SecretSam

What would the pain and frustration of being a Sag look like?

That's just...laughable

Along with 6 million hours of tennis crap

God, iPlayer is full of Wimbledon shit

Coo, some nice, sensible discussion. Thanks all.

With the benefit of hindsight, yes, but lots were pretty unhappy at the time - myself included. Kudos to the club and its design team, they really came up with a truly fabulous set of proposals, luckily we had space to develop. The value of long-term planning and good masterplans, and a clear vision.

...that they have an epic youth set up that regularly churns out talent? So, no relevance, really

But internally, some of his wages could be treated as coaching costs, ergo releasing some of the playing budget for another new face? Plus Palmer going frees up a bit of headroom (although mostly we'll probably see that as part of a wage budget reduction)

I would imagine a bit of accounting jiggery-pokery is being done (that's a technical term, BTW). So him being a coach means part of his salary is shifted to the coaching side, freeing some wages. And I doubt his wages are high.

Surely most managers are ex-pros? Ancelotti, Guardiola, etc...

I see loans are planned for Towler, Idehen, Conway, Bell and possibly Owers. I'm not ITK with these youngsters, how much promise do they really show? How far away from first team level are they? I know Scott is no benchmark, he's an exception, but could any of them realistically stay and battle for the first team? Genuine Q.

Handbags!!!

Fine save by Cox

Except for the one for Alex's goal ?

Yeah, England looked a mess for first 15. Cox and RB made horrible errors in possession

Unlucky for Casadei of Italy, he has been good Scott got away with one there!

Good call!!!!

I never watch football at this level. Interesting. Lots of errors, some pkayers look very much at s different level. EG Italy keeper looks much better than England's

Italians not holding back with the challenges

Iplayer is where I am

I guess some look like what they are: raw young talents Italian keeper sharp

But Jesus may be off to Arsenal

Was solid when he finally got his chance, but clearly (and rightly) felt he wanted games. Good luck to the lad, he'll do well.

You and me both. Parachute payments were introduced IIRC after the Bradford calamity, when they plummeted down the divisions due to unavoidable and unsustainable salary costs (hmmm, who else had the same issue a while back?) Now, most sensible clubs have a wage structure such that players' wages are cut if they drop. Ergo, no need for parachute payments. All they do is make for the ludicrous situation of clubs like Norwich, Fulham and WBA bouncing between divisions.

He's 20 years old, FFS, if you can't make mistakes at age 20, when can you? At what point does development stop? As long as he learns from his errors and/or is taught about how to avoid them, he'll improve.