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53 minutes ago, Steve Watts said:

Give it up, James.  If you argue with an idiot they'll eventually just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.  

 

So I am a idiot for stating things that are coming into power, things that people were called crackpots a year ago for suggesting it would happen... Hmm who's the idiots now?  

If you want society to have a system where our children are being forced into having unnecessary jabs ( as was stated by the JCVI and overruled by our Government). Then that's totally on you. If you think it will stop there then more fool you, hasn't the last 2 years  taught you anything?

All these restrictions because 9 people out of a population of 68,000,000 are in hospital " With" the new varient... For me and others this makes no sense, for you and a lot of others it's clearly justified of which is scary as hell.

1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said:

Aww bless. 
 

Wassup PhonyPhonyPhony..

4 minutes ago, James54De said:

Other governments you thick ****

What the hell is our health secretary  setting rules for other countries then..ha ha .. You need a coved pass when you return to the UK. My god!

6 minutes ago, James54De said:

Got nothing to do with the UK government, that. 

Well who the funking hell has it got to do with then. Jesus Christ! Time to take a break because you guys are just way too much

22 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

You do realise you can watch Bristol city at Ashton gate without having had a vaccine don’t you ?  It seems like you don’t 

What about travel? What about the fact 12 -15 year olds will need a vaccine passport to travel. I'm sure this is OK with you aswell.

6 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

If you can’t add up perhaps you should have listened more at school

Ha Ha Ha you got me there PhonyPhonyPhony.

12 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

No, wrong again. Three jabs or two jabs and a negative LFT

the clubs requirement stipulates two as acceptable..,,

 

“People will be able to demonstrate proof of two vaccine doses via the NHS app. We understand that proof of a negative Lateral Flow Test will also be accepted, but details around this have not yet been released.”

Hasn't the last 2 years taught you anything..

How many times do the crackpot conspiracy theorists need to be correct

 for people to admit something ain't adding up.

Also 12 - 15 year olds will require a Covid Pass to travel....

Conspiracy theorists crackpots  correct again! 

11 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Eh? So with the covid passports is it triple jabbed or negative LFT?   I thought it was double jabbed 

Soon no longer will double jabbed people be classed as unvaccinated.

And just like that, all double jabbed people are now classed as unvaccinated.

Them pesky conspiracy theorist were right again!

5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I would like to see what you think the correct numbers are...provide them please. If they are not from the ONS, where are they from?

I said the 170k was "with". It seems reading is not a strong point for you, along with numbers. 

I'm not the one spreading misinformation. You originally said 130k had died "of " COVID. Which is wrong! They died "with" COVID. It's completely different and you know it.

7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

My numbers are from the ONS, and I've made clear what they refer to...

Let's see what your numbers are then, the floor is yours. 

Not sure I said I would, perhaps you want to twist this aswell?

Post me a link where it states that 170k people have died "from" COVID and not "with".

3 minutes ago, frenchred said:

I don't see mask wearing as a restriction, just another piece of dress nowadays. Vaccine passports you have a choice if you don't have one it's your choice. Social distancing and lock down are irrelevant at this time.

So putting on a mask and flashing a bit of paper ain't that much to ask to help us all safely move forward.

That's not answering the question, is it. No need to as I already know the answer. 

1 minute ago, frenchred said:

I will ask you again, what restrictions?

Mandated mask wearing, vaccine passports, travel, social distancing,  lockdown. Zero covid restrictions which the government has under the Covid Act.

6 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Well if it could have a devastating impact on us then yeah. Wouldn't you?

Would you rather just do nothing at all from now on, and if we get totally screwed over then so be it?

Thought so, Jesus!

1 minute ago, IAmNick said:

  

It's not at all. Cancer is a great example of an awful disease that kills people - but rarely is what actually kills them.

Take a cancer of the digestive system. It stops you absorbing food, so you die of malnutrition (or weakness due to it).

Liver cancer can and will screw up the chemical balance in your body.

If you get shot and as a result have a heart attack and die, did being shot kill you?

If you get covid, develop pnuemonia, are greatly weakened and die of infection did covid kill you?

As I said, it's not as simple as you're making out.

The problem is you're looking for a very simple answer to an extremely complex question - which says a lot about how you view this whole thing.

Right now, I think in a couple of months we should have a much clearer picture the impact Omicron will have so that seems like a sensible amount of time to review things. That could then be to continue restrictions, step them up, or remove them.

So if the situation where there's a new variant evolved in 2 years and the government said it "might "be nasty. You would still be happy under restrictions such as lockdown?

5 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

What restrictions? Showing my phone before a game or whatever?

I don't like it, but I get why it's there. I'd obviously rather none at all as we all would... I don't enjoy any of them.

If it's a small thing I can do to help society then I'll do it. It's no skin off my back really. I went to an awards do in London a couple of weeks ago which required it, it was dead easy.

Answer the question then. How long will you tolerate the government imposing restrictions on our lives, be it lockdown, facemasks or vaccine passports?

Pretty sure I already know the answer.

Just now, IAmNick said:

If it's so simple it's odd you can't explain it!

Many diseases greatly weaken us, but it's something else that actually kills us. It's not black and white like you're implying.

That's why none of these numbers and metrics are perfect, but you can look at them together and get a decent picture of things.

Complete madness.

10 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Hah - you asked the question, and sounds like you have no idea at all what you're actually asking for.

Out of interest how long will you honestly tolerate restrictions?

2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Hah - you asked the question, and sounds like you have no idea at all what you're actually asking for.

If you can't work out what the difference is between "of" and " with", then I definitely won't be wasting my time in explaining myself. Its pretty simple, :laugh:.

7 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

What do you count as "of"?

If someone has cancer, is greatly weakened, and dies of a simple infection is that a cancer death or not? Do you literally have to be killed by the thing for it to matter - or if it weakens you (or contributes significantly) is that enough? What's the line?

The line is someone quoting numbers when they have no idea what the true figures are and putting it out as facts to suit their arguments. 

17 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Yeah with covid on the death certificate it's actually much higher - 170,000.

Thanks for correcting me, alas it hasn't helped your argument one bit

Of course it has, twisting the truth doesn't make you correct. 

So how many people actually died "of" covid and not "with" then? I would like to see proof not just your slanted opinion..

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Up to August this year 5 deaths in the UK had been recorded as having a covid vaccination as the underlying cause of death.

Up to August this year approximately 130,000 people in the UK had died of Covid.

There is a right answer. Try harder. 

Wrong.

With covid not necessarily of covid.

Here's the problem when people twist the truth to fit thier argument.  

Try harder.

5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

You’re the one who is preaching here. Preaching and speculating about everyone else’s motives. If you chose to quietly not show prove, I might believe you aren’t scared. The fact you need to bleat on about it and try to convince everyone else too reeks of insecurity. You’re anxious, scared and desperate for like minded people to reassure you that you are doing the right thing. That much is obvious to anyone reading your posts 

So stop projecting and accusing others of feeling the fear you feel yourself. You fool nobody. I don’t really think you even fool yourself.

I'm just responding to people's comments. Ever so sorry for questioning ignorant people on here. 

I won't do it again. Well until the next scandal of which I'm sure won't be long.

It's been fun, bye bye.

The next thing will be mandated vaccinations of which the majority on here are probably in favour of. So the question is who are the selfish ones?