NYTRAM Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I said give him 2 games the 2nd was the improvement with Blackpool. Since we have gone on to get the illusive win. I'm more confident we can climb away front this mess. So lets get behind DMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 If you look at the poll people still want him out and some are giving him until Christmas I just wanted to see the numbers and to hear people's opinions I never made anyone vote or post It wasn't a criticism of the poll, I was just pointing out that actually the fan base isn't as fickle as the impression some have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Seeing as you only see goals flying past keepers on the highlights it's no shock that you have only seen bad. From watching the full ninety minutes you can see he is a very good keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Have't once this season thought he should leave. Also willing to put money on us surviving again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I agree about the loan signings but i believe he has the determination to and patience to sign Bates on to a long term deal and persuade Danns to sign permanently. I believe he has done well to bring players in who are much better than what we had and he has got left back what we have been crying out for since Mcallister become too old and he filled that place superbly with GC. I also dont think that the win ratio reflects his performance as the championship has got considerably tougher since the millen days. As i have said before only 4 teams havent been in the prem in the championship this season Us, Cardiff, Peterbourough and Huddersfield thats 20 other teams who have parachute payments to help them succeed in the championship. No correct my friend. Those payments only go on for three or four years. Forest, Leeds Leicester and Palace are not getting any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 No correct my friend. Those payments only go on for three or four years. Forest, Leeds Leicester and Palace are not getting any. I know how they feel !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Are you quite sure all I've seen are highlights? Nice assumption as per usual. Im glad people are back to deciding what I have and havent watched this season . I dont make noises about what I have and havent seen, as I dont see that it matters as much as some think it does or somehow makes you a better fan as some seem to think. Ive seen enough and that's all Im saying on the matter, save getting drawn into this semi regular circular arguement. However, dont let that get in the way of some one else having a differing and quantified opinion to yourself and then having a load of digs at pretty much everyone because their opinion doesnt match your own. Almost forgot we were live on telly one week weren't we... Watching the game is important. I've never said you were less of a fan mate, just that your constant forming of opinions based in statistics and highlight reels does unquestionably weaken the validity of your opinions. You're basing your opinions on hearsay, if you were a source in an History essay I'd be forced to discredit you before even reading what you said! I'm not making assumptions either, you're on almost all the match day threads rather than at the ate, you base all your comments in statistics and not what you've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Are you quite sure all I've seen are highlights? Nice assumption as per usual. Im glad people are back to deciding what I have and havent watched this season . I dont make noises about what I have and havent seen, as I dont see that it matters as much as some think it does or somehow makes you a better fan as some seem to think. Ive seen enough and that's all Im saying on the matter, save getting drawn into this semi regular circular arguement. However, dont let that get in the way of some one else having a differing and quantified opinion to yourself and then having a load of digs at pretty much everyone because their opinion doesnt match your own. Surely asking Tansley for a defence of his opinion on Pearson then calling it a 'defence of mediocrity' is the definition of "having a load of digs at pretty much everyone because their opinion doesnt match your own"? Living up north I haven't seen us many times this season, but the impression I've got from listening to VARIOUS opinions on here and the games I've seen are that we're suffering from an almost perfect storm of injury, individual loss of form and weakness in key areas. Taking the Hull game as an example (because it was on tv so i watched it), we didn't play well but actually lost to a wonder goal and a incredibly unlucky one. On another day we'd have got a point. Obviously Del has to take responsibility for some of this, but as an optimist I like to focus on what he's improved over the summer from Millen. We have the elusive left back, we can score goals, we have (in my opinion) a decent goal keeper. Central midfield and central defence remain a problem and one that he should have sorted but his reign just hasn't been the omnishambles you keep telling everyone it is. As much as anything, Del needs to stay for stabilitys sake; we've chopped and changed managers so much in recent years that I feel that if 1 of them shows even the remotest bit if promise we should hold on to him, back him up and see where it takes us. Every time we've changed managers it's taken us a little bit closer to relegation and it has to stop I'll be at AG for the first time this season on Saturday and hopefully at Hillsboro the week after. Perhaps this 'city-saturation' may change my opinion but I doubt it. Perhaps after you've watched the next couple of games your opinion may change too RMLF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 results have not relected perfromances this season We should of got somthing against Blackburn, Leeds, Millwall, Forest, Barnsley, Burnley, but dropped points because he's done what the fans wanted and "go for it" instead of defending a leed or going for a point, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 That's my view on the player, rather than a dig at JT? Not sure where you are going with that. Perhaps I perceive it in a different way. What I read was that Jordan offered a number of points to back up his assertion that Pearson has been a decent signing and you ignored most of it and fixated on the section where JT admits to some of Pearson's flaws. That automatically makes his argument look (though not necessarily be) more balanced than yours. Personally, I think that some of your criticisms of Pearson are justified but there seems to be no context to what you're saying. If Pearson didn't have the flaws you point out then he wouldn't be playing for Bristol City. Given his ability to play a number of positions and the fact that he is undoubtedly capable of quality at times, I think he's an entirely appropriate player for us and I don't think there was anyone out there better. You have just as much right to an opinion as anyone else regardless of whether you've watched every minute or not a single one, but as someone who doesn't go often I'm going to choose to believe the chap that says he goes every week, especially as his opinion largely backs up what I've seen myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Perhaps I perceive it in a different way. What I read was that Jordan offered a number of points to back up his assertion that Pearson has been a decent signing and you ignored most of it and fixated on the section where JT admits to some of Pearson's flaws. That automatically makes his argument look (though not necessarily be) more balanced than yours. Personally, I think that some of your criticisms of Pearson are justified but there seems to be no context to what you're saying. If Pearson didn't have the flaws you point out then he wouldn't be playing for Bristol City. Given his ability to play a number of positions and the fact that he is undoubtedly capable of quality at times, I think he's an entirely appropriate player for us and I don't think there was anyone out there better. You have just as much right to an opinion as anyone else regardless of whether you've watched every minute or not a single one, but as someone who doesn't go often I'm going to choose to believe the chap that says he goes every week, especially as his opinion largely backs up what I've seen myself before anyone says danns, he wasn't availabe until last month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'm done with his shit. Taylor on for Davies at 2-0 down. Taylor hasn't scored since August and is up top on his own. Baldock has barely played since his first two weeks here. Great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 this thread just got a bit more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 His record is appalling - enough said. Very surprised he is getting so much support to be honest. Yes, he has bought in a few good players but he has also bought in some poor / average players, Table dont lie - wake up fans or we will be watching 3rd tier footy again for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Still in the give him till Xmas camp, but 9 points from last 16 games is very very poor. Why sign a defender from Liverpool on loan if we aren't going to play him, just a waste of money again. If Carey can't play 2 games in 3 days why was he given a contract, if bates had a tight hamstring that was a quick recovery from Saturday ( still say he didn't want to play against boro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset_Cider Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Once again Nibor - you are a great, articulate poster on here who knows what he is talking about when it comes to BCFC. I believe Mcinnes is a top flight manager in the making (not there yet admittedly, but he will make it) and he will get there with us. I also think Lansdown and the directors are backing him 100% For good reasons. As..... it would seem are a fair proportion of the fans....... kind of feel 'Sod The Directors' for some reason.... blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leepeacock's50phead Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 He'll be gone by the next transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Only 19 people want him out. And that's on a fans forum. There's a very loud minority here, and it doesn't reflect what Bristol City fans, as a group, want or feel. I hope to god nobody involved with the club actually reads this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Still think we will stick and chuck some more money at it in the next window; cannot see SL making any rash decisions after his last statement a few weeks back. Where that takes us is where that takes us. A complete change will cost a bucket load and I cant see it happening even after todays non efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Im almost at the point of not caring. Someone give me some hope please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Only 19 people want him out. And that's on a fans forum. There's a very loud minority here, and it doesn't reflect what Bristol City fans, as a group, want or feel. I hope to god nobody involved with the club actually reads this place. You want him to stay....WHY????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 You cant always get what you want now, sometimes you have to be satisfied with what you have and get what you want later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habberss Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I just want to win a few games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I just want to win a few games! That will be later then :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Turning point for me today. Deciding to play one up front against an exploitable Wolves defence; telling Kilkenny - a man with no defensive abilities - to play just in front of the defence instead of just behind the attack; the constant selection of 'undroppables' Liam Fontaine and Stephen Pearson; bringing in Danny Wilson then leaving him on the bench; leaving Anderson on the bench; bringing Davies on too late. For all this and more it's a McInnes OOT now for me. He isn't learning and this so-called coaching revolution at AG has made players like Fontaine and Elliott actually go backwards. We have a side who can neither take or defend corners and free kicks and can't even do the basics, like communicate with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennHumphrys1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Only 19 people want him out. And that's on a fans forum. There's a very loud minority here, and it doesn't reflect what Bristol City fans, as a group, want or feel. I hope to god nobody involved with the club actually reads this place. I think its a very loud majority now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is up.... Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Turning point for me today. Deciding to play one up front against an exploitable Wolves defence; telling Kilkenny - a man with no defensive abilities - to play just in front of the defence instead of just behind the attack; the constant selection of 'undroppables' Liam Fontaine and Stephen Pearson; bringing in Danny Wilson then leaving him on the bench; leaving Anderson on the bench; bringing Davies on too late. For all this and more it's a McInnes OOT now for me. He isn't learning and this so-called coaching revolution at AG has made players like Fontaine and Elliott actually go backwards. We have a side who can neither take or defend corners and free kicks and can't even do the basics, like communicate with each other. Feel exactly the same - today was tipping point for me too - for all the reasons you have said above . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Really what needs to happen is for him to offer his resignation, he needs to know if the board still support him and then take it from there. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Pepper Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I think its a very loud majority now. Really? Have you seen the poll results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 For the first time in 30 years of watching I walked before half time. The. 3rd goal went in and was dumbstruck at how the entire defence just watched him. You could see after the 1st goal went in that the players though bollocks I'll go through the motions and not bother. I lasted a bit longer than the players but couldn't believe the capitulation at the end of the half so went home. There is no cohesion in the team, no plan, no stability and I'm sorry to say at this stage no hope. For that reason he needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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