Ricardo 'Livi' Red Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Yet again confused by Derek. How? Please elaborate. Spot on... Can't understand why Del is getting stick for a guy we've not even signed.. And believe he is the centre half he is looking for.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil78 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 he played over 50 games at center back and says he is comfortable across the whole back four, hes a utility player and would be a good signing, wish people would stop moaning! Please find a quote to back this up, http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/celtic/2011/02/03/i-beat-rangers-in-my-first-shift-at-centre-half-with-celtic-and-i-can-do-it-again-on-sunday-says-mark-wilson-86908-22895836/ You'll see from this link, he admits he's rarely played centre half, and he's not played 50 games since the interview, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Please find a quote to back this up, http://www.dailyreco...86908-22895836/ You'll see from this link, he admits he's rarely played centre half, and he's not played 50 games since the interview, No, but DM is signing him as a centre back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Red Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Or perhaps he is thinking its good to have players that can play in more than 1 position. Let's just say Cunningham gets injured, foster will move over to left back, Wilson plays to right back. You always need cover. We also need more right sided centre backs. I would say Mcinnes knows exactly what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Is this bloke decent? Never heard of him if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Or perhaps he is thinking its good to have players that can play in more than 1 position. Let's just say Cunningham gets injured, foster will move over to left back, Wilson plays to right back. You always need cover. We also need more right sided centre backs. I would say Mcinnes knows exactly what he is doing. Now now, that's looking at things sensibly. None of that to be had on here please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 How do we know Del is signing him as a centre back? Perhaps he's signing him because he's had 2nd thoughts about foster. Or sees Foster as a midfielder. Or wants Wilson to play on midfield. Or up front... I'm not sure how anyone can be 'confused' by Del or declare Wilson a makeshift anything. As of yet, all he's done is get on a plane to Marbella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusseyBCFC Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Or perhaps he is thinking its good to have players that can play in more than 1 position. Let's just say Cunningham gets injured, foster will move over to left back, Wilson plays to right back. You always need cover. We also need more right sided centre backs. I would say Mcinnes knows exactly what he is doing. Thank you sir! Someone speaking some sense on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil78 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Or perhaps he is thinking its good to have players that can play in more than 1 position. Let's just say Cunningham gets injured, foster will move over to left back, Wilson plays to right back. You always need cover. We also need more right sided centre backs. I would say Mcinnes knows exactly what he is doing. Foster, Skuse, James Wilson, Carey, Joe Edwards, all capable of right back - 1 needed per game minimum Cunningham, Fontaine, Foster, Tanga, Bryan, all capable of left side - 1 needed per game minimum Carey, Fontaine, tanga, Wilson - 2 needed minimum Tell me looking at that what is most important? For me someone who is a centre half first and foremost, is what we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Foster, Skuse, James Wilson, Carey, Joe Edwards, all capable of right back - 1 needed per game minimum Cunningham, Fontaine, Foster, Tanga, Bryan, all capable of left side - 1 needed per game minimum Carey, Fontaine, tanga, Wilson - 2 needed minimum Tell me looking at that what is most important? For me someone who is a centre half first and foremost, is what we need Unfortunately, in this business, you dont always get what you want, when you want it. For all we know, McInnes has been trying to sign a centre half all summer. He isn't daft - the fact that we had McManus and Amagou on loan should tell you all you need to know. Maybe, just maybe, he doesn't want to throw the clubs money away? Maybe the players he has spoken to have priced themselves out of a deal? Get a grip man, McInnes is far more aware of what we need than you and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil78 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Unfortunately, in this business, you dont always get what you want, when you want it. For all we know, McInnes has been trying to sign a centre half all summer. He isn't daft - the fact that we had McManus and Amagou on loan should tell you all you need to know. Maybe, just maybe, he doesn't want to throw the clubs money away? Maybe the players he has spoken to have priced themselves out of a deal? Get a grip man, McInnes is far more aware of what we need than you and I. Indeed, understand and agree, however looking at the players we do have, should we be signing another player who declares himself as a right back. To me, it's like he actually is throwing money away on players not needed and is making signings for the sake of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 He may well just be training with us, we have a perfectly competent rightback in foster and Edwards as backup so McInnes probably wont be looking to sign him, and not really a waste of a place ticket which is pennies to the club, he provides good experience and knowledge to the other right backs in the club while he trains with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Foster, Skuse, James Wilson, Carey, Joe Edwards, all capable of right back - 1 needed per game minimum Cunningham, Fontaine, Foster, Tanga, Bryan, all capable of left side - 1 needed per game minimum Carey, Fontaine, tanga, Wilson - 2 needed minimum Tell me looking at that what is most important? For me someone who is a centre half first and foremost, is what we need You're making a lot of conclusions. Maybe he has Wilson in mind for our right-back berth. Just because he's on trial doesn't mean he's all we're looking at. Once again, I'm confused by our support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil78 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 You're making a lot of conclusions. Maybe he has Wilson in mind for our right-back berth. Just because he's on trial doesn't mean he's all we're looking at. Once again, I'm confused by our support. Not making any conclusions, just asking the question that with those defenders available in those positions which would be looking to improve? I've no doubt that Mark Wilson isn't a talented player, just don't see him as a player we need, unless a currently contracted player is set to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Wurzel II Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Surely it's all about improving the squad regardless of who we gave already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Surely it's all about improving the squad regardless of who we gave already. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Horsman Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not making any conclusions, just asking the question that with those defenders available in those positions which would be looking to improve? I've no doubt that Mark Wilson isn't a talented player, just don't see him as a player we need, unless a currently contracted player is set to leave. I agree Phil, and said the same on another thread. We can't have it all ways at once. Many, including the club have stated that he squad was/ is too big, and the wage bill is an ongoing issue, so it makes no sense to sign another utility defender where we have so much cover without departures. Had the club got eg Stewart off the wage bill, then it would make a little more sense, but as it stands we don't need more squad players, we need a first pick, right footed specialist centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I agree Phil, and said the same on another thread. We can't have it all ways at once. Many, including the club have stated that he squad was/ is too big, and the wage bill is an ongoing issue, so it makes no sense to sign another utility defender where we have so much cover without departures. Had the club got eg Stewart off the wage bill, then it would make a little more sense, but as it stands we don't need more squad players, we need a first pick, right footed specialist centre back. Exactly, for the millionth time .... utility players, fine for the Conferenence and Scottish Leagues but in the Championship you get found out if you're not a specialist. Please NO MORE. ... what with delayed key position signings in the summer yet again, does this Club ever learn!!! Another slow start and 'catch up' season beckons, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Exactly, for the millionth time .... utility players, fine for the Conferenence and Scottish Leagues but in the Championship you get found out if you're not a specialist. Please NO MORE. ... what with delayed key position signings in the summer yet again, does this Club ever learn!!! Another slow start and 'catch up' season beckons, Exactly. Like I said earlier in the thread if we sign him and he turns into a world beater I will hold my hands up, but considering we are always struggling to control the wage bill, unless we get rid before I just see it as completely unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Exactly, for the millionth time .... utility players, fine for the Conferenence and Scottish Leagues but in the Championship you get found out if you're not a specialist. Please NO MORE. ... what with delayed key position signings in the summer yet again, does this Club ever learn!!! Another slow start and 'catch up' season beckons, What a crock of shit that is. Someone better tell Alex Ferguson as he likes a utility player or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Wurzel II Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Exactly. Like I said earlier in the thread if we sign him and he turns into a world beater I will hold my hands up, but considering we are always struggling to control the wage bill, unless we get rid before I just see it as completely unnecessary. It would only be unnecessary if he's no better then we already have, and considering our defensive record last year I find that hard to believe, another thing to consider is that we don't know whats going on behind the scenes....who to say we havn't accepted a formal offer for any our current players ? Bottom line IMO is if he improves the defence then get him signed regardless, theres current players who only have 12 months left of their contract (Nyatanga for example) so its like for like in respect of the FPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 'Livi' Red Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Exactly, for the millionth time .... utility players, fine for the Conferenence and Scottish Leagues but in the Championship you get found out if you're not a specialist. Please NO MORE. ... what with delayed key position signings in the summer yet again, does this Club ever learn!!! Another slow start and 'catch up' season beckons, What total drivel... Are you sure you a football supporter or even a City follower... Do you not think Del knows what he needs...? Has he not said it time and time again...? He has a list of players he needs to fill key positions and he won't get EVERY first choice.. But he will get players.. Sometimes a player comes along that will help improve squad and while they may not even sign Wilson, if we do then Del does for a reason... To IMPROVE the squad.. Try and keep up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 FFS - Del is well aware that we need a centre back. If he feels that Wilson could be the solution he s looking for, is interested in joining us and fits within our budgets, then surely that is good enough. It is these types of decisions by which a manager stands or falls. Based on his so far decent track record of signings and getting the best out of players flailing careers, this sounds like a good option. I personally know nothing about Wilson, but i'm sure Del does and if he see's him as a suitable recruit then great! Now we need a quick striker please Del! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrVinta8 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Its just a trial. Wilson is very injury prone! A versatile right back! If we can keep him fit he will be a good signing! But like I said its just a trial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blockbrowt1 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Agree with TRL what a moron. To know that people like this work for BIA is worrying. I would hate to think that my name would be shown on the internet like this from the airport, person needs to sacked. Breach of trust and security. Thinking of complaining to BIA about this makes security there look a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 when was it ever right that info like this can be photoed and posted online. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 FFS - Del is well aware that we need a centre back. If he feels that Wilson could be the solution he s looking for, is interested in joining us and fits within our budgets, then surely that is good enough. It is these types of decisions by which a manager stands or falls. Based on his so far decent track record of signings and getting the best out of players flailing careers, this sounds like a good option. I personally know nothing about Wilson, but i'm sure Del does and if he see's him as a suitable recruit then great! Now we need a quick striker please Del! I don't think his record has been as good as everyone has been making out. Foster and Pearson have been very average. The Cardiff defender Keinen? or whatever his name hardly player, same with Hugo Ephraim. Wood was no where near as good as he was a B'ham, McGivern was very average too. Bikey was a good signing though, can't remember who else has been signed by Del? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydey Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I don't think his record has been as good as everyone has been making out. Foster and Pearson have been very average. The Cardiff defender Keinen? or whatever his name hardly player, same with Hugo Ephraim. Wood was no where near as good as he was a B'ham, McGivern was very average too. Bikey was a good signing though, can't remember who else has been signed by Del? Wasnt Mcgivern signed by Millen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I don't think his record has been as good as everyone has been making out. Foster and Pearson have been very average. The Cardiff defender Keinen? or whatever his name hardly player, same with Hugo Ephraim. Wood was no where near as good as he was a B'ham, McGivern was very average too. Bikey was a good signing though, can't remember who else has been signed by Del? FFS Foster and Pearson were good enough to help get us out of the crap that the totally inept Millen left us in and not forgetting Mcgivern was a Millen signing, Keinen was only ever cover and Wood scored a couple of very important goals, DMC did what he was originally tasked to do keep us up, something that looked increasingly unlikely under Millen and now he needs a season to steady the ship, give the guy a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Wasnt Mcgivern signed by Millen? Yes but the Del kept him on for another 6 months FFS Foster and Pearson were good enough to help get us out of the crap that the totally inept Millen left us in and not forgetting Mcgivern was a Millen signing, Keinen was only ever cover and Wood scored a couple of very important goals, DMC did what he was originally tasked to do keep us up, something that looked increasingly unlikely under Millen and now he needs a season to steady the ship, give the guy a break. His signings were average and done their jobs. Nothing else. Foster has arguably been poor for us. Wood scored a few but was on the bench a lot too. I'm not saying McInnes is a bad manager, I personally think he's good but I'm just saying his signings aren't as amazing as everyone has been saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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