bexhill reds

1 minute ago, RUSSEL85 said:

Yes, will be a Southampton spunk fest! 

Will that be anymore or any less bearable than the Leeds-fest?

Just now, And Its Smith said:

The point is then, don’t moan about something when you don’t have all the facts 

Correct, premature reaction on my part, although my thoughts on Mehmeti still stand. Not sure he offers much to be honest.

Pring usually had to do a huge amount of work as he does not get large amount of support from him, worried about of left side tonight.

1 minute ago, Red Army 87 said:

Confirmed by LM on pre match interview that cornick is feeling under the weather, but makes the bench. 

Thanks for clarifying, no Radio Bristol for me. 

Still think we’re going to be weaker on the left, as both Roberts and Mehmeti have a habit of drifting inside.

1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

It's almost like some people forget they are human beings, not robots that just need a recharge.

Not disagreeing, but surely start for 45 then change it if required. Makes sense to take the game to Southampton no?

Just now, transfer reader said:

You mean Cornick who went off with a knock at half time?

So he's likely not fit for a full 90.

 

And especially with us having had a lot of fixtures probably would have needed a rest regardless of picking up a knock.

Off because off the amount of running, not a knock… Makes little sense from that perspective 

4 minutes ago, The Coach said:

How does Mehmeti start?

Exactly Cornick at the heart of everything we did well in Sat, but overlooked for a headless chicken with all the defensive capability of blancmange, especially with Pring out. That’s not meant to spite Roberts but he’ll need support tonight, and he won’t get that from Mehmeti.

Poor.

29 minutes ago, pride of the west said:

Any ideas of the origins of this for us? I started attending late 80s as a wee nipper when it seemed to start but I was too young to know when and how it came about

I remember it from the shed end of the then Enclosure which was the standing terrace in front of what is now the Lansdown, it usually involved the lots of surges back and forward to the front. Great fun.

Car crash club for a car crash manager… won’t be there long, the ownership team down there are just mad.

19 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

I really feel that that are a lot on here ( from reading their posts) who want Manning to fail just so it backs up their view that NP should not have been sacked. 

Disagree, opinions on here are a sociologist dream.

There is a whole science of covering change. As context my employer has over the past 2 years cut 50% of the workforce, and to help people manage change they’ve provided some change management sessions. One of the instruments used  in the sessions, is the change curve, which covers the start of the change - anger, and then goes through a number of stages, denial, shock, depression and then you reach openness to change, acceptance and then embracing the change.

I think views on the forum are very reflective of these different stages and where individuals are on the curve and everyone has their own starting point and their own rate of change and indeed some will never wish to embrace change, from a work perspective they leave and from a forum perspective they just get ignored.

I don’t think that there are people deliberately wanting Manning to fail, I’d suggest that assuming we all want our team to play attractive and successful football, then their perceived negativity is merely a reflection on where they are on the curve and the obvious targets to express their fustration is Manning, Tinnion and or the Lansdowns.

if my memory serves me right Cotts was not initially a widely celebrated choice initially, but he brought about one of the most successful and attractive City teams I seen in my lifetime and most supporters I suggest would agree he was a great appointment.

No problem with being critical about Manning at times, I’ve been critical about his tactics this afternoon, and I was very critical when he first joined, but I’m being won over by some of the performances and the positive results of the coaching on a number of players, so I guess I’m moving towards acceptance.

Just now, bexhill reds said:

Uh-oh, the vax / anti-vax rabbit has been let out of the bag…..

Shall we stick to football on this thread or go down the whole George Soros / Rothschilds / Con Trail /Flat Earth debate while we’re at it as well.

And I forgot Bill Gates and Nanoprobes, never leave out the classics

Uh-oh, the vax / anti-vax rabbit has been let out of the bag…..

Shall we stick to football on this thread or go down the whole George Soros / Rothschilds / Con Trail /Flat Earth debate while we’re at it as well.

5 minutes ago, The Coach said:

 May even possibly do a Wes Burns.

And play for a Championship team that’s challenging for promotion, that Wes Burns?

SB has got the reputation of a clinical finisher in his age group, and I accept that his decision making for the one on one today was poor, but I think that there is a player in there. His decision making is the one thing he’s got to improve upon and he’ll only get that through experience and coaching.

I’m not prepared to write him off yet, as he appears keen to learn and adapt his game, so far he’s played LWB, RWB, RB and very little down the middle. I’d argue he’s more adaptable and a team player than Conway, who looks to have a major sulk on at present.

1 hour ago, The Coach said:

A smart forward with the intelligence of a good striker in this league. It’s something Conway has glimmers of at times and something I believe Bell will not have at this level.

Big fan of Wells, but his age does appear to catch up at times. Definitely need a couple of strikers in this summer window.

In a thread about Wells and Knight you still manage to get your Sam Bell dig in…. Excellent work.

Perhaps given that Wells seems to have a reputation with working with younger players, he might help Bell improve, this is the same Bell that worked on weights during the offseason to bulk himself up as people complained he was too lightweight, so clearly there is a want to learn and that can only be a good thing. I’m not going to write him off yet, plenty of time for him to improve.

1 minute ago, UncleRed said:

Trying to out think the opposition is what all managers do. And trying to make it difficult for the opposition? That’s called defensive strategy I believe, what all coaches do, even the very best.

Just a question, what if he kept the 433 formation and we dropped points. What would your reaction be then?

Nothing wrong with a proactive change, as long as it takes the game to the opposition? I’m afraid you massively overrate this squad. What about a change that sees out the game and results in 3 away points?

A footballing side was asked to play football, and failed.

The decision was to get a team that’s played 120 mins of football on a Wed night and 2 centre halves that have more or less played every minute of football this season to basically recreate Rourke’s Drift for 45 mins by constantly defending. That to me does not suggest we’re making life difficult for the opposition.

I never suggested he keep to 4-3-3 throughout the game, but why not give it 10 mins as a 3rd goal would have killed it.

All if’s buts and maybe’s, we got over the line and that is testament to the players, but not necessarily as a benefit of the change.

Still you won’t have it so best to leave it there. Enjoy your evening.

4 minutes ago, UncleRed said:

 

I’m not sure it was futile, but there you go all about opinions I guess, probably best to leave it as you have your opinion and I have mine, at the end of the season it will just be seen as 3 points. 

I am concerned that Manning sometimes appears to try to super coach and out think the opposition and only make life more difficult, and it’s not the first time I’ve felt that during a game. FWIW I do think that he has improved the team’s play at times, but I would hope that he’ll look back at his choices in the 2nd half and question whether they were right and learn just like he sets that challenge for the players.

Nothing wrong with a proactive change if it takes the game to the opposition, but in this case the change was to sit deeper and ask a footballing side to play football. 

1 minute ago, UncleRed said:

 

Ok, you clearly have a view that you are not prepared to question or indeed accept question. I’m not talking about hindsight, but merely questioning the wisdom of making a change that did not immediately need to occur. As fans are we not allowed to question decisions made by both players and coaches?

We seem to be in a place where any suggestion of being critical about Manning is wrong and he should be defended at all costs. 

11 minutes ago, UncleRed said:

Literally replied to my post asking questions about my opinions in which the answers are in the post. 

Perhaps you’re literally not being prepared to accept that Manning might have got it wrong…..

I think sometimes he has a tendency to try to be too clever, today was one of those examples. By all means have the plan at the back of your mind especially as the players are experienced enough with that formation to be able to quickly adapt to the change if it needed to be made, so it’s not as if it takes 15 mins to change it, but why not see what Boro do in the first 10-15 mins of the half.

He talks about the players learning, let’s hope he does as well, we could equally be talking tonight about a 2 goal lead squandered and 2 points lost.

4 minutes ago, UncleRed said:

Unfortunately decisions can’t be made with hindsight.

What if they kept a back 4 and boro came out the gates flying and scored early on, having momentum for 40 minutes and LM has to change tactics on the fly from the dugout.

Instead, anticipating a good coach in Michael Carrick isn’t gonna let a repeat of the first half happen. And changes tactics at half time where he has around 15 minutes to get messages across and make sure the players get everything on board and rely on our best side of this team, Defending.

I can’t believe some people will find any little thing to try and moan about, especially when you look at the schedule the players had and what actually just happened. WINNING away to boro fgs.

Why change something that was working? Boro were a beaten team in the first half, start the 1st 10 mins of the 2nd half with the same intensity, crowd on backs etc? 

We just sat too deep and invited them to play and Boro have got too much quality for that.

Great result, but we were definitely on the ropes.

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Anyone who’s up top solo in that role seems to be extremely quiet and on the periphery of the game. Was a victim of how the second half went as a whole, but Tommy touched the ball 6 times in the 40-odd minutes he was on the pitch. 

That’s a fair point. Hopefully this is something that he gets and does not allow himself to become disillusioned especially with contract conversations seemingly coming to the fore.

1 minute ago, old_eastender said:

Agree, losing Cornick and switching to a back 3/5 handed them the initiative. We just surrender the midfield when we end-up 5 at the back.

Thought Tommy was unusually poor too, didn't have any service but also stood and watched their CBs stroll into our half instead of pressing them.

I thought he looked uncharacteristically quiet, I get you have to pick your battles when you are the one up top against 3, but just looked a bit off.

3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I note the same people that were deriding Manning for not being tactically flexible enough are now criticising him for changing formation. 

You've gotta laugh. 

Arguably tactically wrong though, we ended up clinging on a little. I’m not totally convinced about his game management, although I can’t knock how he’s improved certain aspects of our play at times.

1 minute ago, Super said:

Boro were never gonna be as bad 2nd half.

No, but inviting the pressure did not help, we certainly looked all over the place in the 2nd half compared to the control and pressure we had in the first. Appreciate that the change might have been to help tired legs, but we never look convincing parking the bus.

Just now, Curr Avon said:

Was it just me but did Cornick play well in the first half? Good hold up play, coupled with great runs and precision passing.

 

I thought he was excellent, I think he’s a very underrated player tarnished by when he’s been brought onto the pitch usually when we are either chasing the game or looking to sit in and block.

I’d like to see him start more often, certainly I’d be starting him over Mehmeti.

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Give it a rest ffs.

I think it’s a fair point, it did seemed to invite too much pressure today, especially when you consider our first half performance.

Just now, Major Isewater said:

Bloody Christians . 

And so highlighting the clear value of punctuation for all kids reading this….