leetrundlesrightfoot2 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 After Charlton? I heard Stead confronted him in the changing room- shame we dont have 11 players who share the passion of Stead- who has only scored 1 this season, but was fantastic yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 But hes dropped frontaine as captain and benched him, thats 1 mistake hes learned from, hes playing Paul Anderson, thats mistake 2 learned from, hes playing Baldock more, thats mistake 3 learned, hes also decided on a system of play, thats mistake 4 learned... you cant say hes not learning, slowly, but he is starting to learn from his mistakes which will make him a better manager and us more successful. Wait and see where we are after january. He has to start with the same line up at Millwall ( if there are no hidden injuries) He has to learn not to change a winning team and give the players their confidence back. Let other teams do the worrying about us Del, stop fiddling with the team, you should know your best line up by now. Only you can get yourself sacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fonts has been one of our best defenders over the years, a key member of the promotion team and also the one that reached the play-off final. He should have been rested by the manager when his form dipped this season, it's not his fault he's been played every week. I fully expect him to come back an improved player after a few weeks off. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OfficiallyRed+ Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He has to start with the same line up at Millwall ( if there are no hidden injuries) He has to learn not to change a winning team and give the players their confidence back. Let other teams do the worrying about us Del, stop fiddling with the team, you should know your best line up by now. Only you can get yourself sacked! I agree, that is 1 of his weaknesses that he needs to iron out, lets wait and see what the line up is against Millwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He has to start with the same line up at Millwall ( if there are no hidden injuries) He has to learn not to change a winning team and give the players their confidence back. Let other teams do the worrying about us Del, stop fiddling with the team, you should know your best line up by now. Only you can get yourself sacked! I think you will find the last two away wins were followed up by an unchanged team, and a home defeat. Keeping an unchanged team just because you have won isn't always the way to go. You should keep the core of the side the same, but adjust tactics, and therefore, maybe, a couple of players to counter the opposition, especially away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He has to start with the same line up at Millwall ( if there are no hidden injuries) He has to learn not to change a winning team and give the players their confidence back. Let other teams do the worrying about us Del, stop fiddling with the team, you should know your best line up by now. Only you can get yourself sacked! He doesn't have to do either of those things, just because you feel that. With the greatest respect, I'm not convinced he has to learn anything from you. Different opposition sometimes demands different tactics/personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Would be interesting to know who these dressing room sources are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Would be interesting to know who these dressing room sources are. They don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He doesn't have to do either of those things, just because you feel that. With the greatest respect, I'm not convinced he has to learn anything from you. Different opposition sometimes demands different tactics/personnel. There's an element of truth in that but I've felt for long time that McInnes puts too much emphasis on the opposition. He has changed tactics/formations far too many times in an effort to counter what the other team may/may not do. Obviously with injuries changes are sometimes enforced but I'd rather City let the opposition worry about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He doesn't have to do either of those things, just because you feel that. With the greatest respect, I'm not convinced he has to learn anything from you. Different opposition sometimes demands different tactics/personnel. and that my friend is where he is going wrong, he enjoys trying different formations with what ever players, and where are we in the table??? Playing to stop a teams strengths takes our strength away from us that has been proved on so many occaisions this season. He might not learn from ME, but sooner or later he better from someone or bye bye. As i said play a winning team with the least amount of changes, let others worry about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 After Charlton? so come on then....what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 There's an element of truth in that but I've felt for long time that McInnes puts too much emphasis on the opposition. He has changed tactics/formations far too many times in an effort to counter what the other team may/may not do. Obviously with injuries changes are sometimes enforced but I'd rather City let the opposition worry about us. So would I, if we had the quality of player like Chelski for example, but unfortunately we don't. So at the moment I think it somewhat naive to use that oft quoted expression. It's the same as "always pick your best players", "never change a winning team" etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 So would I, if we had the quality of player like Chelski for example, but unfortunately we don't. So at the moment I think it somewhat naive to use that oft quoted expression. It's the same as "always pick your best players", "never change a winning team" etc etc. We have quality, but unfortunately the stuffing has been kicked out of most of them, by a manager who is a trainee. Sorry i would always play my best players if they were getting results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 so come on then....what happened? Yes, come on someone, make something up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 so come on then....what happened? You tell me! That's what I am asking... If I right in thinking, the reason people probably 'know' about this 'incident' is because there was a thread on this very forum suggesting that Fonts had a bust up with Stead after the match.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He has to start with the same line up at Millwall ( if there are no hidden injuries) He has to learn not to change a winning team and give the players their confidence back. Let other teams do the worrying about us Del, stop fiddling with the team, you should know your best line up by now. Only you can get yourself sacked! I can see Davies up top with Stead as Baldock played 90 mins and ran his socks off, with 2 days rest I dont mins him changing the squad as long as thwy are the same tactics a fresh squad will be better. More Pace. More Stamina. Mentally Stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 You tell me! That's what I am asking... If I right in thinking, the reason people probably 'know' about this 'incident' is because there was a thread on this very forum suggesting that Fonts had a bust up with Stead after the match.... Stead wanted to call in at Waitrose on the way home to get some flowers for his wife, but Fontaine wanted to go straight home to see his kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I can see Davies up top with Stead as Baldock played 90 mins and ran his socks off, with 2 days rest I dont mins him changing the squad as long as thwy are the same tactics a fresh squad will be better. More Pace. More Stamina. Mentally Stronger. Don't forget we're one game fresher than 'wall so we could keep the same team, with Bryan in for Ricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Alledgedly, thats one of the negatives aimed at SOD which contributed to his sacking - it really pisses off the players as it shows no trust in them. McInnes does appear to put a lot of emphasis on how the opposition play and how we can negate it and its a big part of his pre and post match interviews. It seems a "don't lose" approach to me which is probably what is required at this time. Lets face it, we don't have enough players with the right attitude (bloodyminded and guts) to press our own game (whatever that is) on the opposition. There are few surprises in the Championship. Teams know each other well with scouts and of course TV. That said,its only professional to do the proper homework on the opposition. Its helpful to know who their best players are, what style they like to play, weakness's and strengths but at the same time it can do more harm than good if the manager puts too much emphasis on them. It can make the opposition sound like world beaters and inadvertently have a negative effect on your own players. It can also give your own players the impression that you don't trust them to counter the opposition. Its crucial that your players are encouraged to make the most of their own strengths and talents. I wonder if McInnes does actually do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 We have quality, but unfortunately the stuffing has been kicked out of most of them, by a manager who is a trainee. Sorry i would always play my best players if they were getting results. Everybody would pick THEIR best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fontaine has struggled for form thats all. Nothing 'disgraceful' about it. It happens to all players and if his attitude has become questionable loss of form might be behind it. I agree that he should have lost his place several games ago but that's down to McInnes. Fontaine doesn't deserve all the spiteful abuse. Finally some sense on this issue, well said. The abuse Fontaine has received after serving this Club well for 6/7 years has been nothing short of disgraceful. He's been very poor this season and should've been dropped, but why does that mean his attitude's appalling? If I play 90 mins at CB for the Club and I'm shit is my attitude appalling as well? Some of the comments regarding Fonts as a person have been shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 There are few surprises in the Championship. Teams know each other well with scouts and of course TV. That said,its only professional to do the proper homework on the opposition. Its helpful to know who their best players are, what style they like to play, weakness's and strengths but at the same time it can do more harm than good if the manager puts too much emphasis on them. It can make the opposition sound like world beaters and inadvertently have a negative effect on your own players. It can also give your own players the impression that you don't trust them to counter the opposition. Its crucial that your players are encouraged to make the most of their own strengths and talents. I wonder if McInnes does actually do that?It down to players isn't it. Whatever tactics we've been employing to counter the sides really haven't been working. Work hard. Defend when we don't have the ball. Show when we do. Move the ball forward quickly.Its no coincidence that our form is improving with Bates and Danns in the side. God help us for a midfield when Danns goes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Yes, come on someone, make something up..... Just then, a giant hedgehog burst through the door, shouting "MY NAME IS SPINY NORMAN!" Fontaine fainted, while Stead asked "didn't you use to play for Luton?" After that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is up.... Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in D:\www\otib.co.uk\ips_kernel\classDbMysqlClient.php on line 189Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in D:\www\otib.co.uk\admin_17684316416513465478946\sources\base\ipsRegistry.php on line 216 I heard Stead confronted him in the changing room- shame we dont have 11 players who share the passion of Stead- who has only scored 1 this season, but was fantastic yesterday. Stead fantastic yesterday?? Oh forgot cos he" tries" he is brilliant? He won 1 header all afternoon , has no pace and is a centre halves dream- absolutely no threat whatsoever - shouldnt be on the bench let alone playing. Just my view..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fonts is dropped we win...all we need to know. What hundreds have been saying for months has happened.. lets be thankful it finally has. Onwards and upwards without him is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Yes, come on someone, make something up..... People also said nothing happened at Plymouth too and that some were making it up. Or at training between Trundle and Johnson. Dressing room bust ups do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Never change a winning team is a load of bollocks. Can you imagine the carnage Wood, Henderson and Keogh will cause Greg if he plays centre back? Greg was fine against P'boro, with no target men but Millwall will rip him a new one. Like wise Stead will be far too weak for Shittu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 wood is no longer at millwall. but yes, henderson has always spelt bad luck for us. we need to keep him quiet somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Never change a winning team is a load of bollocks. Can you imagine the carnage Wood, Henderson and Keogh will cause Greg if he plays centre back? Greg was fine against P'boro, with no target men but Millwall will rip him a new one. quote] Wood was recalled from his loan last week to enable him to complete his move to Leicester. The point otherwise reamins though, certainly in the case of Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in D:\www\otib.co.uk\ips_kernel\classDbMysqlClient.php on line 189Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in D:\www\otib.co.uk\admin_17684316416513465478946\sources\base\ipsRegistry.php on line 216 Stead fantastic yesterday?? Oh forgot cos he" tries" he is brilliant? He won 1 header all afternoon , has no pace and is a centre halves dream- absolutely no threat whatsoever - shouldnt be on the bench let alone playing. Just my view..... You are of course totally wrong, but that's hardly surprising as you can't see F all from Florida. I pity the dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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