Whites Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 If you HAD to choose one of the above, who would it be? And just for the record, for me it's LT every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I believe Stern John missed a penalty v El Salvador tonight, lost them the game, shocking Pen, don't think Bradley will be worried about John taking pens from him anytime soon. Can be seen on this video around 0.38 secs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 You ask either one or the other. I would say neither one or the other. I would be happy with Adebola, Maynard, Styvar and Akinde to carry us through the season. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonwheeler Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Lee Trundle IS a BCFC player currently out on loan and Stern John IS a Southampton player currently out on loan. The key word is. IS LT for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 John is the proven scorer at this level. He has a sublime touch, although considering his wages and the fact he's been brought here to score goals, I think most of us would have expected more. That said, all strikers struggle from time to time (eg Maynard) and I'm confident he'll be an important component of the squad for the rest of the season. Trundle, very simply, not proven in the championship. Fantastic entertainer and by all accounts a good bloke too, and I wish him well wherever he ends up. But the adulation he has received here for, frankly, not too much return, is ridiculous, as is the carping at John. So, Stern for me every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTRAM Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 GOt to be LT for just based on what he offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 As Bill Clinton said " what is, IS ?". In any case its just playing with words. We have two over paid 32 year olds at the end of their careers, both out on loan. I would hope that they are both elsewhere next season. To the original question, in a life and death situation I would choose Stern. Why, because he has done the job at this level and above. Trundle has not done a consistent job when selected. Imo, he is too easily pushed off the ball and too easily goes to ground and pleads with the referee. With someone his size he is a lightweight, especially compared to Brooker or Adebola who put themselves about. Players like Trundle and Plummer will always attract attention with their skills and party tricks, in the hard reality of a the physical contest they are found wanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I accept Rednready's comment, but f I had to choose it would be John, as one has a proven record of scoring goals in the Championship in his career and the other doesn't. I really doubt that we'll retain John beyond season's end, but I expect we'll find it far harder to attract any interest at all to take Trundle off our hands this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I accept Rednready's comment, but f I had to choose it would be John, as one has a proven record of scoring goals in the Championship in his career and the other doesn't. I really doubt that we'll retain John beyond season's end, but I expect we'll find it far harder to attract any interest at all to take Trundle off our hands this summer. If Leeds fail to stagger into promotion, perhaps an undisclosed offer from Leeds may be the best we can expect and accept. In any event GJ will be likely to show a huge loss on the LT's investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 John.. Another couple of goals and he will have passed LT record for us anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern John. By a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff65 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'd take a motivated John over a motivated Trundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern John. Look at the stats and experience. Also I find Stern more effective off the bench which is what both players seem to do alot (come off the bench). John has been better for our younger players too- more influential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern John - Because Lee Trundle has had his chance here to be a success. Stern John is very frustrating and seems lazy - but I'm sure we have not seen the best of him yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern John - Because Lee Trundle has had his chance here to be a success. Stern John is very frustrating and seems lazy - but I'm sure we have not seen the best of him yet! 8 people for Stern John, 3 for Trunds. I'm amazed. Pleased, but amazed none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 John for me too! I rate Trundle but if its a strate choice it would be John everytime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gater2 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trundle for me. Afraid I'm in the 'was never given a constant run in the team' camp. Quality footballer and wonderful bloke (and before anyone says it, no I don't think you should be given games just because you're a nice guy, I was just noting it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern for me every time. He poses a threat to goal at this level which Trunds, despite being a top bloke, simply doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern John, the lesser of two evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenBehavingBadly Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trundle for me. Yes I know he's played alot, but he's never had the quality of service and with that quality service is far more likely to change a game than John. The jury is still out for me on John, I want to him to show he wants to be here and to influence a game. Not seen this yet, but I don't doubt he has the ability. Show us your stuff John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderSomerset Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trundle for me. He puts in the effort on the pitch whereas the other stands around waiting for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trundle for me. Afraid I'm in the 'was never given a constant run in the team' camp. Quality footballer and wonderful bloke (and before anyone says it, no I don't think you should be given games just because you're a nice guy, I was just noting it). Trundle has had 29 starts & 31 sub appearances and managed to score 8 goals Even darren byfield got 8 goals and he only started 17 times and made 17 sub appearances - HE could claim that he never got enough opportunity. Trundle has been given a "rew constant runs" in the side and only one run of games looked good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red man dan Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Without a doubt, stern John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Blimey, I thought that I would be coming onto this thread and being one of the only people that said Stern John! But yes, if he was properly up for it I would have John in the team any day. I think unfortunately LT came to the Championship a few years late. As much as I would have loved for him to set the league on fire he only ever looked like doing that against tiring players with 15 minutes to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Sadly, football these days seems to be that the result is all that matters. Happily, for me that's not the case as I primarily go to football to be entertained. So for me, it would be Trundle every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicalsurfer Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trundle. The quicker john packs his bags and sods off the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stern John for me. They both only show glimpses of ability. However John gets in dangerous positions more frequently and therefore affects the game more. Trundle was diabolical the other night-in league one!! anyone who says Trundle is being romantic and letting their heart rule their head I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Sadly, football these days seems to be that the result is all that matters. Happily, for me that's not the case as I primarily go to football to be entertained. So for me, it would be Trundle every time. Exactly. Neither player has a good goal return in a Red shirt, but Trundle adds so much more to an afternoon's enjoyment. The excitement amongst the crowd when Trundle is about to come on compared with Stern says it all. Trundle, by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Nose Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 John, better footballer - more chance of a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee F Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trundle for me every time! John looks disinterested and for all the 'He has a great touch, helps the youngsters' etc crap that is spouted, he was bought in to be a goal threat and he isn't. I have watched every one of his performances bar 1 since he has been here and have come away thinking the same every time. He is here for his own benefit only, be that money or international team status. LT on the other hand plays with passion and excites the crowd when he plays. I am a Trundle fan because I like players with flair and the ability to do the unexpected but can admit it has not worked out as planned thus far for him. But when all is said and done his goal against Palace and the 2 in the 1st game of last season made him excellent value for money imo. Why? Because the 2 against QPR gave us the fans and more importantly the team the belief that City could compete at CCC level. The goal against palace took us to the 'Pray off' final. So all in all well worth having bought him. I would like to see him given another shot in the same side as Maynard who is now finding his feet and the net with increasing assurity. Trundle could become the perfect creator for him I think and chip in with a few goals of his own. That said Adebola is performing brilliantly so a place on the bench is the best he could hope for atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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