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31 minutes ago, BRIAN WILSON said:

Rumours of Barton to Preston - You really couldn't make it up 

OR is it Preston Prison ?

I don't think Barton is of any interest to Preston.  But hypothetically, were he offered the job, he'd be off like a shot. He can't have many friends over the slags currently and that does not bode well for the short and medium terms. He won't want a relegation on his CV too, which might influence things.  He's increasingly sounding like someone in wayyyyy over his head and he might wanna exit asap. 

22 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

I can relate to this.

Honestly, it was incessant during the 80's.

Before that time I hadn't been particularly bothered about Rovers. They hid under their rocks during the late 70's but crawled out when the wheels started to come off at Ashton Gate.

I didn't understand why they wanted to ram their dislike of City down my throat, but in later years a good mate of mine who is unfortunately a Gashead revealed the problem from his and his mates perspective and for me it highlighted quite clearly why the problem is actually theirs and not ours......

When we got promoted to Division One it was all about Bristol City, not just City but the prospect of having the best players and teams in the land coming to Bristol on a regular basis. Suddenly all of the newspaper main headlines were about City, the local TV sports reporting was City first, the main sports news and match of the day brought even more attention to Bristol City and for Rovers fans it felt like they were being bombarded by City related interest. They felt aggrieved by this as there were two teams in Bristol and they felt like they were being forgotten about. Even when they had a great result they were always pushed down the pecking order in terms of coverage and reporting. They saw it as a 'bias' towards Bristol City and became frustrated, annoyed, envious and jealous and took it out on the City fan base. In reality, it's no different from hearing about the Premier League nowadays and rarely hearing about either of our local clubs because there isn't a wider interest. It is why they always feel hard done by and why they continuously play the victim. So when the bubble eventually burst and we crashed down the leagues they reveled in our demise. At last we could begin to feel like they had felt, insignificant to the world of football.

This underlying bitterness and resentment has continued to fester throughout the years and every so often it rises to the surface. It happens if they win and we lose, it happens when something good happens for us (like the arrival of SL and the rebuild of AG and the club's infrastructure), or when we are in the spotlight (like the Carabao Cup run). Times like these are when they become extremely agitated. If they win promotion they're suddenly "Coming for Bristol City". They can't just be content with their own success and leave it at that.

Only a few weeks ago they picked up a win on the same day that City lost and immediately took to social media "Singing The Blues". They just can't help themselves. They compare everything to City as their yardstick. It really is very sad, but my god, doesn't it make them an easy target to wind up and rip the piss out of?!!!

 

 

I've always found them to be bitter *****.

The only ambition their fans have is to be one place above us and have a stadium with one seat more capacity.

Sadly for them, I think over the years that's rubbed off on the BOD/Chairmen there and instead of being realistic in their ambitions, they've set their goals as being competitive with us. Wherever we are in the league is the extent of their ambition. 

On 05/03/2021 at 00:34, bert tann said:

Mr Al-Quidi did apply for a permit to run a whelk stall on Gloucester Road but was turned down due to lack of continence.

That explains why he’s always talking piss. 

6 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Anybody want to lay odds on him lasting the season?

 

What odds are you giving?

32 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Achievements deserve context and perspective. Our achievements (and expectations) are different to other clubs.

Norwich for example would be expecting promotion this season. If they get it, is it an achivement or is it the expectation being met? If Wycombe were in amongst the playoffs all season but finished 8th, then went on to sustain their Championship status for 3-4 years I'd say that's an achievement.

Likewise, if Man City earn a Champions League spot but dont win the league, that wouldn't be seen as an achievement as such - but it would if West Ham or Everton made it.

At the point LJ came in we were on our way back to League 1. We are a mid-table Championship side - and that's because of the work LJ did here. We have no given right to expect a play off place and promotion.

We've finished higher than Lee's 8th place once in my lifetime. Not saying we shouldn't strive for better, but Bristol City fans need to apply some perspective and realise our relative place in the football league and punching above that consistently IS/WAS an achievement. He just didn't have enough to get us over the line.

Fair points but I disagree.

When LJ took over we were in the Championship, when he left we were in the Championship, albeit higher up. Expectations throughout - aided and abetted by LJ/SL etc. - (lets not forget Europe in five years also) was play offs at worst and outright promotion at best.  He failed on all counts.  

3 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Define achievements? He saved us from relegation and turned us into a solid Championship side, challenging in and around the play offs.

He got us our best cup run in 30 years, beating the biggest club in the country and going toe to toe with the best team in the world at the time over 2 legs. We played some of the best football I've ever seen from City, especially when you consider the level we were at (Cotts team was fantastic, but it was L1 football)

The end was shit, and it was probably the right time for him to go, but it's nonsense to say he didn't achieve anything here.

Defining achievements really is key here.  In the bigger context of things, these are not 'achievements' in my opinion.

What you've just described there is a couple of good nights out, not achievements.  There's plenty of non-Premier League clubs that have beaten Manu Utd - do you think they class them as achievements or special, one-off nights?

Challenging in and around the play-offs is not an achievement; getting to the play-offs and winning them is an achievement. 

Classing these as achievements is sadly reflective of where we as a fanbase are that people see them as that.

Always has been and always will be a total bluffer.  4 jobs, zero achievements.  I don't expect him to be at Sunderland next season as they will not tolerate the utter nonsense that comes out of his mouth.  He's only likely to survive a bit longer as there's no supporters. Total, total bluffer. 

This has taken them 12 games to figure out and sounds all too familiar:

"I liked his first interview when he talked about getting bodies in the box and pulling crosses back but he seems to think he is some sort of football scientist and baffle people with jargon. Sadly, it got boring pretty quick. It sounds good when you are winning but when you can’t organise a team for shite you look a bit stupid. I’m guessing the players have stopped listening too..."

12 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

 

If I understand correctly the Fewers are in black, and attacking.

That's a whole new level of ineptitude. If a player missed that on a Sunday morning parks game he'd get filled in in the bar afterwards.

He almost didn't want to score.  And then to pull his frigigng socks up when the balls still in the penalty/danger area....

Just now, bert tann said:

Some spiv from oddschecker has us down for relegation ???

 

Bristol Rovers (21st) occupy the first relegation spot. I’m surprised how much respect the bookies are giving them this season. They have the Gas rated as a top 10 side and I can’t for the life of me work out why. They’ve lost their key striker Clarke-Harris and guess who was their second-top scorer in the league last season? Abu Ogogo with three goals. Everyone else managed two or fewer goals. Now someone please tell me why they are rated as a top ten side!

James Daly and Jonah Ayunga are the only recognised strikers at the club and they have a combined total of 3 EFL games to their name. Defensively they’ve got a half decent lot of centre back options but they look weak at full back, whilst classy midfielders Liam Sercombe and Ollie Clarke, so long a positive partnership for Rovers, have departed. They’re one of my favourite bets of the summer at a huge 8/1 for relegation.

If Garner gets 15-20 games this season and on current form (over last 18/19 games), you'll be relegated just after Christmas.  

I wouldn't go during COVID as it is, but these kind of restrictions put the final nail in the coffin for me.  I won't attend until considered safe for 100% fan participation. 

19 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Spunked his inheritance in one go!

Seriously though, without the shackles of big brother counting every penny - and, assuming he has a few more quid - could see Rovers finally getting some investment.

If not, think first year student who has done his grant, student loans and is on the bones of his arse by Christmas year one. 

Wally getting his inheritance has all the makings of a squaddies pay-day. 

Just now, daored said:

But a regional lockdown would remove those clubs as an example, alternatively in the south west would just be us

Schools in the North West have today been told that a return to school has been delayed from the 8th to at least the 22nd due to increased 'R' rate. Wonder what impact that will have on North West teams.

22 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

EFL just reported 17 new cases in the championship

Don't care about how this bears out statistically, we are moving too fast out of this lockdown. 

3 minutes ago, hodge said:

I mean it would be so Leeds to screw it up after this break 

With their support such a big part of their performances it will be interesting yo see how they are behind closed doors. 

9 hours ago, hodge said:

Please don’t award Leeds another 6 points 

Why not? They're up.

Takes points from play off rivals though. 

4 hours ago, stephenkibby. said:

My Leeds supporting mate reckons they could be playing Swansea and Cardiff at Ashton Gate.

If they cannot fulfil a home fixture the game should be voided or postponed until such time it can be completed. 

1 hour ago, OldlandReddies said:

Boris says date for pubs opening may be brought forward............great news .......I'm desperate for that first pint of cold Thatcher's Gold !

Too soon I'd say. Boris trying to distract attention from the utter flustercuck his government have made of the COVID response. 

47 minutes ago, Bobby Bollax said:

‘Johnson out ‘ now trending on twitter

I'd happy if they both went 

5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I see that Hull have had leaked sent another letter about their stance on the remaining Championship season.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/05/23/exclusive-hull-city-reiterates-opposition-championship-second/

I did find it amusing that they were complaining about the first one being leaked- how long have they been in the game, they surely know it is a leaky industry and has been for some time.

If they object to it that strongly they should forfeit all their remaining games on principle. 

1 hour ago, Dr Balls said:

There is a level of hypocrisy from footballers wanting to be paid in full but not go back to playing, as stated quite clearly by Simon Jordan on Newsnight last night. The risk is if they want pay but don’t play, football clubs go bust and they are left far more out of pocket. TV companies are going to pull their contracts and funding if there is no product. Biting the hand that feeds you comes to mind...

The reality is that very few people of active professional playing age are becoming unwell with this virus. Is anyone aware of a  current player anywhere being hospitalised? Are black players at more risk? Maybe but the risk is very small anyway for young adults. The biggest risk is to the other staff (coaches etc) who are older and more likely to become seriously unwell, or to older members of players’ families. Well the answer to that one is to isolate the players from their families for a short period of a few weeks and appropriate levels of testing.

At some point, we are all going to be taking a level of risk with contracting Covid-19. Many of us are already having to work in various jobs, with differing levels of risk and protection, and can’t say “pay us in full but we don’t want to come back to work”.  Footballers will also have to accept that their old life isn’t possible at least for the next few months and they will have to find a different way. If they don’t, then they can’t expect the same exceedingly large rewards etc. 
 

P.S. The longer we go without football, the more irrelevant it will seem to larger swathes of the population. Once you lose the love, it’s very hard to get it back....

Yep.  Clubs should put in place all risk mitigation measures, as would any other business, and tell players to get on with it.  If they don't want to come back they should consider themselves in breach of contract.  Or take the high road and resign saying they won't play until a vaccine is found.  Getting sick of football and footballers to be perfectly honest. 

2 hours ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Agreed although this then becomes a contentious issue for the clubs paying their wages especially if some do and some don't

If players don't play then they don't get paid.  Everyone is at risk of the virus and will be expected to go back to work, with social distancing and risk mitigation factors at play, and get on with it.  Footballers will be in one of the most sterile environments going and will have less to worry about then Joe Blow jumping onto a bus with 50 other people to travel to an office with 50 other people.  If footballers cannot live with this then they need a career change to something that poses them no risk, like a webcam operation.

Everyone is going to have to learn to live with this; it isn't going away. We cannot stay locked up forever and life goes on. 

59 minutes ago, Super said:

Not a chance football will be back in a month.

Yep, agree.

Now for those footballers (who I agree with BTW) concerned about health and safety, they are going to have a decision to make should they feel that they don't want to be involved.  If they feel it is not safe, then in my eyes it shouldn't be safe for them until there is a vaccine. With that being years away, they are potentially throwing themselves onto the scrapheap.  

All over for the slags this season (and maybe, hopefully longer)

BREAKING: The EFL are set to inform League One and League Two clubs next week that there is NO CHANCE of the season being completed. Clubs will have to vote on how the final positions in the table will be decided.

1 hour ago, cidered abroad said:

Is she?

With daily death numbers over 400, that is at least 3,000 per week.

Do you consider that this is acceptable?

And if so, would this number increase quickly if the current lockdown rules were relaxed?

It appears to me that a relaxation now, is based on economics over health.

We won't know will we.  But we cannot stay locked down forever.  At some point the economic damage far outweighs that caused to health and actually makes succumbing to other illnesses more likely.  Tricky situation to be in and there is probably no right time to unlock.

Although, we aren't coming out of lockdown - you know that right?   We are relaxing a few of the restrictions in gradual phases. People have got their knickers in a twist about this, when it's simple.

6 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

 

May 5, 2020 at 3:46pm Gassy said: I’d do it, proving it guaranteed the survival of the club   So would I. I would hope that the City Council would chip in as well. Rovers is a Bristol institution with a 130+ year history.

It's an institution alright, but not the sort any right minded individual would want to be associated with.      Destitution maybe.

:laugh: a Bristol institution! They spent 10 years in Bath and have spent the last 20 hears trying to leave Bristol. Mental institution would be right.