big p

1 minute ago, Redinthehead said:

What? I don't think I've ever seen 20,000 people crammed in to Sainsbury's. That doesn't contradict anything.

So in a 20k stadium you are sat within 2 meters of everyone? Nope, so how would you get infected.My seat I'm probably sat 10/15 people within 2 meters.

 More chance in a pub/supermarket  where there could be a hundred people moving around in very close proximity touching the same stuff...

1 minute ago, BS2 Red said:

You are right, it's really not difficult. The vaccine reduces the risk of passing on the virus. It is therefore preferable that unvaccinated people do not get together in large groups. See how easy that is to understand?

Right, I'll give it another go.

Do you go in pubs supermarkets etc. I presume you don't because they don't use covid passports... if you do then you completely contradict the argument for covid passports .

I'm not talking about vaccines.

Just now, lenred said:

They track us anyway (unless you live completely off grid), and can get any info they want about us with a few clicks of a button, so it’s a complete non argument.  It’s just mass paranoia and / or an excuse on your part and every other person who uses this as yet another excuse. 

Thats OK then, Jesus.

1 minute ago, Redinthehead said:

Why wouldn't you want to reduce the spread of something negative? 

You don't get it, I could be here all day but people still won't get ... Good luck.

1 minute ago, Redinthehead said:

If governments wanted to track people, introducing vaccine passports is definitely the way to go. You can then see them for a short amount of time when they attend 1 or 2 events a week. If only there was another far more obvious way of tracking people all of the time, that most people already have in their pockets 

But do you know android and Ios refused the NHS app because there were considerable security flaws...GPS etc... But our government wouldn't do that, would they?

4 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

There's one big massive flaw with your argument.

The vaccines do help reduce the spread.

But it doesn't stop it. So what's the point of the passport...

It's really not difficult..

1 minute ago, BS2 Red said:

Did my post give the impression that I think medically exempt people are the same as the selfish anti-vaxxers?

Those that are medically exempt are clearly not selfish. They are also the same people that will be trapped at home while the selfish anti-vaxxers make it dangerous for those with medical conditions to go out.

I've had the Jab, but the selfish people are the ones forcing young people to have a relatively new technology against their will by peer pressure, the same young people who willmost likely build natural immunity against it...

2 minutes ago, Selred said:

They reduce the spread, not stop it completely. 

Not hard to understand.

So why do we need covid passports? My god..

3 minutes ago, lenred said:

Tell me then!!

They want to track everyone! And given the chance it will turn into the social credit system. Look it up.

2 minutes ago, Selred said:

Exactly. You'd think some world leaders would speak out if it was a Conspiracy wouldn't you. 

Same as Doctors, other medical experts etc.

Almost as if it's not a 

9 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

How? 

 

Jeeze, What's the point of covid  passport?

To make sure only vaccinated people enter crowded areas to help the prevention of spread...

But people are still catching it?

Because vaccines don't stop the spread. 

So what's the point of covid passports?

4 minutes ago, lenred said:

Control of what? Trying to control the virus and how many people it makes seriously ill and how many it kills and impacts upon NHS resources?  Guessing so. Not the ‘control’ you’re referring to though that’s for sure.  

I give up.

Just now, big p said:

Yes, but this makes the Covid Passport useless.. 

So why is the Government pushing the passport so hard?

Control?

1 minute ago, pillred said:

Because those with one are less likely to infect those around them, surely you can see the good in that.

Yes, but this makes the Covid Passport useless.. 

Just now, BS2 Red said:

To show who has been vaccinated.

So how did this benefit Piers Morgan .....Please think..

Just now, BS2 Red said:

It's hardly sneaky, they've told you about it in advance. 

Are you aware of all the other laws of which the government is trying to pass. None of them made the news by the way...

Just now, BS2 Red said:

It works in reducing the risk of catching it and spreading it. And it reduces the chances of becoming seriously ill.

Nobody has ever claimed it's 100% effective.

So what's the point of the covid passport?

1 minute ago, pillred said:

It's to try and encourage you to have it that's all, the final decision is still yours, and are you really going to cut your nose off to spite your face?

Please read what I wrote above.

12 minutes ago, lenred said:

What else are they going to do then? 

Piers Morgan has had his jabs and was tested, but caught covid at Wembley, so please explain to me how a covid passport would work then?

Here's a clue? It doesn't.. So the next question you should be asking yourself is,  why is our government pushing this so hard?

Just now, Bristol Rob said:

You said you would never give your medical details to a business.

Life insurers generally need that information prior to approving a policy. 

For the record I don't have life insurance, and even if I did that would be my choice to hand it over... For me to enter a nightclub I will have no choice... 

Just now, BS2 Red said:

Yes, that's a choice. 

Taking away choice would be the threat of a huge fine or being put in prison.

Needing a vaccine to go to the football isn't forcing anybody to do anything.

You really think it will stop there? Governments regularly add laws but rarely retract them..

2 minutes ago, lenred said:

But you said you’ve had it?  I don’t get your issue here? 

Because come September they are suggesting you will have to prove you have had it.. Can you not see the difference? 

1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said:

Here speaks a man with no life insurance. I hope you don't have a mortgage.

If you don't understand the difference, then I don't have the time or patience to explain it to you ... Again Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind.

1 minute ago, BS2 Red said:

Nobody is being forced to have it. Everyone has the choice.

Really? But I cant go to a football match, cinema, church nightclub without it come September...Hmm!

This is bigger than City, I will never give anyone my medical details to any business , never! And to allow this will set damaging precedent for the future.... I've seen scary comments suggesting "it's only a barcode", it's not!

How many people know that the government has been selling your NHS , medical records to pharma and other corporations for years? In the future you and your children/grandchildrens  medicall history  will effect the ability to borrow money, jobs etc... How do I know? Well for the past four years I have been working on a project which will help combat this..

I've been jabbed, but no-one should ever be forced to have an medication which has only been allowed because we are in "Emergency " conditions.. The fear and blackmail, coercion being used by governments around the world is quite frankly criminal... Anyone in my eyes who thinks different has clearly been brainwashed by the Sage team(12) behavioral scientists. Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind, the inability for people to think for themselves has been the scariest thing, it's frightening. 

I for one will never step foot in Ashton Gate if they introduce the social credit system style covid passport. Been watching City on /off for 35 years,been a season ticket holder for 13 years.