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I wouldn't criticise him too much for not using Academy players , though I would question not having them on the bench rather than and empty seat. We were probably due a quiet period with so many bloodied over the last few years , I think (hope) we may see 2/3 pushing next year. What I would question, is signing basically an academy player to try and come and make a difference. Odd IMO.

I don't agree that we are not very good, we are playing poorly to say the least , but at least some of that is down to how they are being told to play. Remember , it was only a few games ago that a couple of opposition Managers said we were the best pressing side in the division. That may have been a slight exaggeration , but that press has all but stopped in the last couple of games . That's not the players , that''s the Coach.

Easily done mate

It was discussed on another thread , he was supposed to do Southampton (I think) but he wasn't well enough . Jason Euel took his place . So , if he's well enough it could happen. I'd like to see it. Could be interesting.

BOOOOOOO ! Seemed appropriate on a Warnock thread

That's all we really have to hold onto , sadly . I don't agree with all the "has no ambition " posts , I think it's more that being a dictatorship that doesn't seem to like to take advice you can never have a balanced view. Jon has ideas , but massively limited it football as is Dad . Plus they just haven't learnt from experience. Then all of a sudden... Steve L steps away , we appoint an experienced Manager , we appoint a real CEO and everything starts to look like a real Club going in the right direction. Pearson may have been outspoken , but if he's treated fairly and honestly he wouldn't have felt the need to drop things into the Pressers. So we lose a Manager and 2 CEO's , TBF one wasn't down to the Club. In 5 months we have gone from the best set up for years, to being a mess with no obvious leadership worthy of the name. I hope your thinking is right , Steve may just see the difference in direction 6 months ago , to now . Nige isn't coming back , ever. Looking from either side it just wont work and that means any of his staff or friends would be doubtful. I hope they go down a similar route though , get an experienced man in . Get the support HE wants . Get a real experienced CEO. in ASAP . Get a real Chairman in , call it an advisor , call it anything but take the keys away from Jon. Even if it has to be in way that doesn't bruise his ego. They have heard/seen/felt the feedback from the sacking or the kits or the badges , they know they have done a great job in pissing off the fans . So maybe , just maybe they will make the right appointment again. They do stumble onto the right man every now and again. Even if they tend to balls it up after a short while.

I listened on catchup , and skipped through , but what was it Ian Gay said ? I caught the bit about having 8 games to save his job, but that just seems obvious, given our results , and not like telling the World undisclosed transfer fees.

I'm a fan of Piercy , his recent article was very good , Owers is always sensible and interesting . But I have to give credit to the presenter, that was the best show for some time, definitely since JT left. I'd love them to do this sort of thing once a month or so.

Wasn't it stated that "The Plan" was to get rid of the older more experienced Pros ?

I love Paddy Power's social media, always good for a joke and a dig.

You could be right . I do think they will wait for an easy opportunity , a defeat so they can point and say, see it's him not us. I don't see any way they do it over the break, that would be decisive , and something that a well run Club might do. I really hope they are making enquiries already , you can see him being sacked now, and us taking until after the players come back for training to appoint someone.

On one hand , Lansdown has always seemed supportive and doesn't usually 'go early' on dismissals . On the other , they must have got an idea of the supporters feelings , and just as season tickets go on sale ? I think they will do nothing and we will play Leicester . Then if we get a stuffing , Little Jon will have an 'out' . He used the Cardiff game with half an academy side playing to sack Pearson. If we get done 4 or 5 , I can see our spineless Chairman using the opportunity to court favour with the fans by sacking LM . Then they can ramp up excitement for renewals by linking us to top, top managers until everyone has paid their money . Then get someone equally dull (probably ? ) if that's possible.

I know I will renew , I may think hard about it , I may wait until late on , but I will renew. It took Lansdown making our seats Corporate and more than doubling the price for me to step away previously. The problem is I do miss the social side, I have had mates who came for a drink before games, I can't do that and just go home . Plus I love the away day when we go in a group . That said it isn't a million miles away from not bothering . More shit football , poor leadership , price rises , kit bollox etc and it will come .

Twine has only played once , not sure what we are missing yet until he has a run. I also think it was a pointless signing , giving that I doubt we will sign him permanently . I believe the Club (this time) when they say this (mythical?) striker wasn't available in January . I doubt he will be in the summer, seeing as how we want a big, strong, quick goalscorer ready for Championship football and within our budget. No doubt there are 23 other sides want the same . Of course , there is another thing, we don't make chances , at least not lots. There is no reason just having another striker would change our team for the better. We need the rest of the side to start creating first , then when TC and NW are missing lots , then I will think we need a new striker. I think we will have to take a chance on a foreign striker in the end , it's that or a L1/L2 punt

Didn't we have 14 OOC that first pre season summer ? FFP meaning money was tight , rebuilding coaching & medical while not being allowed to replace senior Pros . Even selling a prize asset he was given about the same as we spent in the Jan after Pearson left . Manning was supposed to improve what we had , so the windows are inconsequential , yes pre season might make a difference but are you sure it would make that much of a difference ?

Don't the League games count ? EDIT Suspensions following a Red Card are applied across both league and cup competitions – only accumulated Yellow Cards are competition specific*. Found this and I guess it depends if he's had other bookings.

This is a mad game

3-3 good game

Not if we didn't make the final

Didn't see that coming Shows it can happen at the top level too, poor defending.

Liverpool with a 5 V 2 and don't score , criminal

I really detest that bloke , and there is so much to dislike.

apologies to Big Tone..... Condensed Version ..... The more Manning coaches the team, the worse they get.

Putting aside all the passive , non football , hold on to what we have nonsense . Back to the game . I did't think we got much of the run of the ball , the Ref was , well odd too. But their goal , at first I thought Vyner played the lad onside . Not a great angle , but it does look suss from this clip . Would definitely be "interfering" , and it does look off . Doesn't excuse the set up or performance though.

Man U 1-0 I suppose this isn't a bad game, but as it's 2 teams I really hate I struggle to enjoy it. I even put a £1 on to make it more interesting , not working so far.