Riaz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Surely that was Adebola? Trundle had numerous opportunities with him, was also paired with every sort of striker under the sun and rarely delivered for us. precisely.... its just 101 excuses for trundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Surely that was Adebola? Trundle had numerous opportunities with him, was also paired with every sort of striker under the sun and rarely delivered for us. Spot on. Was going to post the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Give him a chance...he can turn a game For Lee's best I hope Swansea are willing to extend the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Surely that was Adebola? Trundle had numerous opportunities with him, was also paired with every sort of striker under the sun and rarely delivered for us.Cant remember Trundle ever getting the chance to play up front with Dele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Cant remember Trundle ever getting the chance to play up front with Dele? Ah yes, but you can remember us playing football under Pulis!! I thought MY memory was going, but I'm feeling encouraged now............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Cant remember Trundle ever getting the chance to play up front with Dele? play off final springs to mind... plus plenty of other times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Cant remember Trundle ever getting the chance to play up front with Dele? The play-off final.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 GJ Trundle, hopefully they'll offer you a deal to stay perma in Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 play off final springs to mind... plus plenty of other times Thats once, Maynard was Dele's partner all last season. Play off semi may be another one, of course he got the winner that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Ah yes, but you can remember us playing football under Pulis!! I thought MY memory was going, but I'm feeling encouraged now............ I dont know about you remembering your memory but you obviously dont know what Irony is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Thats once, Maynard was Dele's partner all last season. Play off semi may be another one, of course he got the winner that day. He partnered Dele on at least ten occasions, that's not once, or twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Best player at City for years That's possibly my favourite post ever on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 He partnered Dele on at least ten occasions, that's not once, or twice. I think you'll find PB was being ironic again, he just can't help himself you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 He partnered Dele on at least ten occasions, that's not once, or twice. Thanks for that, thats the answer to the question i asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Trundle does affect games if you play to his strengths. We didn't play to his strengths. And it's got nothing to do with age or speed. Hartley is a similar age and has no speed and yet he must be the best midfielder in the Championship. How he is not in the Premier League is beyond me and how we managed to sign him (thank god) is beyond me. Best player at City for years Missed this post! haha! you MUST be joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think you'll find PB was being ironic again, he just can't help himself you know. I cant actually some of you take this forum far to seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 play off final springs to mind... plus plenty of other times Plenty of other times my arse. Trundle started alongside Adebola about half a dozen times at the end of the 07/08 season and in those games were some of the best team performances we've had under Johnson. The only other times Trundle played well aside from two spectacular goals against Scunny were the handful of times we started him alongside Showunmi. He started alongside Sproule and Byfield most frequently. It's not really that hard to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Plenty of other times my arse. Trundle started alongside Adebola about half a dozen times at the end of the 07/08 season and in those games were some of the best team performances we've had under Johnson. The only other times Trundle played well aside from two spectacular goals against Scunny were the handful of times we started him alongside Showunmi. He started alongside Sproule and Byfield most frequently. It's not really that hard to figure out. Thats the answer that i thought was right, thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nibor's post serves to emphasise that Trundle clearly did not get sufficient extended runs alongside the type of strike partner he had thrived with elsewhere. It's a complete mystery why GJ signed Trundle, and knowing his strengths ( and no doubt his weaknesses) proceeded to utilise him the way he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 He started another 4 the folllowing season, too. So it wasn't the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 He started another 4 the folllowing season, too. So it wasn't the right answer. We won two and drew two of those four, then he got dropped to the bench and we conceded four against Reading and it looked like being a cricket score until we brought Trundle on and he changed the game. Fact is, Trundle is good enough at this level if you use him properly and in the two and a half seasons we've had him we have not managed to start him as a second striker with any regularity - instead expecting him to be a target man most of the time which any idiot knows is futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I really can't be arsed to read the whole thread, but I did have a wry smile on my face at the pub earlier when Trundle's name came up twice. He's been at Swansea since end of Sept I guess? He's started, or played in 7 games. That's all I need to know. He's not fit enough at this level, ok, he's scored 4 goals - but 2 have come in 10 mins today. I turned to my fellow City fan today and said, 'I hope that's enough for Swansea to want to take him on in Jan' - and he agreed. Nothing against Trunds, think he's a top bloke, and a great player on his day, but it's not worked for him here. Time to move on, and for Trunds to go back to his one true love. If he does stay though, I wouldn't be adverse to giving him a few games on the left. We're not going up, we're not going down - why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 We won two and drew two of those four, then he got dropped to the bench and we conceded four against Reading and it looked like being a cricket score until we brought Trundle on and he changed the game. Fact is, Trundle is good enough at this level if you use him properly and in the two and a half seasons we've had him we have not managed to start him as a second striker with any regularity - instead expecting him to be a target man most of the time which any idiot knows is futile. How did Byfield get his 8 goals in the first half of his season with us?? How did Maynard get all of his goals this season when playing alongside Haynes??? No target man = excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nibor's post serves to emphasise that Trundle clearly did not get sufficient extended runs alongside the type of strike partner he had thrived with elsewhere. It's a complete mystery why GJ signed Trundle, and knowing his strengths ( and no doubt his weaknesses) proceeded to utilise him the way he did. It would be like signing a central midfielder and playing him on the left, or buying a winger and playing him as a striker when you have two international strikers sitting on the bench. Cant see those sort of things happening though :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 How did Byfield get his 8 goals in the first half of his season with us?? How did Maynard get all of his goals this season when playing alongside Haynes??? No target man = excuse Excuses? No, simply recognising cause and effect. Excuses are what you're making on the manager's behalf for the shite we watched again today. Trundle isn't a great player, I was one of the few who didn't want us to sign him, but what he is is a flair player who needs ball to feet facing goal - that's so obvious I'm surprised anybody needs it explaining. We did not use him appropriately and surprise surprise he didn't do well here. Shock horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Excuses? No, simply recognising cause and effect. Excuses are what you're making on the manager's behalf for the shite we watched again today. Trundle isn't a great player, I was one of the few who didn't want us to sign him, but what he is is a flair player who needs ball to feet facing goal - that's so obvious I'm surprised anybody needs it explaining. We did not use him appropriately and surprise surprise he didn't do well here. Shock horror. We did use him appropriately. We stuck him up front! The ONLY time he looked good enough was the play-offs - That was the only time he looked 100% fit and motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 We won two and drew two of those four, then he got dropped to the bench and we conceded four against Reading and it looked like being a cricket score until we brought Trundle on and he changed the game. Fact is, Trundle is good enough at this level if you use him properly and in the two and a half seasons we've had him we have not managed to start him as a second striker with any regularity - instead expecting him to be a target man most of the time which any idiot knows is futile. Thanks for providing a few FACTS which put this Trundle argument into some sort of perspective, rather than just whether individuals like Trundle or not. You can only continue to wonder why Trundle was discarded after those 4 unbeaten games, something alot of us would have been mystified about at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 We did use him appropriately. We stuck him up front! The ONLY time he looked good enough was the play-offs - That was the only time he looked 100% fit and motivated. Riaz, you're talking shite. You know very well that if Trundle wasn't fit he wouldn't have been picked, and I know he was actually one of the better performers in the fitness tests during the first season. He didn't play well often but all his good performances bar one came when playing alongside Adebola or Showunmi and the reason for that isn't motivation or fitness it is a very simple and obvious football reason. Lee Trundle isn't a targetman. We played as though he was. If you didn't notice that from watching the games there isn't much point having this debate with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 He's been at Swansea since end of Sept I guess? He's started, or played in 7 games. That's all I need to know. He's not fit enough at this level, ok, he's scored 4 goals - but 2 have come in 10 mins today. I turned to my fellow City fan today and said, 'I hope that's enough for Swansea to want to take him on in Jan' - and he agreed. Nothing against Trunds, think he's a top bloke, and a great player on his day, but it's not worked for him here. Time to move on, and for Trunds to go back to his one true love. If he does stay though, I wouldn't be adverse to giving him a few games on the left. We're not going up, we're not going down - why not? Perhaps he's resettled there now and is coming into form. What if he scores another couple next week, and a couple more before the end of the month? 8 goals in maybe 11/12 games, it's not impossible - what would City fans think then? It certainly wouldn't provide ammunition for those that say Trundle's not up to the Championship, more likely perhaps prove that utilised correctly he is, and that City persistently failed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrizzle Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Surely that was Adebola? Trundle had numerous opportunities with him, was also paired with every sort of striker under the sun and rarely delivered for us. Can you name one game that Trundle started with Adebola because, even though that should have been the obvious partnership, I can't think of one time it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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