ahem) of a relegation battle or competing in the JPT (or whatever it’s called now). 

I like what Manning is trying to do. 
I am cautiously optimistic about next season. 
I’ve not felt this positive for years. 

13 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Well we haven't won a tournament since 1966 and that's 58 years of winning zilch.  Many of you are too young to ever remember winning or what it feels like to win.

Er ahem - actually it was 1997 and 27 years:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/le-tournoi-25-years-on-when-england-last-won-a-tournament

I’m pleased with the unbeaten run - although we rode our luck in the Huddersfield game. 
I wouldn’t call it ‘green shoots’ though. We’ve ended the season around mid table ever since LJ left. 
It’s the same old issue for me; one minute we play really well (Watford, Southampton, Leicester, Blackburn etc) then we play terribly (Stoke, Sheffield W, Huddersfield…)

When we play well we look really good and I have to admit I found those performances really exciting and entertaining - the sort of performance I’d love to see - even when we don’t win, like vs Norwich on Saturday. 
I can’t understand however, how a team can play so differently within a few days. It’s a mystery to me. 
I probably sound like a broken record, but we need to fix our performances against the struggling sides and find consistency. If we can do that we can definitely make the playoffs (next season of course!!)
 

56 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Not including Sargent’s shot for them that cannoned off the post about 10 minutes in as the first highlight of the game is North Korea comms of the highest level, respect it. 

Hey - I didn’t edit these highlights - they were posted onto YouTube by the club already edited. I simply posted the link!!

Here’s the Sky highlights - it contains that moment - enjoy….

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13119535/norwich-city-1-1-bristol-city-championship-highlights
 

Here are the highlights….

Great to extend our unbeaten run and another good performance against a good side. 
We just need to fix our performances against the struggling sides then we’ll be the real deal. 
Well done Liam and the lads !!

43 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Keith Burt managed the football budget, his role remit given to him by Keith Dawe.  He would’ve put the bids into Brentford and Hull and had them accepted.

£6.5m (over 3 or 4 year contracts) plus £14k for Gray and £8k for Maguire would’ve added circa £3.0m to that years costs.  We probably spent that (and some) on loans for players we had to give back.  How much did Gladwin, Odemwingie, Tomlin and Matthews cost.

Pelling went in over Burt’s head.

+++++

Cotts should’ve walked.

I would have snapped their hands off for £14k and £8k for Gray and Maguire. 
I can’t believe we argued with that price!!

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

We will never know - but some have already decided. 
They may be correct. Who knows. 
 

For me (and I know I’m treading on eggshells here) I can’t believe that anyone, Cotts, LJ, Pearson, or Pep - would submit bids for players when the funds hadn’t been approved. 
If Cotts did that then he’s stupid. I don’t think that he is. 
If the funds were PULLED after being approved that’s different.  But they WERE originally available. 

19 hours ago, Davefevs said:

As the “story” goes, they were coming, fees, wages all agreed, they wanted to come.  They weren’t unrealistic bids, they’d been agreed by Brentford and Hull.  You even said they were accepted?  So how could they be unrealistic?

Pelling stuffed it up.  So, had Pelling not interfered (on who’s say so? Hmmmmm??) Cotts wouldve been backed.  But due to Pelling, Cotts ended up not being backed.

Gayle (towards end of window) wasn’t an unrealistic deal in terms of fee, £6m plus add-ons, accepted by Palace….but he didn’t want to come.  He even came down to Bristol out of respect.

This underlines my point that Cotts WAS financially backed - the money was there. Pelling screwed it up - not Lansdown, on that occasion (unless Pelling was acting under orders from SL of course)

My ‘unrealistic’ comment was misplaced. I probably should have said ‘unbelievable’ because in my own eyes they were, unbelievable.
What I meant was that if any single one of those bids had gone through it would have been the biggest transfer fee ever paid by Bristol City - even now I don’t think we’ve paid that much in transfer fee for a player (someone may be able to tell me differently) - and we went for 3 of them all similarly priced. That’s in excess of £30m in transfer fees, plus add-ons and wages - that would put LJ/Ashton to shame!!!
Goodness knows what FFP would have said about that!
Thats quite considerable backing in my opinion. 

I loved that season - apart from losing to Swindon - that was horrendous - but it was a great season apart from that - and I’ll always love Cotts and the squad for delivering it. 
Without detracting from it - as I said, I loved it - it was League 1. We have discovered that the Championship is a big step up - and Cotts did to his cost. 
Some say Cotts wasn’t backed. I say he was, but made unrealistic bids; Gayle, Gray, Maguire were all bids that were accepted but failed - either because the players didn’t want to come to us (Gray and Gayle) or the then COO (before Ashton) tried to renegotiate the deal with Hull at a lower price. You don’t make official bids if you are not backed financially. 
His Championship game plan was to play 3-5-2 and to deploy subs at the 80th minute when chasing the game. Disastrous. 
As soon as Cotts ‘left’ we steadied the ship under Pemberton. We switched to 4-4-2 and the recovery started. 
I’ll always be grateful to Cotts for getting us promoted with a wonderful double-winning season, but IMHO it was right he left when he did. 
Not that we’ve done much better since mind, but we’ve not been in the relegation zone for a while!!!
 

2 minutes ago, Three Lions said:

Q1 the player is moving, Its not natural to move without moving arms. Its natural above. did you play football without moving your arms? no you did not.

Q2 lots of movement have risk of ball striking hands and arms so the ? is the movement justifiable by the players  movement for that specific situation. yes it was.

wrong. its not always an offence if ball connects with an arm. 

 

Ok - if it’s away from your body at the time of impact it is - as in this case. 

16 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Shame a few Huddersfield supporters have chosen to take it personally.

If this is real then it’s an outrage. 
I get they would be upset and angry, but to try and ruin someone’s career due to a decision you don’t like is pathetic and wrong. 

25 minutes ago, Three Lions said:

if a players brings their arms out to protect their face from a strong shot two metres way and the ball hits an arm is it a penalty?

It’s a penalty if the ball connects with your arm regardless of intent. The ‘ball to hand’ rule was scrapped years ago. 
If the ball hits the hand it’s a penalty. If it’s deemed deliberate it’s also a red card. If accidental then it’s a penalty but no card. 
Rebecca gave a penalty but no card - which indicates she knew and acknowledged it was accidental but it was still a ‘foul’ and awarded the penalty. 

Out with the old, in with the new. 
Good luck in your life outside football. 

I always stay till the end. 
I’ve paid all that money to the Lansdowns so I want my time - even if it’s crap football. 
Thankfully that allowed me to see the penalty.

A group of people were chanting ‘Manning says stay until the end’ at some of those who had clearly left early. It gave me a smile - in an afternoon with not much to smile about!!!

I thought she did ok. 
Not sure about the penalty - and the Sky replay doesn’t make it any clearer either. 
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13114485/bristol-city-1-1-huddersfield-town-championship-highlights

One thing that DID impress me was her adding all that time on top of Extra Time to make up for Huddersfield’s time wasting sh1thousery. The penalty might well have been harsh, but it’s comeuppance for all that. If they had not wasted so much time then we probably would have lost the game, as it would have ended at 95 minutes. 

10 hours ago, Robbored said:

LJ used whinge about the lack of atmosphere at AG not realising that his style of play was the reason - there was very little to get the crowd going.

 

The atmosphere at the Man U game was as electric as I’ve ever witnessed at BS3. 
Up there with the best I’ve ever seen in my 57 years. 

14 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

That was Mansfield in 1987.

They’ve MORE than paid us back for that day.

 

Ah yes - thanks for putting me straight on that!

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

Yep when we went to sleep and they took a quick free kick to score the winner! 

I seem to remember in that game, some of our own young lady fans (I’m led to believe they frequented the Whitening Yard) taking off their tops and waving their ‘assets’ about just as one of our players (Newman?) was about to take a penalty. Whoever it was ended up missing. Probably distracted - as I was. 
Talk about own goals….. terrible timing…!!

Here’s the ‘form’ that matters to me:

I like what Manning is trying to achieve. 
I like it that we don’t try and sit on a 1-0 lead and keep going for more goals. 
I like that despite some dodgy results and performance we’ve also had some wonderful performances and results. 
I didn’t want Pearson sacked, but it happened and it wasn’t Mannings fault. 
I like that I look forward to city games again, instead of feeling almost indifferent. 
Manning IN.