Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 And quick. Two midfielders in skis and Elliot together is not the way to progress this club. We missed hartley pulling the strings today. Marv and cole were either to close together or two far apart during the match today and millwall just ran through them. A striker is impreative in the short term but a creative midfielder is even more important and super fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackerz005 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 that we do, todays game was crying out for Paul Hartley. Marv and Skuse both looked clueless when aproaching the edge of the area and offen passed it back and fourth. I thought JCR played pretty well considering there wasnt many options for a pass and was baffled when he was taken off. Neither Ivan or Adomah had the quality to unlock the deffence and Clarkson isnt an out and out stiker. Gavin Williams anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlBCFC Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Gavin Williams is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 anyone got Robert Korens number?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 we have had 2 quality creative midfielders over the last 4 seasons, but both have been/were treated like crap...David Noble and Gavin Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 And quick. Two midfielders in skis and Elliot together is not the way to progress this club. We missed hartley pulling the strings today. Marv and cole were either to close together or two far apart during the match today and millwall just ran through them. A striker is impreative in the short term but a creative midfielder is even more important and super fast. Couldn't agree more. We lacked vision and craft in the middle today and need someone to fill the hole Hartley has left. Another thing I think we were lacking is leadership on the pitch. Without Orr, Hartley and Carey we looked ruderless out there today - we need to bring in an experienced player in the middle of the park to pull the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Nobel could be class on his day, just enjoyed the drink to much. Undecided on Williams, he's not a left midfielder that's for sure. I don't think we have an answer currently at the club. If I was coppell I would be on the phone a lot this coming week trying to plug this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 WE NEED TO SPEND SOME MONEY AND GET SOME QUALITY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Couldn't agree more. We lacked vision and craft in the middle today and need someone to fill the hole Hartley has left. Another thing I think we were lacking is leadership on the pitch. Without Orr, Hartley and Carey we looked ruderless out there today - we need to bring in an experienced player in the middle of the park to pull the strings. Agreed. Cole is a great player, but not ready yet to lead the team on the pitch. If he is to carry on then he needs to grow a set of lungs and he needs to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonwheeler Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Now call me old fashioned and yes I realise that he left because his good lady preferred haggis to Clarks pies but I thought we had such a player in Harts, so why didnt we just try a tad harder to keep him???? But the real gist of my thread is just HOW LONG is SL going to be prepared to bank roll SC's spending??? Even when you have as much wonga as SL undoubtably has, there has to come a time when the cheque book is put firmly back in the safe and after watching that today "if" I was SL sitting now in his chez-lounge in Guernsey the thought would certainly be going through my mind like "Just how MUCH more of my kids inheritance am I going to flush round the 'U' bend to follow what I have already lost???" It might just be that "if" Coppello is thinking of asking for a little more pocket money early next week he just may have a nasty surprise.................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 He's not gonna walk away after one game. There will be money to spend still. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Now call me old fashioned and yes I realise that he left because his good lady preferred haggis to Clarks pies but I thought we had such a player in Harts, so why didnt we just try a tad harder to keep him???? But the real gist of my thread is just HOW LONG is SL going to be prepared to bank roll SC's spending??? Even when you have as much wonga as SL undoubtably has, there has to come a time when the cheque book is put firmly back in the safe and after watching that today "if" I was SL sitting now in his chez-lounge in Guernsey the thought would certainly be going through my mind like "Just how MUCH more of my kids inheritance am I going to flush round the 'U' bend to follow what I have already lost???" It might just be that "if" Coppello is thinking of asking for a little more pocket money early next week he just may have a nasty surprise.................................... You what?? Steve coppell has spent **** ALL. Look at Warnock etc they spend proper money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Given that the tactics today from the off were to hoof long balls towards Clarkson such a player would have been wasted. As soon as JCR started to look creative he was hauled off. Today was same product with different branding. An awful long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderBCFC10 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Noble was a fantastic player and Gav gets treated like crap, i agree with most of the comments made. We have to spend money on a experienced attacking midfielder that can break down defences so we get GOALS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 We actually need 2 creative midfielders because the first one will probably get injured after 10 mins.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Noble was a fantastic player and Gav gets treated like crap, i agree with most of the comments made. We have to spend money on a experienced attacking midfielder that can break down defences so we get GOALS!!! Agreed, we can have the best strikers in the world but if there not getting any service then it's pointless having them, and you can't expect the wingers to be skining the midfielders and the full backs all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Spot on Wilksi. The reason we were so poor today is ALL our midfielders were totally over run. Millwall sussed us out, and their midfield totally bossed the game. The defence was subsequently regularly over run, and our admittedly poor strikers were made worse by an utter lack of decent ball forward. all we seemed to do is hoof it up almost every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 have to agree, I dont think we have anyone who I would trust to take a set piece. We may as well give Gavin williams a game, so then at least we know if he is up to it or not. The person I feel sorry for is Mr Lansdown, he has backed his man yet again, the game was sold out, and the players serve up that. When you invest what he has to get Coppell here, and the england keeper, you have the right to expect better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 have to agree, I dont think we have anyone who I would trust to take a set piece. We may as well give Gavin williams a game, so then at least we know if he is up to it or not. The person I feel sorry for is Mr Lansdown, he has backed his man yet again, the game was sold out, and the players serve up that. When you invest what he has to get Coppell here, and the england keeper, you have the right to expect better. I think your right, think Williams has the right to at least be given a chance to show what he's got. I do think we need another one though. Lansdown knows what he is doing as does coppel. It took coppel 5 years to get palarse up and 3 for reading. It's not going to happen over night, I just think he needs to address this issue sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hartley's pinpoint ball distribution was certainly sorely missed out there. Sproule didn't have a good game (MOTM???!!!!!) but he did try a few runs off the ball without anyone trying to find him - an experienced midfield general like Hartley would've picked him out I'm sure. I was a little disappointed in the way the club apparently didn't try to entice Paul to stay, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonwheeler Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 You what?? Steve coppell has spent **** ALL. Look at Warnock etc they spend proper money. Sorry my mistake??? Obviously David James, Nicky Hunt, Damien Stewart, Albert Adomoah, Sam Vokes have come here as part of an OXFAM refugee charity package.................. Really must have missed that news release. Offering their services at no on cost to Bristol City Football Club is a fantastic example of humanitarian goodwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 And quick. Two midfielders in skis and Elliot together is not the way to progress this club. We missed hartley pulling the strings today. Marv and cole were either to close together or two far apart during the match today and millwall just ran through them. A striker is impreative in the short term but a creative midfielder is even more important and super fast. Was it not you expecting an attacking midfielder to sign yesteday on your cluedo thread? Was their actually some substance to your "koren" info or was it all part of the chase? I hope there was as he could be the missing link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brislingwood Red Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Noble could bathe in vodka for all I care, as long as we win and he does a decent hours stint playing the role of puppeteer!! Nobel could be class on his day, just enjoyed the drink to much. Undecided on Williams, he's not a left midfielder that's for sure. I don't think we have an answer currently at the club. If I was coppell I would be on the phone a lot this coming week trying to plug this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Sorry my mistake??? Obviously David James, Nicky Hunt, Damien Stewart, Albert Adomoah, Sam Vokes have come here as part of an OXFAM refugee charity package.................. Really must have missed that news release. Offering their services at no on cost to Bristol City Football Club is a fantastic example of humanitarian goodwill Free, Free, PAYED US, 300,000?, Loan So yes, Spent a fortune hasn't he.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Was it not you expecting an attacking midfielder to sign yesteday on your cluedo thread? Was their actually some substance to your "koren" info or was it all part of the chase? I hope there was as he could be the missing link I think you need to re-read that thread then cus I never said that. I said a loan would be signing. Someone else said about koren. But I agree he could be the missing link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I think you need to re-read that thread then cus I never said that. I said a loan would be signing. Someone else said about koren. But I agree he could be the missing link. My bad, I couldn't be arsed reading 2/3 pages or w.e it was He has been spoken about several times since it was announced WBA had released him, I heard he was in talks with some low end premierleage teams earlier in the summer but havn't heard anything since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Free, Free, PAYED US, 300,000?, Loan So yes, Spent a fortune hasn't he.... I think his point was that these players are mostly on high wages. Bar possibly Albert. James to be fair was all lansdown idea and doing so should be out of that argument, also Albert was lined up to come here under the previous regime so shouldn't really be counted either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 My bad, I couldn't be arsed reading 2/3 pages or w.e it was He has been spoken about several times since it was announced WBA had released him, I heard he was in talks with some low end premierleage teams earlier in the summer but havn't heard anything since... The issue would always be wages though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 The issue would always be wages though. Same issue with any proven player at this level though... As he is a free agent we could possibly tempt him with a reasonable signing on fee with the agreement of a lower wage packet (which i would assume is similar to the deal put to DJ?!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Same issue with any proven player at this level though... As he is a free agent we could possibly tempt him with a reasonable signing on fee with the agreement of a lower wage packet (which i would assume is similar to the deal put to DJ?!!) That could well be an option. Who else is out there and available at the moment? Has anyone seen what these Irish lads are like?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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