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:source: What a tease!

And surely not "Colin"! :fingerscrossed::whistle2:

Is mickey bell still in charge at Clevedon?

I won't believe any of those sort of rumours until they happen, don't want to call you a lier but track record of people in the know isn't that great around here,

anyway losing I can take not competeing I can not which is why theres been a angry reaction this time around

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Ive heard on good grounds that if he doesnt win 3 out of 5- Hes History Channel.

With a replacement already lined up but is in contract at another club.. (may not be for long hey)

So this replacement will cost how much?.. will want how much in terms of available funds to bring in players that the current manager already knows he requires but aint allowed to get?

Will inherit a load of surplus to requirement players who wont just walk away & noone else wants.

Could be a bargain if he has a magic wand -if not how are things gonna improve?.... & who says given the funds that Millen couldnt pull a rabbit out of the hat too?

Cost or replacing Millen and paying off his contract , recruiting a replacement (with I presume compo payments to current club) & providing transfer market funds would add up to quite a lot of dosh.... if its available for that -why isnt it available to buy us what we really need right now SOME GOOD PLAYERS IN OUR DEFENCE??

Whoevers in charge the millstone round our neck of unwanted players & wage bills will remain anyway til next year.

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Think your better off sending that in an email to Mr.Lansdown mate, Don't jump on my back for posting what i've been told..

But then again, you probably know best..

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Think your better off sending that in an email to Mr.Lansdown mate, Don't jump on my back for posting what i've been told..

But then again, you probably know best..

..not knocking you mate, its the club that needs sorting out, if their plans are as described then money cant be the issue is all I'm saying, & it'll cost more to implement than giving the current manager the funds he needs to sort this mess out...

Next year, when the rubbish has been swept away things might look a darn sight better, just cant see any new broom being able to do much right now unless cash is available for new players - & thats something the present management could with, then we can progress.

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It's not the fact that we have lost the first 2 games that is the problem but the manner in which we have lost them, woeful at the back still, we are in exactly the same position as we were 12 months ago but luckily the excellent Caulker came on board and carried the rest of the defence single handedly and i put all the credit down to him for even keeping us in the division last year, amazingly we have been stuck with the same paceless left-back for 4 yrs with still no sign of a replacement, one of the worst right-backs i can ever remember in NH, a Centre Half in DS who would struggle in the 4th division, the other defenders seem to be either to inconsistent or injury prone (i excuse the promising Wilson from any criticism) all of this while Millen has been either the manager or defensive coach, i thought appointing him was a poor decision and nothing i have seen in his year in charge has changed my opinion, the decent games at AG last season were far outweighed by the poor ones, with the embarrassing and pathetic displays against Watford, Sheff Weds and Swansea springing to mind. He should be sacked today and bring someone in who can rejuvinate the team and fans alike and so end the doom and gloom we are already in at such an early part of the season.

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I think everyone needs to calm down its only two games in!! i think after 7/8 games if we are still pretty much bottom then KM needs the boot but not after 2 games, also after 7/8 games theres still time for the new gaffer to turn it round.

As for his transfer activity i think he has been pretty decent bringing in pitman/stead/caulker last season and even spence is decent, cant say the same for woolford though as i think hes pants! i must say though i cant understand why he hasent bought more bodies into defence its clear we are failng in that area or maybe James cant organise them very well which is why i personaly think we should give Deano a run in the team to see how he does.

anyone who went to the cardiff game will tell that 1st half we were a disaster but 2nd half we passed it better didnt panic as much and eventually scored, if we play like that againest Svens men in the week for 90 mins im sure we can grab 3 points!

Up the city!!! (this is my 1st post, looks like ppl on this website have decent views aswell!)

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I think everyone needs to calm down its only two games in!! i think after 7/8 games if we are still pretty much bottom then KM needs the boot but not after 2 games, also after 7/8 games theres still time for the new gaffer to turn it round.

As for his transfer activity i think he has been pretty decent bringing in pitman/stead/caulker last season and even spence is decent, cant say the same for woolford though as i think hes pants! i must say though i cant understand why he hasent bought more bodies into defence its clear we are failng in that area or maybe James cant organise them very well which is why i personaly think we should give Deano a run in the team to see how he does.

anyone who went to the cardiff game will tell that 1st half we were a disaster but 2nd half we passed it better didnt panic as much and eventually scored, if we play like that againest Svens men in the week for 90 mins im sure we can grab 3 points!

Up the city!!! (this is my 1st post, looks like ppl on this website have decent views aswell!)

think that was more to do with cardiff having the game won then us improving, they seemed to be able to cut us apart at will which was worrying,

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Millen has to go, should have gone when GJ left, too long he has been a part of the problem (defensive coach ffs) not part of the solution.

And never mind only 2 games into this season, he had almost all last season and the close season, only to see us under performing in pre-season against lower league times and arriving unprepared for the real thing - just like under copout.

Too many bizarre team selection errors, like not starting Kilkenny, sticking Pitman left wing, prefering the ineffective Skuse to the reliable Cisse & even the continued cold shoulder of Hunt (who was one solid performer in pre-season by all accounts).

Enough is enough, let's do a Norwich act decisively like they did after a cr@p start two seasons ago, dismiss Millen and start moving forward again!

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Millen has to go, should have gone when GJ left, too long he has been a part of the problem (defensive coach ffs) not part of the solution.

And never mind only 2 games into this season, he had almost all last season and the close season, only to see us under performing in pre-season against lower league times and arriving unprepared for the real thing - just like under copout.

Too many bizarre team selection errors, like not starting Kilkenny, sticking Pitman left wing, prefering the ineffective Skuse to the reliable Cisse & even the continued cold shoulder of Hunt (who was one solid performer in pre-season by all accounts).

Enough is enough, let's do a Norwich act decisively like they did after a cr@p start two seasons ago, dismiss Millen and start moving forward again!

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I WOULD GO EVEN FURTHER AND SAY MILLEN AND DAVID JAMES OUT AND DAVE JONES IN NOW BEFORE WE ARE CUT ADRIFT AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS LEAGUE WHICH IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKELY

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I WOULD GO EVEN FURTHER AND SAY MILLEN AND DAVID JAMES OUT AND DAVE JONES IN NOW BEFORE WE ARE CUT ADRIFT AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS LEAGUE WHICH IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKELY

That would be clever - who the fudge would play in goal!!

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The person lined up is Dave Jones. No need to speculate about anyone else or hope for anyone else. KM WILL be gone in 2 games and DJ will be announced shortly after.

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Millen is taking a lot of stick, but i feel the players have to take more responsibility. If they are not tracking back and/or making individual errors, that is the players fault not the managers.

I agree with you, and it was much the same with the last minute issue in 2009/10, but the longer it goes on without being addressed (cause and effect) the more Millen becomes culpable.

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The person lined up is Dave Jones. No need to speculate about anyone else or hope for anyone else. KM WILL be gone in 2 games and DJ will be announced shortly after.

What if we win the next two?

And didn't the original poster state the person in question was employed?

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Ooooh goodie, let's have a battle of the sources.

Everyone who thinks they're "in the know" or even just likes to pretend they are, sign up here.

This is no battle. I saw something I know to be untrue and contradicted it, whether you choose to believe it is your own choice and no issue of mine.

I'm surprised that of all posts on here today you felt the need to post such a pathetic response to that, Nibor.

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This is no battle. I saw something I know to be untrue and contradicted it, whether you choose to believe it is your own choice and no issue of mine.

I'm surprised that of all posts on here today you felt the need to post such a pathetic response to that, Nibor.

Still rather highly strung Ron? I'd suggest you get on the phone to your source and put this to bed once and for all.

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Still rather highly strung Ron? I'd suggest you get on the phone to your source and put this to bed once and for all.

Moreso because of few quality posters remaining you are lowering yourself to childish tactics than anything.

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Moreso because of few quality posters remaining you are lowering yourself to childish tactics than anything.

Take the hint Ron. You've got forum diarrhoea at the moment and the one upmanship is mind blowingly tedious.. Go sniff through Dolly's pants drawer or something.

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Ronnabe I have in the known things about the players and the club which as come straight from the horses mouth but I don't feel the need to post such information on this site I just bite my lip and post my opinions instead of putting people in differcult circumstances and betraying people trust.

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Millen has to go, should have gone when GJ left, too long he has been a part of the problem (defensive coach ffs) not part of the solution.

And never mind only 2 games into this season, he had almost all last season and the close season, only to see us under performing in pre-season against lower league times and arriving unprepared for the real thing - just like under copout.

Too many bizarre team selection errors, like not starting Kilkenny, sticking Pitman left wing, prefering the ineffective Skuse to the reliable Cisse & even the continued cold shoulder of Hunt (who was one solid performer in pre-season by all accounts).

Enough is enough, let's do a Norwich act decisively like they did after a cr@p start two seasons ago, dismiss Millen and start moving forward again!

the one reason i didn't renew my ST this year. millen is a useless ****

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Take the hint Ron. You've got forum diarrhoea at the moment and the one upmanship is mind blowingly tedious.. Go sniff through Dolly's pants drawer or something.

Not funny, and neither is it one-upmanship. I take the manner of some of the criticism of the club/staff perhaps too personally, sure.

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Looking at what you said about Dave Jones coming to the club, your contact must be CS or SL because if there was a plan to change manager it would only be those two who would make such a decision.

My contact is not one of those two but someone very close to these two!

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Looking at what you said about Dave Jones coming to the club, your contact must be CS or SL because if there was a plan to change manager it would only be those two who would make such a decision.

You don't need to know them to get a sniff of what's going on or isn't. I've never said anything on here that betrayed anyone's trust, that stuff I kept to myself.

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God I hope we don't sign this nearly man manager. He spends and wastes money like confetti, he should have done a lot better with the likes of wolves and Cardiff, and bottled it almost every season. The actual season he got wolves up he scraped them through the playoffs when with the money spent they should of walked it. If Millen is removed for Jones I will not return to Ashton gate. If they can afford to pay up the managers and possibly his staff contracts then they can find some cash for a defender. If this turns out to be true then bristol city football club can go whistle for my hard earned cash.

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You don't need to know them to get a sniff of what's going on or isn't. I've never said anything on here that betrayed anyone's trust, that stuff I kept to myself.

Fair play Ronnabe that you for the what you said about not dropping people in it.

But if there are making or thinking of making a change only SL and CS would be privy to it at an early stage so with respect having a sniff of what is going on don't give you the full facts.

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My contact is not one of those two but someone very close to these two!

Not that I don't believe you, I have no reason not to, but just to clarify the situation;

If we win the next two games 4-0 Keith Millen will be sacked and Dave Jones will be appointed?

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Fair play Ronnabe that you for the what you said about not dropping people in it.

But if there are making or thinking of making a change only SL and CS would be privy to it at an early stage so with respect having a sniff of what is going on don't give you the full facts.

That's true of course, Millen could be (God forbid) replaced by Jones at some point. But knowing the timescale Keiran said, the past dealings of our board (of which Sexstone has been a member for years) and having some feeling of the vibe within the club, im happy to stick my neck on the line with confidence.

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One of the issues is of course the lack of outstanding candidates unless we spend, which of course seems unlikely. Whilst this is by no means the best reason for keeping the current manager it is something to keep in mind and Millen should have at least a bit of time to repair the situatuion. We had one win in ten last year remember. It is of course hugely disturbing and the lack of fight showed yesterday was simply not acceptable. I'm only 19 but have never felt so disillusioned with the Club in the whole time I have followed City. From top to bottom there seems to be a sense of despair and as a bunch of players I certainly seem more disconnected from them than any other group in my lifetime.

We're of course still just two games into the season and shouldn't get carried away but obviously if the losses continue we will have to do something. Although with no money to spend even if we did bring someone in they may struggle to get much out of our squad...

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God I hope we don't sign this nearly man manager. He spends and wastes money like confetti, he should have done a lot better with the likes of wolves and Cardiff, and bottled it almost every season. The actual season he got wolves up he scraped them through the playoffs when with the money spent they should of walked it. If Millen is removed for Jones I will not return to Ashton gate. If they can afford to pay up the managers and possibly his staff contracts then they can find some cash for a defender. If this turns out to be true then bristol city football club can go whistle for my hard earned cash.

Depends on expectations though, surely? The question perhaps should be 'Could Jones keep us up?' I think yes- not that Millen should necessarily go after a mere 2 games.

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Pretty sure at Cardiff at first he had a fairly modest budget

Pretty sure he didn't. Their accounts are available online if you want to check, but their wage bill was astronomical throughout his tenure as I recall, even when they were nearly bust.

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If we are going down the line of managers who've achieved something on small budgets, the only two I would suggest are Graham Westley and Martin Allen. Im not adding any fuel to the fire, should Keith go at any point, Allen would be my choice.

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My contact is not one of those two but someone very close to these two!

Haha ok so we've made an approach for Dave Jones even though Kieth is still in charge and he will be the manager after two more games regardless of the results.

All this despite the fact the seasons only two games old? Brilliant! You couldn't make it up, or perhaps you could tumbleweed.gif

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I am not even sure if he is looking to get back into football with his academy setup, but if Millen is to be replaced (and I hope he isn't) then hoddle could be a good appointment, no money to pay out, a pretty good record at club management, not bad as England manager and he may be able to attract players. Depends if he is forgiven for his opinions.

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Sure they would be happy and forgiving if he took city to the promised land. After all everyone should get 1 second chance. I am sure your opinions my opinions everyone's opinions will get some demographics back up. Doesn't mean he cannot do a good job. It would seem keeping Millen will upset even more people than the number of disabled supporters we have. You will always upset someone. Name me any manager Mr Tansley and I am sure you will find an area of our support that won't like him. Doesn't mean they can't do the job

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He got those opinions from his faith. If they are right or wrong who knows? I disagree as I don't believe in god. But it could be proved I am the idiot when I die and find out there is a god. So what makes him a moron for beliving it? He probably is wrong, but there is a chance he is correct, no matter hoe much you and I disagree with what he says.

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TRL is onto something. I know various Christian folk who believe we should all die for our sins, especially me as I am a non-believer. If any of them had some footballing pedigree and were put in the England job no one would bat an eyelid. That's not to excuse Hoddles comments one jot, just you can't have one rule for one apparently ridiculous view and another for something equally as... Unreasonable?

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but if they started coming out and preaching their bile they would receive the same treatment as Hoddle.

If you are in a position of importance like a professional football manager you do not spout crap (religious or otherwise) and expect to remain in that position or expect to keep your reputation in tact.

Perhaps so, perhaps not, some equally fascist views are treated very differently.

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If we are going down the line of managers who've achieved something on small budgets, the only two I would suggest are Graham Westley and Martin Allen. Im not adding any fuel to the fire, should Keith go at any point, Allen would be my choice.

Paul Tisdale and Sean O' Driscoll?! Not only have they done very well on small budgets but they have done it playing very attractive football. They have both proved to have a great eye for talent at little cost and have done tremendously. (Again, I'm not saying get any of them i wouldn't sack Millen but on the subject of managers who have achieved a lot on a small budget these two certainly stand out.)

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Again, crap in your opinion, there would be hundreds of thousands that would agree with him. So I guess you pick and choose who you alienate. I think hoddle can be classed as niave in responding in that way to a question. But what difference someone who believes this and speaks publically and those who are quiet morally? Because this would seem to be your argument. And I still can't see the relevance of your Hitler argument

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Paul Tisdale and Sean O' Driscoll?! Not only have they done very well on small budgets but they have done it playing very attractive football. They have both proved to have a great eye for talent at little cost and have done tremendously. (Again, I'm not saying get any of them i wouldn't sack Millen but on the subject of managers who have achieved a lot on a small budget these two certainly stand out.)

Shaun O'Driscoll's achievements have been exaggerated a lot, Tisdale is a top shout though.

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Sod had a good season, and plays pretty football. But I never thought him particularly as a standout manager. Tisdale, now he does seem a good manager to me. Very successful and from what I hear has some very forward thinking ideas. Unfortunately not enough of a named manager for much of the city faithful

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Shaun O'Driscoll's achievements have been exaggerated a lot, Tisdale is a top shout though.

Exaggerated? I disagree. If you look at what he's done there, the squad he's built considering the money he's spent, all whilst playing a great passing game, he has to be applauded. Sure they were near the bottom last year and it's going to be tough but they cannot spend huge amounts so buy wisely. Acquire good lower league talent and players other clubs have wasted in wrong positions. He's done an exemplary job in my opinion.

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I am not even sure if he is looking to get back into football with his academy setup, but if Millen is to be replaced (and I hope he isn't) then hoddle could be a good appointment, no money to pay out, a pretty good record at club management, not bad as England manager and he may be able to attract players. Depends if he is forgiven for his opinions.

Good record? Remind me of his acheivememts as a manager.

Seem enough with England to know he is also clueless

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Good record? Remind me of his acheivememts as a manager.

Seem enough with England to know he is also clueless

he was a good manager but has been out of management far to long now to even get a look in,

I don't like him as a person for what he said about the disabled but then again people have said worst in the past

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