Lack of Action Man Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Personally I reckon there should be 5 a side footy in the Olympics . Futsal would be a good addition or replacement for 11 a side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 But ultimately I don't think any sport, where winning an Olympic gold isn't the biggest achievement, should be involved in the games. In that case you can take away Wiggins' medal then, as winning the Tour de France is the single biggest achievement in his sport. So, I think you're wrong here, sorry fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Great Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 In that case you can take away Wiggins' medal then, as winning the Tour de France is the single biggest achievement in his sport. So, I think you're wrong here, sorry fella. Can't agree with that, the Olympic time trial and the tour de france are very different events. Bit like comparing the 100m sprint with the marathon, they're both running but that's where the comparison ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I don't disagree with everything you've said but the crux of your argument seems to be that because rowers are well spoken and articulate they must be less of a scumbag than a footballer. Perhaps they are more articulate and well spoken because of their public school education? For all you know Mr Rower could beat his wife every night You make a fair point. I obviously don't know if the athletes I've recently seen are scumbags or not although I will fight to the death anyone who besmirches my Jess. However, I'm much preferring understanding the down-to-earth interviews compared with Wazzer f'ing and blinding into a Sky camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night84 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 In that case you can take away Wiggins' medal then, as winning the Tour de France is the single biggest achievement in his sport. So, I think you're wrong here, sorry fella. You're right. Damn. Maybe it comes from the passion of the fans which is still there be it the Tour de France or the Olympics but in in terms of Football I've not felt anything from football fans for the GB team. But then again, maybe that's just international football at any level for England/GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Team GB minus the Team would be better for starters. I mean are we all considered completely dumb by whomever came up with that word? Is it suspected that without that word we might all think its Individual GB? Why is it not Team Germany, or Team China or Team USA? Just dumb. It ought to be 'Team UK' as it includes Northern Ireland (and Isle of Man) members, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers-ran-away Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I dot know why but I just dislike Pearce probably because he turned becks away. Should have chosen giggs becks and scholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 It ought to be 'Team UK' as it includes Northern Ireland (and Isle of Man) members, anyway. Yes i noticed that as soon as the name was announced, i think the purpose was to bring the 'Great' back into Great Britain. Except it isn't even Great Britain is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I totally agree with your impassioned denunciation (rant) of our football elite. In comparison to the British team rowers, cyclists, canoeists, track and fielders and others - that have been hauling in golds after years of genuine hard training and hardship - the footballers are seen for what they really are - overpaid prima donnas. I completely agree with that. But I do think that we could use the Olympics to bridge that gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Can't agree with that, the Olympic time trial and the tour de france are very different events. Bit like comparing the 100m sprint with the marathon, they're both running but that's where the comparison ends. I agree that they are indeed very different, but young Mr Knight said that he perhaps didn't like to see any 'sports' in the olympics where winning gold is not the biggest achievement in that sport. I am 100% of the opinion that the winning the TdF is the biggest achievement in that 'sport'. For what it's worth, I'm just being a picky git! I'm a huge cycling fan and watched Wiggo over the Pyrenees this year which was amazing, and love the fact he's also won the olympic TT. Also, in terms of the general conversation of the thread, yes, footballers are, in the main, a bunch of cocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Great Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I agree that they are indeed very different, but young Mr Knight said that he perhaps didn't like to see any 'sports' in the olympics where winning gold is not the biggest achievement in that sport. I am 100% of the opinion that the winning the TdF is the biggest achievement in that 'sport'. For what it's worth, I'm just being a picky git! I'm a huge cycling fan and watched Wiggo over the Pyrenees this year which was amazing, and love the fact he's also won the olympic TT. Also, in terms of the general conversation of the thread, yes, footballers are, in the main, a bunch of cocks! Certainly can't disagree with your last sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I forgot to ask about Mr Alex Salmond. Does anyone know how he is reacting to the Team "GB" medal success? PS Thanks for the loan of Andy, Sir Chris etc Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Had a bit of a rant last night with on this last night, Olympics Football will always have place, after all it has beem going longer than the world cup and but maybe not in the current forum Firstly women's football, it's impossible to guess how much of an positive effect this will have on the ladies team, it's the first time they have really be shown and give the publically on such a huge stage, 70k plus at wembley and major media coverage has firmly them firmly on the map and given the team the respect they deserve for their performances. As for the men's, it was very much a thrown together team who were expected to instantly gel, us Brits don't respect the competition because simply we've never qualified for it before and unless we improve at u21 level we won't be qualifiying again. south american, african and Asian teams take the competition seriously because it's a rare chance to impress on the world stage as was shown by the squads brought, personally going forward I'd scrap the overage rule, u23's ONLY the likes of Giggs, Bellamy and Richards added nothing and would have been better to keep it as men's under 23 competition. It will be there in Brazil 2016, however unlikely that the GB team will unless we turn around our youth setup You do realise that our absence has never been due to us "not qualifying"? It's because the team hasn't existed for 40 odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night84 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I think it's down to how the public view the struggle of footballers and the struggle of other Olympic athletes. Getting paid anywhere up to £100,000 or more whilst you're playing for team GB is completely foreign and unimaginable for the majority of people competing at the Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Watching the athletes in other sport I admire all the effort they put in training to be the best no detail is left to chance. Then you watch our footballers take penaltys and quite frankly it's a disgrace . Do they try to improve themselves , do they strive to be the best they can , no. Once they get their big contract they don't give a toss. It's totally shameful that they don't practise penaltys , it's like Andy Murray not practising serving or a golfer not practising putting. The GB footballers should look in the mirror and ask themselves did I do everything possible and did I prepare myself to win gold. Do you not think that goalkeepers don't practice saving them? One cancels out the other, so just because we only score 4 out of 5 penalties, it's hardly a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 But the cheats chambers and miller do hey?? Fair point. Personally I am very uncomfortable with Chambers being in the Olympics, too. Millar has admitted he did wrong and not to excuse it, but it was in a time when doping in cycling was rife. I just find the attitude to sport portrayed by the likes of Neymar and Sturridge totally alien to the Olympic ethos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 It ought to be 'Team UK' as it includes Northern Ireland (and Isle of Man) members, anyway. Good point or simply UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 What's happened to 'Team Cuba'?.....they used to dominate the boxing. Certainly is a lean period for Cuba... too many defected, bit like that girl running for Italy in, what was it, the 400 hurdles? She IS Cuban. I think Raul and Co simply think why the heck should we put our athletes through an expensive training program on 4p a month higher salary average with crumbling arena and largely decrepit equipment only to see them defect. Shameful really!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 It is Team USA is it not? Thats where we got the term from and I hate it. Anyway I wouldnt say I cheered the fact that we are out, cus it could of been another medal for GB, but Im not to bothered about it. Was a bit of a joke of a squad, and had a joke of a manager in charge, USA?.. I might have known. marketing crap only I don't quite see the marketing benefit. I am not sure why Scotland or N.Ire did not have any representatives? Was it them simply not allowing it or none of the players accepting the invitation? Or was it Dictator Salmond laying the boot in? It should have been obligatory based on population which means we would have had about 17.5 English, 1.7 Scots, 0.6 Welsh and 0.2 from NI. Wales were massively over-represented and yet they refused to sing the national anthem. Frankly?... we should cast em adrift on.... Flat Holm.. no, sorry, Steep Holm. ..that is, those who do not feel part of the UK. I am done with this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Certainly is a lean period for Cuba... too many defected, bit like that girl running for Italy in, what was it, the 400 hurdles? She IS Cuban. I think Raul and Co simply think why the heck should we put our athletes through an expensive training program on 4p a month higher salary average with crumbling arena and largely decrepit equipment only to see them defect. Shameful really!! Communist Cuba looks to be going the same way as former Communist Russia and East Germany/ West Germany - down the Olympic medals table. We've gone up the medals table due to 'disguised' state funding from the National lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I think It was doomed when we didn't get the SFA on-board, would love to have seen all parts of GB represented. Not impressed with SP, never really looked in control, I dont think was is diplomatic enough when dealing with other managers, media etc and i wonder what role he actually played, other than Psycho. It failed when we took it too seriously, we had nothing to prove and Pearse tried too hard, I knew for sure we were forked when he dropped Becks...what a complete moron, in the spirit of the game and somone who helped bring the games to London, and is also the most famous footballer on Earth, who is from GB, he drops him, on form, ....omg. The more i think about it the more i think SP was a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Pearce should have been assistant manager for the side, had a good knowledge of the youngsters in the side, however should have had the management left to someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Anybody with a sky sports prescription please relinquish it now as effectively you are funding these footballers wages and in turn making Murdochs legacy stronger. The footballer isn't to blame for his weekly wage packet, it's just the way football has become..its now an entertainment industry. Murdoch ceased upon a great business opportunity in the early nineties and the arm chair supporter inevitably succombed. As for assassinating the character of these 'pros'...I'll leave that to the day I ever meet them. Its easy to judge after reading a tabloid rag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Do you not think that goalkeepers don't practice saving them? One cancels out the other, so just because we only score 4 out of 5 penalties, it's hardly a disgrace. Im sure goalkeepers from other countries practice saving penalties not sure about the British ones . Our record (Britain/England) is an absolute disgrace in penalty shot outs and it's a total disgrace that football in this country have not tried address this problem over the decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Any other sport would have a specialised coach for taking pens. Just like in Rugby you have a kicking coach why don't the England/Team Gb have a penalty coach. For to long you have had top coaches claiming that you can't practise pens the all mind set is wrong and this would not happen in other sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Any other sport would have a specialised coach for taking pens. Just like in Rugby you have a kicking coach why don't the England/Team Gb have a penalty coach. For to long you have had top coaches claiming that you can't practise pens the all mind set is wrong and this would not happen in other sports. Get Le Tiss in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Communist Cuba looks to be going the same way as former Communist Russia and East Germany/ West Germany - down the Olympic medals table. We've gone up the medals table due to 'disguised' state funding from the National lottery. Surely national lottery funding is 'privatised' state funding? Last time I checked, no one was forcing anyone to buy a lottery ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Surely national lottery funding is 'privatised' state funding? Last time I checked, no one was forcing anyone to buy a lottery ticket .....'disguised' state funding is what I wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Can't agree with that, the Olympic time trial and the tour de france are very different events. Bit like comparing the 100m sprint with the marathon, they're both running but that's where the comparison ends. In reality it was the Tour de France time trials that won the tour for Wiggins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 .....'disguised' state funding is what I wrote. I know, but I took the inference that you believe lottery funding to be a form of state subsidy. As most of the money comes from individuals buying lottery tickets, I'm pointing out that if it's 'disguised state funding', it is from a privatised source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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