gaz897 Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 The point is though, that we aren't drawing that many games at home. Two points a game at average this season at home - if we get 52 points at home it doesn't take a genius to work out that a few decent results away will get us a play off place. I know what your saying and maybe I am hasty calling for the managers head. But it doesn't take a genius (or RIAZ) to figure out that the style of football we're playing is tinkered with 3 or 4 times a match is always a bad choice to start the game. It just never works, the fans inside the ground can see it. Thats why you get fans signaling 4-4-2 and chanting attack, attack attack at GJ!! I understand why we would set the team out that way away from home against a good team like up at Newcastle (easily my favourite game of the season and it was 0-0) but its too negative and defensive and we have really good players who I think should be destroying the like of Peterbrough etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red man dan Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 SACK EVERYONE, and BURN DOWN ASHTON GATE. Then we wont have to put up with this god awful and evil football in Bristol anymore. We can all go and support Rovers in league one, or pick any from Weston Super Mare, Bath City, Yate Town ETC or travel to Swindon Town or Yeovil(also in league one), or maybe a little further to Southampton(cuz they are doing super).................... Some people Flags up from those who are gratefull for what we have here at the moment (top 6 and trips to Newacastle, West Brom, Boro) 'ALL' of our west country 'rivals' can only dream of such things..... Yes, it might be nice to see some 'Brazil' type play now and again, but it could be MUCH MUCH worse, we could be playing this style of play(which imo opinion isnt horrific or 'pulis' like in league 1/2 at Aldershot or Wrexham. Wanting to play more attractive football is fine, but suggesting we sack a manager, who is having us perform at the top end of this division, to achieve it is simply madness. As for the team selection/tactics, it could be that given all the new arrivals that GJ hasnt as yet fully worked out what is best, and if so, being 5th while that is sussed out is a pretty good return. Lets just say Roy Keane is taking a while to work his out, and look how many points they have got in the process. Lets have some perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Barcelona tickets Flight do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 It just never works The facts suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 SACK EVERYONE, and BURN DOWN ASHTON GATE. Then we wont have to put up with this god awful and evil football in Bristol anymore. We can all go and support Rovers in league one, or pick any from Weston Super Mare, Bath City, Yate Town ETC or travel to Swindon Town or Yeovil(also in league one), or maybe a little further to Southampton(cuz they are doing super).................... Some people You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints. Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?! Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints. Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?! Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season? I think it's just that some of us can;t understand how five wins out of eight is dire in anyone's book. I enjoy it when we win. If I want entertaining football, and I do, I watch Spanish football. It's fantastic, but it's much, much, much more entertaining to see City scrape a 1-0 win in a turgid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdgifford64 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints. Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?! Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season? Just accept that not many City fans see it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean, the football hasn`t been half as bad as many would have you believe. I`ve come to the conclusion that we are poles apart in our interpretations of what we see at a footie match, it`s actually boring me now so i vow to do my best to ignore these posts from this moment on. PDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think it's just that some of us can;t understand how five wins out of eight is dire in anyone's book. I enjoy it when we win. If I want entertaining football, and I do, I watch Spanish football. It's fantastic, but it's much, much, much more entertaining to see City scrape a 1-0 win in a turgid game. Fair play to you for explaining in a civil manner why you can't understand why some posters complain about the style of football that we are served at AG most weeks. We all enjoy it when we win but enjoy it much more when City have put a show, played well and beaten the other lot through better footballing skills and tactics. Sometimes when leaving AG after a 1-0 win I feel relieved that City have 3 points but also can't help thinking that we either a) were hanging on. b) got some lucky breaks and the rub of the green. c) worrying about when the wheels will come off. I can't remember the last time I left AG feeling that I'd witnessed a cracking performance. A half maybe - QPR for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastend Fan Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 This forum is CRAZY I dont understand how you want GJ out. Ok that your opinion and i'm not going to try and change that, but after all he has done for us I really think he is a great manager. Ok football might not be great at the moment, but IMP thats down to the players and not GJ. Could you get more attacking than Maynard, Haynes n Saborio (Soz if i spelt it wrong) up front all at once. Maybe its the players not working together or getting the balls through. However were still 5th in the table and I am very happy with the team and club atm. Its certainly keeping me at the Gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Fair play to you for explaining in a civil manner why you can't understand why some posters complain about the style of football that we are served at AG most weeks. We all enjoy it when we win but enjoy it much more when City have put a show, played well and beaten the other lot through better footballing skills and tactics. Sometimes when leaving AG after a 1-0 win I feel relieved that City have 3 points but also can't help thinking that we either a) were hanging on. b) got some lucky breaks and the rub of the green. c) worrying about when the wheels will come off. I can't remember the last time I left AG feeling that I'd witnessed a cracking performance. A half maybe - QPR for example. Let me get this right, you want us to win, and play brilliant football? Do you want someone to wipe your ass for you in the toilet too? a topless girl (or man :noexpression: ) to greet you when you get to the ground? anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Fair play to you for explaining in a civil manner why you can't understand why some posters complain about the style of football that we are served at AG most weeks. We all enjoy it when we win but enjoy it much more when City have put a show, played well and beaten the other lot through better footballing skills and tactics. Sometimes when leaving AG after a 1-0 win I feel relieved that City have 3 points but also can't help thinking that we either a) were hanging on. b) got some lucky breaks and the rub of the green. c) worrying about when the wheels will come off. I can't remember the last time I left AG feeling that I'd witnessed a cracking performance. A half maybe - QPR for example. Yes, I don't disagree that we've been short of brilliant performances. The fact that we've not quite clicked yet, but still are fifth, is mighty impressive in my eyes. Watwching your football team should surely be at times fantastic, at times awful and at times horrendously tense. But I can honestly say I've never been 'bored' at a City game. Frustrated, angry, upset certainly, but never bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 The lessons this taught is that it is much easier to find things to criticise, but much harder to find things to praise. In that respect, this forum merely mirrors human nature. I had my annual review today, so I know EXACTLY what you mean!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossey Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 This forum is CRAZY I dont understand how you want GJ out. Ok that your opinion and i'm not going to try and change that, but after all he has done for us I really think he is a great manager. Ok football might not be great at the moment, but IMP thats down to the players and not GJ. Could you get more attacking than Maynard, Haynes n Saborio (Soz if i spelt it wrong) up front all at once. Maybe its the players not working together or getting the balls through. However were still 5th in the table and I am very happy with the team and club atm. Its certainly keeping me at the Gate How about trying Clarkson? what has he done wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Let me get this right, you want us to win, and play brilliant football? Do you want someone to wipe your ass for you in the toilet too? a topless girl (or man :noexpression: ) to greet you when you get to the ground? anything else? Has SL asked you to conduct a survey to identify the sort of facilities fans want at the new ground? I'd prefer it if ther tiopless giorl could wipemy ass, if that's OK. To be truthful, I'd really prefer the tiopkless girl to hold onto my ............................................. na, can't see it happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Lee Johnson had a shocker yesterday.... I wasnt defending him. Anyone who wants a new manager is thick as shit. here here i agree best post iv seen since the match finished on sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz897 Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Let me get this right, you want us to win, and play brilliant football? Do you want someone to wipe your ass for you in the toilet too? a topless girl (or man :noexpression: ) to greet you when you get to the ground? anything else? I think he just wants the team to be a bit more positive thats all. We have the ability to play brilliant football yet we continue to hoof the ball up from the back to strikers who are a better on the ground in the case of DH and NM. Nyatanga has shown the ability to pass well and looks a really good player yet playing along side McCombe he has started to launch the ball 40-50 yards up the pitch in the vain attempt to find a red shirt. Maynard would have scored 15 goals this season if we played to our strenghts. He's fantastic and takes every chance he gets, which is usualy 0-1-2 a game. as for the entertainment, the picture of the boy taking a No.2 on your profile does that job. I like that one. Nice work!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think he just wants the team to be a bit more positive thats all. We have the ability to play brilliant football yet we continue to hoof the ball up from the back to strikers who are a better on the ground in the case of DH and NM. Nyatanga has shown the ability to pass well and looks a really good player yet playing along side McCombe he has started to launch the ball 40-50 yards up the pitch in the vain attempt to find a red shirt. Maynard would have scored 15 goals this season if we played to our strenghts. He's fantastic and takes every chance he gets, which is usualy 0-1-2 a game. as for the entertainment, the picture of the boy taking a No.2 on your profile does that job. I like that one. Nice work!!!! Ever thought we went long because the wednesday made it difficult for the side to play or pass it around?! ps its not a toilet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz897 Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 We went long because of the formation we were playing with no width. When changed to 4-4-2 and Hartley came on he started pinging the ball around nicely. Yet next home game I et we go back to 3 at the back. Fair enough for away games in the championship where a point is a good result and a direct ball gives us that chance sometimes to 'nick' a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdgifford64 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 How about trying Clarkson? what has he done wrong? Nothing. Lost a lot of weight due to illness which he`s only just managed to get back apparently. PDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red man dan Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints. Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?! Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season? Not at all. Clearly this 'void' in tone/demeanor that occurs over the internet has been at play here. My comments are purely tongue in cheek, and I do not actually suggest people go and watch a non league side or s,hampton do I? I'm sure you realise that its purely a joking theoretical comment, I dont actually think we should sack everyone and commit arson leavng us with no choice but to support an other team. My point, with tongue in cheek banter (not a narrow minded or disrespectful jibe at others view) is that really we should have some perspective and realise that things could be VERY VERY much worse than they are at AG at the moment and I have emphsised that by highlighting the positions of other clubs in our region who we are now streets and miles ahead of. Whilst I am not suggesting this should give GJ and the team lisence to play awful football, I am suggesting that this really, really should be put into perspective. Not so long ago, we were on a par at best and below all of the teams around us. We have leapfrogged them all and, despite some not so Brazilain style performances, we are in a pretty damn good position to continue moving even further away from them. As I have mentioned elsewhere, i agree we are not setting the league on fire with attractive football, BUT many, if not the majority of teams in this league do not play this style that some at AG, believe we should adopt, in fact many play a similar level of 'attractvie'(or not depedning on opinion) football but DO NOT GET RESULTS that leave them 5th in the table after nearly a third of the season. IF, and only IF, we were playing this kind of game and languishing near the foot of the table then it would be a different matter, but at present we are at least putting ourselves amongst those in contention for promotion, and for me I find that a fair trade off considering we could have neither attractive football OR a decent league position. I also feel that GJ has not yet found his best 11 or indeed his best formation, maybe he should have, but the facts are, if he hasnt as yet he has done a pretty good job of securing 25 points for us whilst he sorts it out. I agree we could play better, more exciting football we could argue his team selections have been wrong, tactical decisions negative, but at the end of the day a manager is judged ultimately on his results and 5th in the table is not something we can argue with IMO. I beleive when PH is fully fit, we will see him play a more integral roll, when Sno is fully 'match fit' he will play in his more acustomed position and so forth. After 15 games many teams wont yet have found their feet fully and those who secure points in this phase of the season leave themselves in a VERY good postiton to push on when they do gel completely. I think we have a very exciting squad, one that when its fully fit, fully gelled and fully on form (i dont think we have been yet) will produce NOT only the results that we have seeen so far bu ALSO a better style of football. I dont think things will change massively, we will not be the 'Brazil' of the championship, but we have seen glimmers of attractive attacking football this season, and I think they will become more consistent and more a part of our approach from the off. In the mean time, whilst in 5th place and streets above those who were once laughing at us, I find it VERY hard to understand how some fans are SO negative, lets not forget what this threads OP suggested. That said, it is right that that people can have their opinion, but it is also right that I can express my view that thier opinion is wrong and 'IN MY OPINION' rather rediculous considering all the above. I enjoy wathcing Chelsea score goals like they did at Bolton on the weekend, fantastic football, but I also enjoy far more, my club winning games and moving towards a time and place when we might get to see those kinds of goals and players at AG (or the new stadium). Whilst that continues to be a possibility on the horizon with the current results I for one am happy to ease critisim on GJ and the stlye of football we are currently playing and think anyone that has sacking him on their minds is really rather odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 This is also worth noting Last season to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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