Mr Popodopolous

Yeah true, what I mean is maybe it wasnt an upfront fee for the season, wasn't really aware loan deals were structured in that way.

Cheers Dave should be an interesting watch. Depends on how the deals are structured? Remember all loaning clubs are equal but some seem to be more equal than others. Perhaps Stoke paid by the week for them or in two tranches and thst plus Bursik took them safe, netted off by cheaper future loans.

Sort of under Millen in 2010 although it sort if fizzled out. Could argue under GJ in 2006, Cotts in 2014 albeit in League One we were pushing towards.

Stoke fans weren't keen either when discussing that they were a striker light and looking at the free agents. He'll have his uses subject to tactics at this stage of his career IMO.

Good luck to him except against us obviously. Decent move for him that.

Funnily enough though that is counter intuitive. I know someone who does doors in town and he told me it's not uncommon. Yet fans with replica shirts e.g. are far less likely in the main, to cause a security risk than fans in certain uniforms although that 2nd bit is a tad stereotypical of me. Talking more widely not just Sports Bar.

I fancy an in form, up for it Semenyo would have caused them some problems certainly, especially given the tactical issues that you outline. MOTD2 highlighted something interesting too- Dier is a CM or defensive mid who goes into a back 3. He was stepping up and pressing a bit. Naismith can perhaps form a similar role, helping us to switch between 4-1-4-1 and a back 3 where required.

Results wise perhaps no great surprise but I question whether their general performance level is so bad. They seem to press well, create reasonable numbers of chances but results are all important.

Sheffield United. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11714809/Questions-raised-wealth-potential-new-Sheffield-United-owner-huge-stock-market-drop.html Wasn't there some stipulation about 30 days to settle debt or further transfer related sanctions? Granted if loan taken our that can cover and all debts settled if promoted. https://www.sheffieldunited.news/news/sheffield-united-facing-18-month-transfer-ban-with-takeover-held-up/ Seem to recall that the embargo kicked in 20th January or somesuch.

Yes agreed but graphs tend to balance out over time for this. Not always of course but put simply poor performances and decent results will in the end regress if poor performances sustained and vice versa. Most of the time anyway.

As Fry was last man I concur, yet a penalty and red was awarded whereas for us v Watford...although I think the high boot on Wells was the actual main claim for us.

Although a very quick check suggests that those two have only won one each this season so..site could be wrong of course but 7 for a midtable moderate side is quite something. Divisional high in fact!

Cc @Bristol Rob Serie A had the courage to punish their own biggest club domestically with relegation which they took some time to recover from and have docked them 15 pts so I'd say little excuse for the PL not to punish Man City severely if proven.

Plus I'm sure Man City have interesting info on other clubs. Maybe this is what the game needs, if there are lots of other clubs wirh offences ranging from middling to major let it all come out and be dealt with accordingly.

Porto's youngest ever CL captain. Yes that's an interesting one...£15m fee 5 year deal was it in theory amortisation- that's more like the Reading loans on favourable terms from Chelsea from what we know IMO, although one wonders what kind of wages Neves in 2017 should command. £15m fee, 5 year deal- that aspect isn't too concerning really, amortisation at £3m a year. Expansive but not reckless (at that time).

SwissRamble too.

I'll give it a go. Think they turned a profit in 2015-16 so the 1st year of the cycle. The questions about Wolves related less about FFP ie the £39m loss as such, more about whether Neves and co were being paid a true market rate, the links to Mendes etc. Kieran Maguire, Swiss Ramble both had Wolves within the limits based on the accounts as presented. Question is how did their links with Mendes help with this?

I do wonder, everyone who they have eliminated in a Cup competition especially the CL, everyone who has lost out on prize money in the League...well.

Let's say we had won that then beat Arsenal, we are then into Europe, okay Europa League. Thst prize money probably enables us to take the risk on keeping one if Bryan or Reid going got promotion as well as adding Maenpaa, Hunt, Webster, Weimann. Wonder how much that cost us...ripple effect etc.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3045970 The statement, some of the finer detail. Not read it myself yet.

I'd say Italy have set a good example, template for the League here. Premier League now need to push for strong sanctions indeed.

Okay this also raised a quite interesting question. Statute of limitations?? To what extent therefore can the Foorball League under the same aligned P&S regs therefore revisit the Aston Villa to 2019, perhaps the Wolves to 2018 although I'm unsure that was a 2018, Fulham to last year? Stoke recorded some huge losses albeit less problem there owing to Covid, list goes on. Nottingham Forest to last year- PL with Everton? Ironically I don't think Bournemouth breached to 2022 but will be of interest to see their 2022 numbers as well.

Saracens did not get away with it in the end.

I don't know if PL regs allow for appeal to the CAS. I know EFL ones don't. This is unprecedented however.

May as well also update: League only 0 in 58 games and counting. All competitive games 0 in 65 games and counting. Days since last one to present 457 days and counting. Let alone the longer records of League and Cup, gap between, last since home, last since we got one in front of home fans etc.