Robbored Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 To Brentford for a month. Bitter/sweet. Bitter because I rate him as a third striker. Sweet because he's off the pay roll for a month and getting some football.
Nibor Posted September 15, 2011 Author Posted September 15, 2011 All sweet for me, because I didn't. I'm hoping it gets extended because one month off the payroll won't help bring anyone in.
BCFC Jordan Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Underrated in the manner that he was NOWHERE near as bad as people made out. However he is behind Pitman, Maynard, Stead and probably Taylor, so the move makes sense. Good luck to him.
pride of the west Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 i cant imagine brentford paying anymore than £10k for the duration of the month loan. we need alot more than a £10k saving to bring in the quality we need.
Riaz Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 He always seemed to score and never got a pro-longed run in the team. He can feel hard done by IMO. Good that we are getting rid of a striker though
mcbcfc Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Nice touches, bit too slow needs pace around him
Monkeh Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 don't rate him like alot of our players LEague one is his level
Alex#40 Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 He will get a hat full playing at that level. Good luck David.
glynriley Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 i cant imagine brentford paying anymore than £10k for the duration of the month loan. we need alot more than a £10k saving to bring in the quality we need. I doubt it's anywhere near £10K TBH. More like £4K I would say. But any money saved is a positive , and it will help pay for our stars of the future The face palm is not aimed at you BTW PotW
pride of the west Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I doubt it's anywhere near £10K TBH. More like £4K I would say. But any money saved is a positive , and it will help pay for our stars of the future The face palm is not aimed at you BTW PotW understood re face palm. yeah your probably right about 1k a week. the point is that we cant get too excited over one loan move out as it equates to nothing in the grand scheme of things. we need 5 of the highest earners out on loan for it to basically save us the money to bring 1 good prem youngster, alas spence in.
Slave to the rhythm Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 He will score for fun in League 1 I bet he doesn't. What exactly does he offer? No pace, no guile, no "presence"!
Guest Brislingwood Red Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I bet he doesn't. What exactly does he offer? No pace, no guile, no "presence"! But can finish, if given the opportunity?
WellRedPhil Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I bet he doesn't. What exactly does he offer? No pace, no guile, no "presence"! He's excellent in space and is much more effective in the hole or as a midfielder in a 4-3-3 in my opinion. He ran the show in our 4-0 win at Deepdale last season and as he had lots of space in that game was able to dictate play, spraying balls around. He's very weak and slow though so if he's up front unless you can give him the ball when he's in a lot of space, which we evidently don't have the quality to do, he is pointless. Makes sense him going out on loan as he's clearly not in Millen's plans.
GrahamC Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Pretty obvious who the players who've refused to go out on loan are now, isn't it?
City Loyal Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Really hope he goes there and smashes it up!
BCFC Jordan Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Pretty obvious who the players who've refused to go out on loan are now, isn't it? Ribeiro, Hunt and Stewart?
Robbored Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I bet he doesn't. What exactly does he offer? No pace, no guile, no "presence"! If he has a problem it will be that he's too clever a player for Div 1 level. His team mates might not be able to anticipate what he's going to do.
Monkeh Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Ribeiro, Hunt and Stewart? Carey, Stead, Cisse?
City Loyal Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Carey, Stead, Cisse? Why on earth would we want to send Stead on loan?
southvillekiddy Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Agree with Well Red Phil : "He's excellent in space and is much more effective in the hole or as a midfielder in a 4-3-3 in my opinion. He ran the show in our 4-0 win at Deepdale last season and as he had lots of space in that game was able to dictate play, spraying balls around. He's very weak and slow though so if he's up front unless you can give him the ball when he's in a lot of space, which we evidently don't have the quality to do, he is pointless. Makes sense him going out on loan as he's clearly not in Millen's plans." With a lot of work done on upper body strength he would be good in the Championship. Too easily pushed off the ball as striker. Skilfull player. Why hasn't he been tried in midfield if we can't attract a creative midfielder from elsewhere It worked when he played in the hole.
Alex_BCFC Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Not good enough and had to go out on loan. I rate him higher than Taylor but that isn't seeing much I don't think.
Keith_Lemon Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Probably one of the worse forwards City have ever had. Can you even class him as a striker? Has no pace, strength no nothing. I'll be surprised if he even gets 1 goal during his month spell there.
Robbored Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 What a situation to get yourself in mind a player we paid I think 800 k for now were probably paying 75% of his wages to play for a lower leauge team, brilliant simply brilliant Who signed him?
Monkeh Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Who signed him? the same man who sign most of our current first team
Monkeh Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Why on earth would we want to send Stead on loan? I'm not its just 3 random names based on no back up
Guest cockneyrobin Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 He was never an out and out striker. When he played behind the front two last year, he chipped in with a few goals and assists. Far worse players in our squad than Clarky IMO Good luck to him.
Robbored Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 the same man who sign most of our current first team And that would be? I can never remember who signed who..........
BITW Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 A neat footballer lacking pace always made him dependent of a footballing side. Could still do a job as offensive central midfielder. All the best Clarky. Not so long ago you described him as a 'dead fish'. Now he's a neat player? What changed?
BITW Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Lacking pace you are very much a dead fish among non-footballers Fair enough. He is extremely slow.
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 And that would be? I can never remember who signed who.......... The same person who signed Maynard even though the forum online managers claimed the fee was far too much, the same person who signed Fontaine a player we were recently offered 1 miil for, the same person who signed Nyatanga who is suddenly finding his young feet, the same person who signed Elliott a mainstay and probably the only goal threat in our midfield and the same person who signed JCR a player who has been roundly criticised especially by you before he became Millens left sided saviour after the failure of his own left sided signing.
BITW Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I'm sorry for having called players "dead fish". Really poor and you all have my apology. Pub banter is not for a discussion forum. No need to apologize. Just thought there was a significant difference between a dead fish and a neat player, and so I wondered what changed your opinion of him. Roll on the banter BCS
Guest always hoping Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Pretty obvious who the players who've refused to go out on loan are now, isn't it? Not so obvious is the player who had a request for loan turned down by the City?
glynriley Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Not so obvious is the player who had a request for loan turned down by the City? Where have you heard that buddy??
dafarms Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I hope Clarkey goes there, and does brilliant, and that goes for any of our players who go out on loan. This will hopefully mean the loan club and the player want to make it permenant. The other factor could be the other club cannot aford the player but he comes back full of confidense, and does the business for us if called upon.
Pederho ll Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Clarkson is vastly under rated in my opinion. I sincerely hopes he scores a few goals, which l have no doubt he will.
REDOXO Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Clarkson was always best playing behind a front one/two...What Gary Johnson always thought of as a luxury position. Good Luck to the boy, I suspect a trip back to Scotland is in his medium term future
Garland-sweden Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Nice touches, bit too slow needs pace around him 7 goals laesonns. I think he is a good player. Were now in rhe rlegation zone. Think we have to try some new options. Skuce Elliot we dont score.
marshy Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Fair enough. He is extremely slow. Teddy Sheringham wasn't quick either.
notsobigfatdave Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 He will score for fun in League 1 so will we next season
Andy Horsman Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Probably one of the worse forwards City have ever had. Can you even class him as a striker? Has no pace, strength no nothing. I'll be surprised if he even gets 1 goal during his month spell there. this is a wind up right?? In the last 5-6 years alone, Stewart, Bridges, Savage, Quinn, Smith, John, Maierhofer, Keogh and Agyemang spring to mind as strikers who were worse than Clarky in City's colours
notsobigfatdave Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Pretty obvious who the players who've refused to go out on loan are now, isn't it? No perhaps you will enlighten us all
Keith_Lemon Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 this is a wind up right?? In the last 5-6 years alone, Stewart, Bridges, Savage, Quinn, Smith, John, Maierhofer, Keogh and Agyemang spring to mind as strikers who were worse than Clarky in City's colours Not really, you've made a good list there and Clarkson is easily part of that list. We payed 800k for the lad, for that amount you would hope for a good striker, not great but good. Clarkson's a poor footballer and has done nothing in his career here. The worse point is, last season after playing well for a few games people wanted City to give him a new contract! He was a terrible signing and we will probably only get around 200k for him.
Red-Robbo Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Very reasonable playing behind a front two, but sadly never utilised much in this role. I agree with those who say he is under-rated.
bcfcnick Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 An intelligent player who scores goals and creates assists - just what the team is lacking at the moment. If we are playing one up front then we are crying our for a creative midfielder who can chip in with goals. I said before the start of the season that there weren't enough goals in the side and for that reason alone I'd play Clarkson - probably instead of Kilkenny. Plus team spirit can't be under-estimated and I don't think Kilkenny adds much on that front.
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I'm sorry for having called players "dead fish". No need to apologise Tommy. Worse things happen at sea.
Guest always hoping Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Where have you heard that buddy?? Doesn.t really matter, but it is true and should be considered before people like Graham C, who appears to weald insder knowledge, try to incite negative reactions from the fans. Wish this site spent more time trying to encourage fans and players to succeed and enjoy our time in the Championship. City is a good club, just going through a difficult period. The board will do its best to help the club recover and grow.
Riaz Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Doesn.t really matter, but it is true and should be considered before people like Graham C, who appears to weald insder knowledge, try to incite negative reactions from the fans. Insider knowledge? Millen told is that players turned down loan requests?!
The Bard Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Teddy Sheringham wasn't quick either. I was lucky enough to watch him score 2 of the goals when we took the Dutch to the cleaners in Euro 96. We had a proper side then. Back to Clarkson. The money side of this is largely irrelevant. We'll probably recoup about 4 days worth of Nicky Hunt's wages. In footballing terms, it could be significant should he do well. If we continue to struggle to score, he could well come back and get a place in the squad after his month. We need a player like him in the side.
Pickle Rick Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 He will score for fun in League 1 At least twice a match.
Guest bcfc_Jamie Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 this is a wind up right?? In the last 5-6 years alone, Stewart, Bridges, Savage, Quinn, Smith, John, Maierhofer, Keogh and Agyemang spring to mind as strikers who were worse than Clarky in City's colours From what i've seen, you can add Ryan Taylor to that list too! Or am I being a tad harsh?
BITW Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Hahaha please don't compare sheringham to Clarkson! Wow.
Riaz Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Hahaha please don't compare sheringham to Clarkson! Wow. Thats the type of striker he is. No one is saying he is anywhere near as good.
marshy Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Thats the type of striker he is. No one is saying he is anywhere near as good. Exactly. Taking into account his intermittent appearance record and the number of times he has come off the bench for just a few minutes he has a very respectable goals/assists rate at this level. Perhaps his 'passes completed' stat isn't up to the mark as occasionally he tries something a little different.
TinnionForEngland Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 A very poor player who some suggested was very good, which is why this club will go nowhere if people truly believe things like that.
WhistleHappy Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Not so obvious is the player who had a request for loan turned down by the City? I believe that was D James, it was a reasonable request too - dunno why we turned him down tbh. ...... after all .....he only wanted to borrow a fiver ffs
Adz6794 Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 http://www.stainesguardian.co.uk/sport/9256109.Bees__Clarkson_set_to_make_debut/
Garland-sweden Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Agree with Well Red Phil : "He's excellent in space and is much more effective in the hole or as a midfielder in a 4-3-3 in my opinion. He ran the show in our 4-0 win at Deepdale last season and as he had lots of space in that game was able to dictate play, spraying balls around. He's very weak and slow though so if he's up front unless you can give him the ball when he's in a lot of space, which we evidently don't have the quality to do, he is pointless. Makes sense him going out on loan as he's clearly not in Millen's plans." With a lot of work done on upper body strength he would be good in the Championship. Too easily pushed off the ball as striker. Skilfull player. Why hasn't he been tried in midfield if we can't attract a creative midfielder from elsewhere It worked when he played in the hole.
Mr Gow Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Davie Clarkson good player, very very under rated. In my opinion he could be the player we have been crying out for,a creative midfielder, yep i said it midfielder. Another example of a good player becoming stagnant at Ashton Gate
notsobigfatdave Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Not so obvious is the player who had a request for loan turned down by the City? Quite so...several in fact ...plus a couple of firm offers for more than one of them... I wouldnt mind a wager that several of the players Millen has discarded from his plans would run out of the gate tomorrow if they had a decent loan offer. Its not aquestion of taking a pay cut either as they would still be under contract to City and City would have be obliged to make up the difference in the salary. The club could have offloaded severl of these Players and Maynard earlier in the season but Landsdown played the odds and lost.... All this... "Players refuse to go on Loan" is just a smoke screen to masque the Clubs incompitence IMO...
spudski Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Davie Clarkson good player, very very under rated. In my opinion he could be the player we have been crying out for,a creative midfielder, yep i said it midfielder. Another example of a good player becoming stagnant at Ashton Gate Totally agree... Always good with his back to goal. Would do well imho, just behind a front 2 or playing off one other. Killkenny would benefit from having him as someone to pass to. Holds ball up well and also has a great shot and eye for goal. A goalscoring high midfielder is what we need. Hope he does well at Brenford and comes back to the club on fire.
notsobigfatdave Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Totally agree... Always good with his back to goal. Would do well imho, just behind a front 2 or playing off one other. Killkenny would benefit from having him as someone to pass to. Holds ball up well and also has a great shot and eye for goal. A goalscoring high midfielder is what we need. Hope he does well at Brenford and comes back to the club on fire. I agree... 4 Goals in 2 consecutive reserve matches...cant be more on fire than that...what more can he do.?
Guest Ashton Great Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Funny how Clarkson has suddenly become the missing link. Whenever he has played, most on here are quick to say he's not good enough!
screech Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Funny how Clarkson has suddenly become the missing link. Whenever he has played, most on here are quick to say he's not good enough! Agree with that, he certainly isn't good enought to be played up front but he was a much better player behind the front two in an attacking midfield role. I think that the shame of it all is Millen will force Stead and Pitman onto the left wing when everyone knows it wont work yet, when Clarkson has played in a deeper role he's looked decent he gets dropped again. It happens to a lot of managers, they think they are being very clever by swopping players around and persisting with rank systems to try and prove a point, most recent example is the what once was the untouchable Wenger and his ridiculous youth only policy, it's cost Arsenal valuable players like Nasri and Fabregas to try and prove his point. Managers become stubborn and don't want to seem to do things they are being told, and do all they can to get away from the bleeding obvious. Keiths one of these, so was Johnson. Football is a very very simple game to play, managers confuse players with their (clever) tactics.
Andy082005 Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Clarkson is a decent player, granted....he just is not good enough for the Championship. Many Scottish player these days cross the border, but not to many succeed as the standard of football up there now is League 1 standard down here. David goodwille for example....just moved to Blackburn, I put money on it now he will disappear back to Scotland within 18 months. Talk of playing Clarkson in midfield.....wont work, he isnt a midfie;der by trade, and certainly wouldnt be good enough to play there at this level. Nice idea, but we do not have a creative option good enough in our squad. We can try everyone there....it wont be good enough Good luck to the lad in League 1, think he can do a job down there. The ironic thing is, the way its going....we could be down there next year, and Clarky will be gone on a free transfer
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Clarkson is a decent player, granted....he just is not good enough for the Championship. Many Scottish player these days cross the border, but not to many succeed as the standard of football up there now is League 1 standard down here. David goodwille for example....just moved to Blackburn, I put money on it now he will disappear back to Scotland within 18 months. Talk of playing Clarkson in midfield.....wont work, he isnt a midfie;der by trade, and certainly wouldnt be good enough to play there at this level. Nice idea, but we do not have a creative option good enough in our squad. We can try everyone there....it wont be good enough Good luck to the lad in League 1, think he can do a job down there. The ironic thing is, the way its going....we could be down there next year, and Clarky will be gone on a free transfer Agree with every word, another failed Scots striker in long line of failed strikers who can't cut it south of the border?
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