Lichfield eastend Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 As we all know with our Wembley appearances they all come out the woodwork and we could easy sell 45-50k, the top games ( if and when we get to the prem ) ie manure chelski etc would definately sell out with a 26 k stadium the rest would be fairly full everygame . If we think realistically season ticket holders would probebly be 18k club members buying tickets 1st would cover the other 8 k so the majority to miss out would be the ones who come out the woodwork for big games only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton1 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 So is 26k big enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 The premiership has become such a huge product now compared to then and I dare say there wern't half as many Man utd/man city/liverpool/chelsea/spurs supporters floating around bristol and the surrounding areas. These are all the sort of extra fans who would come and watch City if they were in the top flight. Sadly they'd come to AG, but only to cheer on their current favourite established Prem team. A few years ago when City were still in League 1, I was asked by a 14 year old who i supported to which I replied Bristol City. A few moments of concentrated thought and then "Are they in the Premiership"? This kid could not believe anyone supported a non Premiership team. That is the problem of the 72 teams in the Football League. As for crowd size, Wigan have survived in the Prem for some years with low attendances compared to their rivals. Stoke usually have 26 - 27k for their home games and are currently 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I would say yes for this league. but would need to be expanded in the league above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield eastend Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 26k@AG would maintain current fan base covering st holders club members ex pats coming back for odd games plus obviously the corporate numbers allocated with in the stadium . But 30k rising to 40k at AV would Help the fan base grow which is what would be needed to sustain growth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'm not in the office so don't have the exact stats to hand, but from memory average attendance in first season in div 1 was approx 24.5k, falling to approx 20.5k the season we went down. Season we dropped to div 4, average was 4,700! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Sadly they'd come to AG, but only to cheer on their current favourite established Prem team. A few years ago when City were still in League 1, I was asked by a 14 year old who i supported to which I replied Bristol City. A few moments of concentrated thought and then "Are they in the Premiership"? This kid could not believe anyone supported a non Premiership team. That is the problem of the 72 teams in the Football League. It is a problem around here I agree. But the only way that is ever going to change is if we established ourselves in the prem for a good amount of time. And when/if we managed to do that I feel we would need alot more than 26000. Youve only got to look at attendences in this league we more a less get 13000 most weeks. In league one i remember it being 10000 most weeks. Thats with us being a poor team. When playing well in this leage we get 16000 most games. Floating supporters can gradually become regular supporters with sustained league standings. I think this would be the case with a lot of Man utd/liverpool.....etc supporters IF we got to the prem. But as I cant see that happening for a while 26000 will be fine in this league. (Those Figures arn't factual and probably not accurate but you get the gist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'm not in the office so don't have the exact stats to hand, but from memory average attendance in first season in div 1 was approx 24.5k, falling to approx 20.5k the season we went down. Season we dropped to div 4, average was 4,700! Not far off, Dave. http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm 76/77 23,522 77/78 23,357 78/79 22,306 79/80 18,932 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Sorry with last post, fricking phone! Was tying to say was that 31k a one off ? Definately not. I've been to many games with in excess of that. The atmosphere was always amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Had a look through this before in some Bristol city record books (a complete record) Stats on league games.. The average appears to be 22k with a few 23-24k games but mostly popular were big games, with big names ie; liverpool, man utd, spurs, man city, wba (first season in the top flight) in 1976-77 out of the 21 home games 8 games peaked over 25k In 1977-78 out of 21 home games again 8 games peaked over 25k In 1978-79 out of 21 home games 7 games peaked over 25k 1979-80 out of 21 home games 3 games peaked over 25k 1980-81 out of 21 home games city failed to get anywhere near 20k let alone 25k 1981-82 out of 21 home games city failed to get anywhere near 15k let alone 25k The promotion season to the top flight the average gate was around 12k which surprised me. 1937-38 a gate of 38,066 seen city at home lose 1-0 to cardiff The best time for gates at Ashton gate was 1955 to 1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Definately not. I've been to many games with in excess of that. The atmosphere was always amazing Certainly was a fantastic atmosphere, but crowds over 31k were few and far between. Maybe 6- 8 games max. out of 84 home league 1 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czedred Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Certainly was a fantastic atmosphere, but crowds over 31k were few and far between. Maybe 6- 8 games max. out of 84 home league 1 games? In fact only 3 surprisingly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Had a look through this before in some Bristol city record books (a complete record) Stats on league games.. The average appears to be 22k with a few 23-24k games but mostly popular were big games, with big names ie; liverpool, man utd, spurs, man city, wba (first season in the top flight) in 1976-77 out of the 21 home games 8 games peaked over 25k In 1977-78 out of 21 home games again 8 games peaked over 25k In 1978-79 out of 21 home games 7 games peaked over 25k 1979-80 out of 21 home games 3 games peaked over 25k 1980-81 out of 21 home games city failed to get anywhere near 20k let alone 25k 1981-82 out of 21 home games city failed to get anywhere near 15k let alone 25k The promotion season to the top flight the average gate was around 12k which surprised me. 1937-38 a gate of 38,066 seen city at home lose 1-0 to cardiff The best time for gates at Ashton gate was 1955 to 1960 Promotion season average was 16,204. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo1 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Had a look through this before in some Bristol city record books (a complete record) Stats on league games.. The average appears to be 22k with a few 23-24k games but mostly popular were big games, with big names ie; liverpool, man utd, spurs, man city, wba (first season in the top flight) in 1976-77 out of the 21 home games 8 games peaked over 25k In 1977-78 out of 21 home games again 8 games peaked over 25k In 1978-79 out of 21 home games 7 games peaked over 25k 1979-80 out of 21 home games 3 games peaked over 25k 1980-81 out of 21 home games city failed to get anywhere near 20k let alone 25k 1981-82 out of 21 home games city failed to get anywhere near 15k let alone 25k The promotion season to the top flight the average gate was around 12k which surprised me. 1937-38 a gate of 38,066 seen city at home lose 1-0 to cardiff The best time for gates at Ashton gate was 1955 to 1960 Funny that, 1955 the first year I attended and 1960 the year as a 13 year old I started my illustrious 40 year career in amatuer football in the Boys Club League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Promotion season average was 16,204. Ah yes typo there oops, some good home gates 75-76 season home league games Bolton 10,510 Sunderland 12,199 Bristol Rovers 17,940 Oxford 10,373 Blackpool 10,246 Charlton 12,659 West brom 19,133 Orient 14,553 York 11,228 Carlisle 12,446 Hull 10,361 Plymouth 21,471 Blackburn 12,168 Southampton 22,316 Forest 15,302 Oldham 14,631 Luton 15,872 Fulham 19,546 Chelsea 25,319 Portsmouth 27,394 Notts county 24,614 League Cup West ham Away 19,837 West ham Home 19,849 FA Cup Coventry Away 15,653 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Do you think the redevelopment will move the away fans back to the parkend ?? Yes. That's the idea I think. Was on the OS saying that they will put the away fans in the left hand corner. So like the old days really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHRIDGE BCFC Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Reading those attendances shows how apathetic Bristol is when it comes to football. On the night City got promoted to the top flight in '76,Everton were home in Div 1 in front of 16k,Newcastle at home in front of 14k. You would hardly have those two teams fans down as apathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I wonder how many had season tickets back then? Certainly turning up on the day nowadays for both adults and kids is very off putting. Back then potd prices were very affordable. I would not expect with the current potd prices we would match the attendances back in the 70's and 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Ah yes typo there oops, some good home gates 75-76 season home league games Bolton 10,510 Sunderland 12,199 Bristol Rovers 17,940 Oxford 10,373 Blackpool 10,246 Charlton 12,659 West brom 19,133 Orient 14,553 York 11,228 Carlisle 12,446 Hull 10,361 Plymouth 21,471 Blackburn 12,168 Southampton 22,316 Forest 15,302 Oldham 14,631 Luton 15,872 Fulham 19,546 Chelsea 25,319 Portsmouth 27,394 Notts county 24,614 League Cup West ham Away 19,837 West ham Home 19,849 FA Cup Coventry Away 15,653 Only game i missed that season was Sunderland away, night match, 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I remember we played Liverpool at home in 1977 and the crowd was around 38,700 - happy days and great memories! Yeh, the day the Scouse scallwags tried sneaking into the East End and got hammered by Feeney's mob. The East End was crammed - hundreds got in without tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Some games were well over 30k. The East-End was like a pressurised sardine can, as was the Park End. Terrace in front of the Williams also full as was the Dolman standing area. People sitting on walls,the dug out and in the away end. Bloody brilliant. And if it kicked off - well, what an atmosphere in AG when the game started - don't go all loony lefty chaps - all of us who were there remember how fired up and aggressive AG was when the 'big-boys' came to the East End and copped a beating. 90 minutes of the angriest passionate support you could imagine. Brilliant. ......& all that atmosphere was because you could stand up. It's got to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Merging this with the rugby club posts; in the 1950s floodlit rugby was tried at AG and crowds in excess of 20,000 turned up every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1970 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Can anyone help with exact attendances for our games whilst in the top flight? Still hearing people moan that the re-build will only give us 26k! I'm not sure we would fill that week on week even in the prem! I remember being crammed in the East End on a Monday night 16th May 1977, we beat Liverpool 2-1 and I think Garland got one, attendance 38,688. Liverpool thugs throwing bottles into the East End from the car park. All kicked off after in the park, oh happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Bristol City v Liverpool, 15 April 1978 Score 1-1 Competition League Division One Attendance 31,471 I was there Me too. My abiding memory is of the scousers jumping on the roofs of various unlucky people's cars in the car-park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebeard Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 A mate and I were seriously considering getting a cheap advance season ticket for the east end in your 'nearly' season and we're both gas. I can't remember the amount but it was a bargain for premiership football. We'd watch the big teams and let city supporting mates use our tickets for the wigans and stokes. Glad we didn't bother for obvious reasons. My point though is that there would be enough hard core and casual support to comfortably fill a 26k capacity stadium should either Bristol club get to the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think the question is more like "how much ££ per ticket will be needed at 26k capacity to keep club afloat" .............. A lot more than at 30k or 40k for sure ..........But not as much as it will be if it remains at present 19k... Still ....not worth wasting time discussing Plan B..........is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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