1960maaan

13 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

The funding situation is definitely interesting. Steve Lansdown has spent £45m ish just on a ground redevelopment. Two new stands and and extension & refurbishment for a third. Take this figure and extrapolate it and you have the cost of a full size new stadium.  If Weal really doesn't have the money I think the options are either sell the Memorial Stadium and use the money to build a basic small ground at UWE or, as you say, stay where they are and just do a tidy up 

Just found an interesting site, Sc'unthorpe are apparently starting a new build this summer. 12,000 seats at a cost of in the region of £18m . I guess the sums aren't as easy as double the seats double the cost, but if they were thinking of 20k seats and leaving the fit out to be like Colchester and Shrewsbury (very basic) I guess there would be little change from £35-£40 million. Sainsbury's deal was paying over the odds for the Mem so the shortfall could be £20-£30m , that's a lot of funding for a stadium you would already only part own.

A refit makes sense and if the capacity was reduced during the rebuild, to say 7,000 , they could boast about selling out the ground more often, win win !

On 4/26/2016 at 13:19, Monkeh said:

ahhh the post story to keep the native quiet,

Truth of the matter is Higgs have conned them, weal hasn't got the funds to build the ground, the UWE want out and there can;t find investment to bail them out,

with in 2 months they will be begging the council to pay for it,

I was wondering about this. I know the funding process can take a while but it seems to have gone very quiet, did his trip to see the money men not go well?  How long are the UWE willing to put things on hold waiting for the squatters to find the money for the ground?  Weal said from the outset they wouldn't be throwing money at the 'project' , I took that to mean the team at the time but obviously it also meant the ground. I can honestly see them taking a similar route to us and redeveloping the Rugby ground. Their delusional state means they won't even get the hypocrisy of some of their outpourings and will state that it was the favoured choice all the time, myself I'd be happy if they left Bristol to become ONE of the biggest teams in Gloucester.

1990 our last win? I was there 26 years ago bloody hell.  Still any scrambled draw will do today.

12 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said:

1. Pack and Smith were tired, both looked poor

2. Kodjia needs decent service 

3. The entire defence was woeful on the ball aside from Matthews 

4. Reid MOM why was he taken off? 

5. Freeman is League 1, needs to go. Sorry. 

Agree with most, except Pack was probably MoM, and I think Reid was just a throw of the dice to change things. Overall beaten by a better side while being awful . Thought Derby were very good.

27 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Who died and put you in charge of what people can read or write about on here?

Grammar Police, Censorship Department ?

2 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Yes but a minute before Kodjia gets himself caught offside for the umpteenth time today, if he doesn't and we hold the ball at the right end...

I really hope Lee works with him on this for next year.

1 minute ago, 1960maaan said:

ROD take a bow son !

and I say that as someone who stands to win £125 if we win 2-1

ROD take a bow son !

Lita !!

9 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Just edit your post before anyone else sees it!!

Ahhh the number of times I've done that 

12 minutes ago, Iron Man said:

He's probably right, the atmosphere was terrible all game. But then again Man City fans didn't run on the pitch when they scored.

To be fair, a voice of reason in the darkness ?

Perhaps it really shows how we've been starved of success that even drawing at Northampton is seem as success, for Man C fans last night it was just another win??

And now I need a shower, I feel dirty after looking on there !  

1 hour ago, phantom said:

Apart from Rugby League is there a "large" summer sport?

Certainly won't be Glos CC on the move

Golf ?? Surfing ? Olympics? I'm struggling now .......

I think it's pretty much accepted that the new owners are nowhere near as rich as the Post were making out ( he has a £15k watch don't you know.)

They were seeking funding for the new ground, and while it makes sense as money would be available from the league and other sources , they seemed to be looking for the bulk of the costs from out side interests. I guess there may be a couple of ways to do this, the Glaziers way in which the club would be in debt, or partners which means they would only own a small stake in the Stadium Ground.  They are, no doubt , very wealthy but their assets are tied up in the banks they own as a family and any free money to spend on the club (which they've already said they won't throw money at the club) may be negligible .  I can't see that they would have been had over in the deal for the gAss as they do this for a business. It will be interesting to see how this story pans out.

50 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said:

The Family Club? .... or just Cobblers?

The Blonde in the glasses, ain't that the one off the tele ??

The free kick hit the post and rebounded off of RO, harsh to put any blame on him.

2 minutes ago, Hello said:

Which bit about Amtrak buying the site for that price and us paying the same for half is confusing you

So some one else was willing to rip them off as well , I see you're pardoned in that case.

10 hours ago, Miahdennehy said:

I think Clarke's comments were - at best- ill advised.

Odd how there is one thread lauding  a local radio presenter for a 'mind the gap' comment, yet others get a little  precious when a joke is made about non existent displays on an electronic scoreboard!

I do despair of football fans at times, some really do need to grow a pair.

 

I know you are ( for a Squatter ) a fairly sensible poster , but do you rally not get the difference in the two jobs the highlighted parts represent?

One is supposed to entertain and encourage debate of listeners and the other is meant to be a professional representative of your club. Not a pissed up no mark on a jolly with his mates down the local , I dread to think of the out cry if Cott's would have done that.

5 hours ago, Hello said:

We paid 2.3 million for 50% the same price Amtrak were paying to put a distribution centre on the site.

The deal was either side could buy the other 50% for 10k

So thats 2.3m plus 10k we paid.for the ground. All in the accounts as we have/had the mortgage to prove it

So you paid £2.3m for 50% and just £10k for the other 50% because your co-owners were in financial difficulties. Sounds like bloody daylight robbery to me, there isn't one person on this forum who wouldn't have ran to the mortgage lenders to take that deal !

57 minutes ago, Miahdennehy said:

Bollocks. As I aid previously, there is a thread on here lauding a Radio Bristol presenter for slipping a 'Mind the gap' reference in.

Any**** that gets remotely upset at trivial comments over football is a bit of a *****.

 Rovers fans are *****s, some City fans are *****s , and some say 'amusing' things, that aren't really all that amusing.

So official club announcer and some plum presenting a show on local radio the same ???

 I remember your announcer getting in trouble before , tinpot !

I do agree with a lot of the rest though 

10 hours ago, Smaller than a flea said:

That's your opinion.  What do you think the opinion of the 24,000 City fans and 3,000 Rovers fans watching the game would be?  Serious question.

Serious answer. If it was at ours , I'd be there and I'd hate it.  I admit it was a casual off hand comment , but I mean it.

I hate(d) the derby games and surely with the little insights into their minds via the gASSchat forum, you can get a preview of what it would be like. My first Derby was the 4-1 win at Eastville, and I had to suffer all the crap that the following years brought. 

We had nothing to gain and everything to lose, I  really grew to hate those games and I would be only too happy if they stayed one Div below us permanently !!

Might be an old man thing 

12 minutes ago, Smaller than a flea said:

If I replied like that after the Hull result I'd probably be banned on here.  So I stick to reasonable debate and no abuse, just discussion.  Many on OTIB can see that Rovers are doing well and perhaps finally, after so many years, are going places.  Wouldn't it be great to have both Bristol clubs doing well, in new stadiums, playing each other regularly in front of 25,000 crowds?  

No it ******* wouldn't !

8 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said:

Fair points, mate. I just think when the opposition do have classier players, it's even more important to pay attention to the little things, like mental preparation and so on. Where you say we paid Hull too much "respect" I would call that "fear." I think our record v the top six sides, with a number of four goal hidings now, suggests we are missing a trick or something here, but it might be too much to expect LJ to change that now, this season. 

It's better that we have secured wins against the bottom four recently I suppose.  

That's why I said about contradicting myself.

Burnley 1-2  and 4-0

Boro  1-0 and 1-0

Brighton 1-2 and 4-0

Hull 1-1 and 4-0

Sheff Wed 2-0 home game to come

Derby 4-0 home game to come

Not good reading, too many times we seem to have thrown the towel in after going a couple down.

If we carry on beating teams near us , that should be enough for this year but some serious surgery needs to be done in the summer.

Take away the loans and we need about 7 new signings if not more.

6 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said:

Ok, so it is the difference in class in the two squads. So how did MK manage a draw there recently? How did we manage to beat Boro twice? And how did we overcome the difference in class to draw with Hull at AG?

If fear does not come into it, why was LJ referring to fear 48 hours before the game?

Rotherham v top 6 this season:

First five games: Brighton, Burnley, Wednesday, Derby, Middlesbrough - five defeats.

Then, from Dec 19th:

Hull, won 2:0; Brighton, won 2:0; Burnley, lost 0:2; Wednesday, won 1:0; Middlesbrough, won 1:0; Derby 3:3.

Rotherham have turned it around against the big sides, they have bridged the gulf in class, they have found a way to compete. And that transformation precedes Warnock arriving there.

So, it can be done. Question is: how?

Preston, 

First five games v Top 6: 2 draws, 3 defeats. Next 5 v Top 6: 3 wins, 2 draws.

So, Preston, same-ish class of players as us, struggled at first but have also found a way to live with the gulf in class. It can be done. But neither Cotts or LJ, yet, have found a way. Sir Alex understood the importance of press conferences and public statements. I don't think the gulf is insurmountable and I believe we shouldn't be sending subliminal or overt messages that we can't compete. Cotts fell into that trap, I just hope LJ is not going to as well!

 

 

Over all class should tell ,  on a game bases anyone can beat anyone. I don't hold with the fear thing, being brave means hold the ball and be confident and today we maybe stood off a little and showed too much respect but mostly I think it was just a bad day. Control, passing and movement were all off, and our midfield is (in comparison) lightweight.  I may not have explained that well, sounds like I contradicted myself a little.

We deserved to beat Boro at home, good defending for the away win . Hull at home I thought they looked a better side but that we deserved a point. The class tells over a period of games, what Rotherham has/have done is (probably) through commitment , organisation and passion. Warnock has always got the best from his sides even if they aren't the best sides. It is harder to keep that going over a longer period of time, but how many times have we seen teams raise their game against supposed stronger opposition in one off games ?

As for the press conference , mostly just soundbites . I'm not sure he'd be saying the same to players, at least not in the same way. 

I do think that the break may have come at a bad time as our momentum and their supposed drought were negated.  If we can beat the divisions form side Tuesday, it will be the preferred way of picking up 3 points from these games .

1 hour ago, glynriley said:

See they had 8250 up the swamp today.

Nothing like proving to your new owners you need a bigger stadium when you're doing well, is there...?!!

Hang on , wait a minute ..... I thought they'd sold out. You sure a 1 hasn't fallen off the front of that number ??

23 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said:

I think, unfortunately, they demonstrated today, the "fear" that LJ on Thursday talked about drilling into them they must not show or play with. Post match, Lee said we are not quite at the level where we can compete with the teams like Hull. Is there a contradiction there? 

We have two games left against top 6 sides - sides like Hull - and 5 against teams we have been getting results against, although Rotherham Tuesday looks as tough as any of the seven remaining games.

 

Not at all , on a good day with luck we go and maybe sneak a draw. What happened was nothing to do with fear or respect just class.

11 minutes ago, Aizoon said:

I do wonder whether telling teams "not to express fear" is counter-productive, especially after the first goal goes in...

I really think it was just a bad day at the office, fear does not come into it. I also think that was a sound bite, more for the press than players.

2 hours ago, Cheesleysmate said:

Not over yet.

Rotherham on fire under Warnock. They will beat us Tuesday. 

FFS!

No Jeff and no social media tonight....The squatters have never felt more like singing the blues again! Colin Daniel scored this afternoon so they can **** off n'all!

Ahhh , you get that shit too then. My mate's in the USA , Disney in stead of the Rugby ground although both Mickey Mouse outfits , and he still takes time out to post about us !!!